Modified OOB set

Guderian · Post by **Guderian** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 1:57 am

I have created a set of modified OOB's, with most mistakes/bugs corrected, and a few new additions. Drop a line here if you wish to get a copy.

Cheers all.

troopie · Post by **troopie** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:17 am

Is this the same as your last set. If not e-mail me a copy asseblief.

Dankie,
troopie

Schrullenhaft · Post by **Schrullenhaft** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:26 am

Hey... I'm lazy... email me a copy please.

ian_straw@hotmail.com

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:37 am

I would love to see your handiwork, Gud. Put me down please (on your list, that is

)...Wild Bill

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David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:54 am

Hey

Count me in to I would love to see what you have done.

Tankhead · Post by **Tankhead** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 7:24 am

Count me in I in love to see what you have done.

Tankhead

Six-pk · Post by **Six-pk** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 9:34 am

Me to!

Six

grockall · Post by **grockall** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 1:56 pm

A copy would be very much appreciated.

Grockall

ncpanther · Post by **ncpanther** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 5:03 pm

I would love a copy. Thanks!

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ncpanther · Post by **ncpanther** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 5:05 pm

I would love a copy. Thanks!

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talon · Post by **talon** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 5:22 pm

Well I also would like to get a copy Guderian

Charles22 · Post by **Charles22** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:08 pm

Guderian: While perusing some OOB's I noticed one particular tank had a slope of 90 degrees. Can't pin it down however, sorry. Must have been either Russian, German or Polish. I wonder if you caught that.

Voriax · Post by **Voriax** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:15 pm

Originally posted by Charles22:
Guderian: While perusing some OOB's I noticed one particular tank had a slope of 90 degrees. Can't pin it down however, sorry. Must have been either Russian, German or Polish. I wonder if you caught that.

What a slope

It's German StuG IIIf/8, rear hull slope 90 degrees. Might change it to the same as the regular IIIf, 23 deg.

Voriax

Charles22 · Post by **Charles22** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 6:21 pm

I think there were some other discrepancies between those two of the SGIII series which I found interesting. I'm not saying what I saw was incorrect, but it didn't seem entirely logical as I imagined that the SGIIIG would have the edge all around. I also noticed that the PZIVD has I believe a 5 higher amount of AP rounds than the PZIVC. That's fairly crucial for that part of the German effort. I definitely hesitate to upgarde a PZIVC to a PZIVD, just becasue of slightly more armor, but the round increase makes more tempting (Do you wait till the PZIVE comes out?).

Omar.N.Bradley · Post by **Omar.N.Bradley** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 8:26 pm

Hi Guderian,

I would also like to have a copy if you have the time.

Omar.N.Bradley

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Guderian · Post by **Guderian** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 9:29 pm

Originally posted by Charles22:
Guderian: While perusing some OOB's I noticed one particular tank had a slope of 90 degrees. Can't pin it down however, sorry. Must have been either Russian, German or Polish. I wonder if you caught that.

No, i didn't

. I worked mostly on infantry and AT-guns this time, major revision of tanks will come with ver 3.0. I'm going to do the dirty job of checking if all the Shermans etc have the same stats in each nation - i remember the good old bug (killed in Spww2) of US Sherms having 2 poinst armor more then Brit/Canadian ones.

talon · Post by **talon** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 10:05 pm

Considering the thing with the ammo Charles I would say that the erliest versions of the greman tanks III and IV had the biggest amont of ammo and this was lowered thereafter to alow the higher amor . Ammo had to be reduced so that the weight of the tank didn´t grow to much

Charles22 · Post by **Charles22** » Wed Jun 28, 2000 11:55 pm

I'm not saying that latter versions having more ammo is bad, but on the other hand, you have to know ALL the details to really know whether a latter version would naturally have less ammo instead of more, afterall, if the vehicle ended up pulling with more power in the newer model, adding more ammo may had been part of the equation of taking advantage of that extra power.

Panther · Post by **Panther** » Thu Jun 29, 2000 12:18 am

Ammo carrying capacity is a very subjective thing. Many tanks would carry extra ammo when going in to battle. This includes holding rounds in their hands as well as stashing rounds every where they could beyond the official numbers. Or at times the oppisite would be true then there was very little ammo.

Voriax · Post by **Voriax** » Thu Jun 29, 2000 12:32 am

Originally posted by talon:
Considering the thing with the ammo Charles I would say that the erliest versions of the greman tanks III and IV had the biggest amont of ammo and this was lowered thereafter to alow the higher amor . Ammo had to be reduced so that the weight of the tank didn´t grow to much

Consider also that the later versions tended to be upgunned. Early PzIII's had 37mm guns, then came the short 50mm with a larger gun itself and larger rounds. Then came long 50mm gun and again new kind of ammo (longer casings I think) so again you had to redesign ammo racks. But as there is only so much space in a tank you ended up having less ammo each time you upgunned the design.

Voriax