Updated Operation Shingle Scenario Available

Battles In Italy is the fourth game in the award-winning Decisive Battles of WWII game series from Strategic Studies Group. Battles in Italy recreates all aspects of the Italy campaign, from the landings on Sicily to Salerno, Anzio and Rome. Strategic Studies Group has again updated the Decisive Battles game engine for Battles in Italy with campaign specific features and other enhancements.

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Updated Operation Shingle Scenario Available

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An updated version of Operation Shingle is available HERE (as a pre-release attachment on the forums).

Summary of changes:

- fixes 1st Brit recon not arriving
- fixes strength of 179 Reg/45th Div
- tweaks strength of 509th Parachute Inf Battalion
- tweaks a couple of German Regiments (made each have same number of steps as their sister regiments in same division)


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Perhaps this should be uploaded to the Run5 main scenarios page?
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ORIGINAL: WachtamRhein

Perhaps this should be uploaded to the Run5 main scenarios page?


We'll look into doing just that once Robjess returns from holiday.

This is only intended as an interim solution (until an official update is released) so it may or may not go on the scenario download page.

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I think Rob is already working on it :)
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If you want to update Operation Shingle, here are a couple of things to change:
- Name of French divisions:
1ère Division d'Infanterie Motorisée (or (renamed from the 1ère Division Française Libre) It was never called Division de Marche. Not even in Tunisia in 1942 or 1943.
2ème Division d’Infanterie Marocaine
3ème Division d’Infanterie Algérienne
4ème Division Marocaine de Montagne

- Name of Polish divisions:
If you name the units in their own language, then the same applies for the Polish unit:
3rd Carpathian Rifle Division - 3.DSK - 3. Dywizja Strzelców Karpackich

- Name of the German infantry divisions:
Infantry should be replaced by Infanterie. It is written Gebirgsjäger and Fallschrimjäger, then why not Infanterie ???
Assault gun: Stug Abteilung (for the scale of the game)

- New units:
According to General Alexander's despatch to the War Office and a book published by the Archives of the French Army, on the 22nd of January, the 3ème Groupe de Tabors Marocains and the 4ème Groupe de Tabors Marocains were on the Front line (not the 1er and the 3ème as created in the game). The 1er Groupe de Tabors Marocains arrived in April 1944.
So Groupe de Goums should be renamed Groupe de Tabors and the 1er should be replaced by the 4ème.
One groupe de Tabors consists of 3 Tabors (sort of regiment). One Tabor is composed of 3 Goums (sort of Battalion).

- 162 Turkestan Infanterie Division:
This unit was in the north of Italy from January to March. It was only released in April 1944. It was formed of :
Gren.Reg.303 (from the Turkestanische Legion)
Gren.Reg.314 (from the Azerbajdzanische Legion)
Gren.Reg.329 (from the the Armenische Legion, Georgische Legion and Nordkaukasische Legion)

Therefore, this unit should not be included in the game.

I hope these remarks will help you. I must say that I checked and rechecked these oobs as I am designing a game on the Italian campaign myself.

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ORIGINAL: lysimachus

I hope these remarks will help you. I must say that I checked and rechecked these oobs as I am designing a game on the Italian campaign myself.
Lysimachus,

These have helped a great bit. As much as the editor allows these changes have been implemented. Updated scenario has been submitted to Robjess for posting.

Thanks for the post!

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I have now released an official version of this mod/update. It can be found from the SSG/Run5 scenario page:

http://www.ssg.com.au/Run5/scenarios.htm

Special thanks goes to lysimachus for his advice of the updated name changes and oobs.
Isn't that bizarre?
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