3 years and nothing changed

[AndrewC]

nt

[Terminus]

I suggest that instead of coming in here and shouting at people, you expend a little of your pent-up self-righteous fury in rectifying the problem. Make a "proper" Romanian OOB and post it, so people can pick it up if they so choose.

Until you've done even a fraction of the work the developers have done, you have NO RIGHT to use that sort of tone in here!

But you're not going to do that, are you? It's soooo much easier to mouth off.

[Goblin]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I suggest that instead of coming in here and shouting at people, you expend a little of your pent-up righteous fury in rectifying the problem. Make a "proper" Romanian OOB and post it, so people can pick it up if they so choose.

Until you've done even a fraction of the work the developers have done, you have NO RIGHT to use that sort of tone in here!

But you're not going to do that, are you? It's soooo much easier to mouth off.

[AndrewC]

nt

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: AndrewC

no, I suggested Erwin to make a bonfire of his books, if that's where he gets his bs information from... now quit spamming please

Andrew--we would love to have specifics in suggestions for changes to the Romanian OOB. As a matter of fact, there is a forum dedicated to the Romanians in WWII. Are you familiar with it? http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/

To settle one thing -- I have nothing against you personally, man, nor does anyone else. We are all students of the military, but you, sir, seem to have an axe to grind. Having been an OOB designer and moderator, I'm used to this kind of vitriol. However, it has no place in an attempted even-handed discussion of this game.

[Terminus]

AndrewC, we're done here. You contribute nothing but infantile name-calling and worthless self-righteousness, and my time is too precious for that. You may have been around since 2.0, but you haven't learned anything about manners.

(gotta love the Block User list).

[AndrewC]

nt

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: AndrewC

From the top of my head, I remember that the romanian inf platoon oob in SPWaW for 1941 was 4 squads of each 10 men. In reality, it was 3 sqauds of 17 men. Big difference. Also using the appropriate country flag would be a nice start. It pains me to see the flag used from 1965 to 1989. [8|] I posted this and other corrections many times before. No one took me seriously because somehow their sources are better than mine. Aww shoot! At the same time, someone comes out of nowhere and suggests they add an american recoilless gun that was never before in SPWaW. His wish was granted almost instantly!

That's better. Andrew, get familiar with the OOB Editor, and go to work on it. You can post your results at the SPWaW Depot, or send it to Alby. Matrix itself is offering no more official OOB updates.

Frankly, I'd like this attention to detail extended to EVERY minor nation in SPWaW.

[AndrewC]

nt

[Goblin]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

ORIGINAL: AndrewC

From the top of my head, I remember that the romanian inf platoon oob in SPWaW for 1941 was 4 squads of each 10 men. In reality, it was 3 sqauds of 17 men. Big difference. Also using the appropriate country flag would be a nice start. It pains me to see the flag used from 1965 to 1989. [8|] I posted this and other corrections many times before. No one took me seriously because somehow their sources are better than mine. Aww shoot! At the same time, someone comes out of nowhere and suggests they add an american recoilless gun that was never before in SPWaW. His wish was granted almost instantly!

That's better. Andrew, get familiar with the OOB Editor, and go to work on it. You can post your results at the SPWaW Depot, or send it to Alby. Matrix itself is offering no more official OOB updates.

Frankly, I'd like this attention to detail extended to EVERY minor nation in SPWaW.

His tone better change significantly if he wants to visit there.

Andrew - you probably lost any chance at someone respecting anything you have to say now. You lost one potential ally here, as I am now out of it too. I'll join that 'chump' for a beer. At least he is polite, for a 'professional spammer'.




Goblin

[KG Erwin]

8.3 contained the last "official" changes.

[Alby]

I thought Mike Amos (warhorse) did extensive work on the axis minors OOBS?

[Major Destruction]

Warhorse did make contributions indeed and they were good. He also contributed greatly to the icons.

I worked with Gavris Narcis on the Romanian OOB and made significant changes - perhaps not as many as we might have made but there are improvements that can still do with further improving, no doubt. Certainly much has been done there in the past three years. Unfortunately regardless of effort applied to OOB updates, if the national ratings are off, it's all for nought.

[Goblin]

AndrewC,

Just saw your apology (slipped in before my post above). Lets leave the thread here and learn from it, no? Can't we all just get along? Love your fellow wargamer, but don't love your fellow wargamer.[;)]



Goblin

[Major Destruction]

It shouldn't be difficult to change the country flag. It's only an icon. All we need is the appropriate file to replace the existing icon. It was done for Canada.

[Major Destruction]

ORIGINAL: Swamprat

Examples - If Brits are given experience levels that reflect empire experience, then in 1940 battles they will do quite well against Germans, leaving one to think 'hang on, how come they didn't do so well in real life'.

I think the British troops did quite well against the Germans in 1940 tactically - which is the world we live in in SPWAW. Their performance strategically, especially in Norway, was a lot less to be desired. This is where the broad brush approach to these national ratings does not work. If you give the Nation good troop experience levels they will perform well in combat. Provide poor leadership values and they will not be easily rallied and artillery support will be hard to come by. But apply some bland, across-the-board- generic 40 rating to any nation and you effectively remove that nation from the game.

Attention should be paid to the ratings. This has never been discussed openly AFAIR and no concensus arrived at.

[Goblin]

Here's an issue that needs addressed!

The scroll speed in the plotting windows (arty, para, specops, etc) is not controlled by the scroll speed setting in preferences. On faster machines, it is almost impossible to plot arty. Can Mike fix this so that the scroll speed affects all menus?



Goblin

[rich12545]

Yeah yeah yeah. I brought this up a couple years ago. Would love to see it. Arty can be plotted ok by clicking on the little map but slower scrolling would be great.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

God bless the Finns!

"So many Russians, so few bullets."

The experiance ratings ETC, are messed up at best. 1945 US Army tank crews with a rating of less than 60? WTF is that? This puts their ROF in to the same range as a Tiger II or even some 150mm weapons.

Rumanian troops were poorly lead but very brave and fought well from everything I have read.

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

God bless the Finns!

"So many Russians, so few bullets."

The experiance ratings ETC, are messed up at best. 1945 US Army tank crews with a rating of less than 60? WTF is that? This puts their ROF in to the same range as a Tiger II or even some 150mm weapons.

Rumanian troops were poorly lead but very brave and fought well from everything I have read.

I am experiencing this in a pbem game
My US tanks get 2 shots at best.....[:(]