Beer made me do it.

[EUBanana]

[:D]

[AmiralLaurent]

[:'(][:D][:D][:D]

[tabpub]

Bah, I can't compete with Mog and his designer screens....[:@]
All I can do is present the facts....

Not a whole lot of action today. A 2 DD ASW TF was busy searching for a Glen sub off LA today; in 3 separate actions the following happened:
1. Nothing found
2. Found him one DD dropped and missed
3. Sub shot, missed and was unlocated by DD's.

Meanwhile, at Sitka I., low level intruders penetrate IJN airspace to deliver some calling cards to the current residents during the current snowstorm:

01/16/42
Day Air attack on Sitka Island , at 122,31
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 9
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
CL Katori, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Saiho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Sanuki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
=============================================
And in the open ocean, this is seen by naval air out of the West Coast:

[mogami]

Hi, The great cat herd moving east (286,729 troops embarked not counting units still to load at Kodiak, Sitka and Midway)

[AmiralLaurent]

You're a little short on supplies, are you ? You probably plan to feed your troops with cheeseburgers and soda after the landing...

[Capt. Harlock]

You probably plan to feed your troops with cheeseburgers and soda after the landing...

Nah. Mog will loot Chinatown for the rice!

[mogami]

Hi, No there are TF of AK loaded only with supply. The screen shot is only troop transport TF. Kodiak had over 100k unloaded. Sitka has 100k being unloaded and still several large TF of supply remain at sea.

[Andy Mac]

This is going to be very difficult partly because I am guessing the allies wont have sent all non west coast units to the frontline ASAP after PH attack

So the US will have more forces in SF than a normal PBEM would have at this stage air ground and sea.

I think its probably impossible with only 300k men for that reason alone.

Be interesting to find out though

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

This is going to be very difficult partly because I am guessing the allies wont have sent all non west coast units to the frontline ASAP after PH attack

So the US will have more forces in SF than a normal PBEM would have at this stage air ground and sea.

I think its probably impossible with only 300k men for that reason alone.

Be interesting to find out though

I was thinking that too, that because Tabpub knows Mogs intentions already, it's not all that fair a scenario.

But then, thinking about it, Mog's had to strip every other operation to pull this off, so an Allied player would probably work it out pretty fast anyway...

[tabpub]

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

This is going to be very difficult partly because I am guessing the allies wont have sent all non west coast units to the frontline ASAP after PH attack

So the US will have more forces in SF than a normal PBEM would have at this stage air ground and sea.

I think its probably impossible with only 300k men for that reason alone.

Be interesting to find out though

I was thinking that too, that because Tabpub knows Mogs intentions already, it's not all that fair a scenario.

But then, thinking about it, Mog's had to strip every other operation to pull this off, so an Allied player would probably work it out pretty fast anyway...

Hey, he proposed it....in fact when he proposed it, one of the first things out of my mouth was "yeah, it might work if you find an 8 year old or something like that to play". So, a few more beers later, I turned into the 8 year old in question....actually, this is a NO WIN situation for me; if I win, of course I should have won. And (God forbid) if I lose .....TABPUB
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Regarding troops/planes, none of the units left for the Pacific (not that there are that many of note by the middle of January) and some of the Anchorage troops left on AK's the day the Combined Fleet showed up in the Aleutians. But supply convoys have been going to PH since the beginning with no loss that I can recall. With no attacks of note on the DEI anymore, subs from the Asiatic have been tasked with SLOC operations.
Here was the latest CR for those interested; main events were another sunken I Boat and LBA from Seattle see their first action:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/20/42

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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 7000 feet
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Sub attack at 143,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-10

Allied Ships
AVD Ballard
DD Fox

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Day Air attack on Aparri , at 46,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Sitka Island at 122,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sitka Island at 122,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 130,42


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 33
B-17E Fortress x 32


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CL Yubari
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 1
CA Kako, Bomb hits 1
CL Tatsuta
DD Asashio
CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 1
DD Ikazuchi

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 122,32


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
ML Naryu

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Sitka Island at 122,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 127,40

Japanese Ships
AP Nissen Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

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ASW attack at 136,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-8, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DMS Zane
DMS Hopkins
DD Crane
DD Allen

[tabpub]

Today the Japanese forces moved closer to the coast today; apparently toward the Northwest and Prince Rupert. No sign of naval air cover was evident during the attacks. Expect enemy troops to land at PR either tomorrow or day after. Elsewhere in the Pacific all is quiet; the entire attention of the nation is drawn to about 1,000,000 square miles of the NE Pacific and the impending escalation of the conflict.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/21/42

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TF 7 encounters mine field at Prince Rupert (127,33)

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuyuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

The day starts off with this; Silversides’ mines pay off, probably better than any torpedo attack would at this stage of the fight and less risk.
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Day Air attack on TF at 129,39


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 4
B-17E Fortress x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kamo Maru
PC Ch 7
AP Ume Maru
PC Ch 9
AP Astuga Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Satsuma Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported

Some transports stray into Seattle/Vancouver air coverage…
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Day Air attack on TF at 124,35


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 4


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
A flight of mediums out of Prince Rupert strike Aoba with 1000 lbr’s; their experience from prior action shows here. Didn’t notice any secondary explosions, but she looked staggered by the hits to me….--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Prince Rupert at 127,33


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 129,39


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 19
P-40E Warhawk x 32
B-18A Bolo x 37
B-25C Mitchell x 26
B-17E Fortress x 25


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #3
AP Tatsujin Maru, Bomb hits 1
APD APD-38
AP Tarushima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Toyo Maru #2
AP Haisho Maru
APD APD-39
AP Yamakisan Maru
AP Ueizuru Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kikuryu Maru
AP Meikai Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #2
PC Shonan Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yamafuku Maru
AP Tientsin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Imizu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Tama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Ujigawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Over 80 bombers; around 11 hits. Not bad, but have to improve on this in the near future.
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Day Air attack on TF at 130,38


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Hakuyo Maru
AP Atuta Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 129,39


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nissen Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Anchorage , at 111,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-15 Babs: 1 destroyed


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Day Air attack on TF at 127,38


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AO Hayamoto

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
Dang, missed a fleet tanker here….
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Day Air attack on TF at 123,35


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Wakatake, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Prince Rupert, at 127,33 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami, Shell hits 3
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
344 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 4

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 30
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 10

[Capt. Harlock]

Over 80 bombers; around 11 hits. Not bad, but have to improve on this in the near future.

Well, you can't expect many hits on ships under way from B-17's. For that matter, the Bolos aren't nearly as good as the Mitchells. Now, if you could just get Churchill to order some Beauforts to the area. . .

[tabpub]

Sorry for the cut and paste here, but I should have been out the door 10 minutes ago.
LBA spanks some more AK fanny has they are hustling to the NW toward Rupert, which got plastered by 1/2 the IJN surface force today. And near Anchorage, a PT sallies forth and night intercepts a IJN force that included an AD and AR; sinks a MSW and dies like Butch Cassidy.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/22/42

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Night Time Surface Combat at 114,32

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
MSW W.5
MSW Takashima Maru
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Tokuho Maru #5
PG Saga
PG Uji
PG Akitsu Maru
PG Chohakusan Maru
PC Kyo Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #11
AR Akashi
AD AD-3162

Allied Ships
PT PT-39, Shell hits 26, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Prince Rupert, at 127,33


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko


Allied ground losses:
237 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 28
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 7

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Prince Rupert, at 127,33


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Asagiri
DD Ayanami
DD Shikinami
DD Uranami
CL Jintsu
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
313 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 20
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Prince Rupert, at 127,33


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Amagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Sagiri
CL Isuzu
BB Hyuga
BB Ise


Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 21
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 3

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Day Air attack on TF at 128,37


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 45
B-17E Fortress x 27


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiran Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Santos Maru
AP Tenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Tatsuho Maru
AP Meikai Maru
AP Tohuku Maru
AP Ume Maru
AP Meiyo Maru
AP Matsukawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Ryujo Maru
PG Sozan Maru
AP Kisogawa Maru
AP Enju Maru
AP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Teiyo Maru
AP Koan Maru
AP Horai Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Zyuyo Maru
AP Hawaii Maru

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
1 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 128,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Kyosai, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
ML Wakatake

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 128,37


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Igasa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 128,37


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 39
B-17E Fortress x 22


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Keisho Maru
AP Yamato Maru
AP Nachisan Maru
AP Nissen Maru #2
AP Heiwa Maru
AP Fukusei Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Ueizuru Maru
AP Miyadono Maru
AP Meiko Maru
AP Tensyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Tenyo Maru
AP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Huso Maru
AP Hawaii Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Tohuku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 128,37


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru
APD APD-38

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet

[Capt. Harlock]

Hmmm. If taking Prince Rupert is causing this much damage to Japanese shipping, an invasion of Frisco might not leave Mogami with enough to support the Japanese economy!

[AmiralLaurent]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Hmmm. If taking Prince Rupert is causing this much damage to Japanese shipping, an invasion of Frisco might not leave Mogami with enough to support the Japanese economy!

If Mog takes SF, the Japanese economy main spot will become California... By the way as he is not invading any oil/ressource base Japan economy has 6 months to live... and needs no shipping at all...

[tabpub]

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Hmmm. If taking Prince Rupert is causing this much damage to Japanese shipping, an invasion of Frisco might not leave Mogami with enough to support the Japanese economy!

If Mog takes SF, the Japanese economy main spot will become California... By the way as he is not invading any oil/ressource base Japan economy has 6 months to live... and needs no shipping at all...

Re: California, just about 40 years earlier...I heard he has plans to build the Nakatomi Building after landing.....[;)]

I think, would need the other side to confirm/deny, that the air raids on the transports were either negligence on his part or the result of getting cold feet on a stab at Puget Sound area. Personally, I can't think of any reason to take the course he did with them if the ultimate goal was the PR base. With the amount of TF's in one area that he is running, I wouldn't be surprised at a bit of confusion; he did compare it to "herding cats" earlier.
Landings at PR have commenced; the base forces here get the word to "bug out" and head for higher ground. Some mine hits on 2-3 ships as I recall; so you know what my sub fleet has been up to for the last week or two.

I have compiled a listing of the LCU's that will be released to active duty upon the IJA's crossing of the "border". Will be doing one for the LBA next; if you would like either/both, PM me and I will email it out. I know that I could post it, as all anyone has to do is fire up the scen 15, and they can figure out pretty closely what is where and when, but I don't want to make anyones job easier....plus, it doesn't blow the suspense for those that don't want to know.

To AL: You mentioned the RR hex between Vancouver and Seattle in an earlier posting. I went and had my people look it over and it is marked as a land hex, not coastal? Were you thinking of something different, or from a different map edition or something?
Not that it matters, in that Mogami has (to my knowledge) always disdained landing at a non-base hex as not being correct and the fact that there would be little or no way to cover effectively against this type of landing.

[Speedysteve]

Re: California, just about 40 years earlier...I heard he has plans to build the Nakatomi Building after landing

Simple. Call 1-800 John McClane

[:D]

[AmiralLaurent]

ORIGINAL: tabpub

To AL: You mentioned the RR hex between Vancouver and Seattle in an earlier posting. I went and had my people look it over and it is marked as a land hex, not coastal? Were you thinking of something different, or from a different map edition or something?
Not that it matters, in that Mogami has (to my knowledge) always disdained landing at a non-base hex as not being correct and the fact that there would be little or no way to cover effectively against this type of landing.

Well, I had not the map under the eyes and thought there were some possible landing sites outside cities but I was wrong. Only coastal hexes with rail are one between Anchorage and Juneau, roughly in the middle, and one in south of California.

As for defending open terrain hexes, yes WITP is not good for that. I have never done an opposed landing but will the defending unit fire at landing or not in this case? If not it is a bug. It it fires then they are OK to me.
As a programmer myself, I can't understand why the landing procedures in WITP should be managed differently in bases and open hexes. If this is the case, the game probably checks if you land on an enemy base and if it is the case you will suffer disruption, artillery fire and so on. The good check is to check if you land on a friendly base. In all other cases you will suffer disruption and eventual enemy fire.

By the way I will still land in Vancouver/Seattle, probably direct in Vancouver.

[mogami]

Hi, I let my transports get too far south and too near the coast. I was waiting for the slower ones to catch up and I could not make up my mind where to land. The air attacks convinced me to stay inside A6m2 land based cover.
Any time you see me landing on a non dot hex there is only one explanation. The transports are burning (sinking) and I am trying to get the troops off before the ships sink. So there are some Japanese units coming ashore on non dot hexes. These units will only get orders to rejoin their parent formation.

I am at least 2 weeks behind where a compentant Japanese player conducting this operation would be.

[AmiralLaurent]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

I am at least 2 weeks behind where a compentant Japanese player conducting this operation would be.

You really think so ? ... in my PH invasion attempt I landed only on 25 January and that is far closer than WC. And you have more than twice troops to carry (I can't imagine how you manage to provide all these ships with fuel).

By the way I landed last turn a SNLF in a non-dot "defended" by the remmants of a British BF and the landing screen was as usual, with 90 cas taken by my unit during landing. I don't know if the defending unit may fire or not but I guess it can too, but in this case had no more guns.