What new scenarios would you like to see?

Norm Koger's The Operational Art of War III is the next game in the award-winning Operational Art of War game series. TOAW3 is updated and enhanced version of the TOAW: Century of Warfare game series. TOAW3 is a turn based game covering operational warfare from 1850-2015. Game scale is from 2.5km to 50km and half day to full week turns. TOAW3 scenarios have been designed by over 70 designers and included over 130 scenarios. TOAW3 comes complete with a full game editor.

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What new scenarios would you like to see?

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Hi!

I am hopefull that TOAW: ME, will see the addition of more well tested, fun scenarios. (If I'm wrong here, could someone on the staff please correct me.) So, given that this is true, what new scenarios would you like to see included?

Here is my input.

I like large scenarios. So.., I would like to see...

1) a "war in europe" scenario and
2) a "what if" war in europe scenario where France becomes the dominant force (ala Napoleon) whose objective is to conquer the continent.

I'd also like to see something totally off the wall. Perhaps a near future type of campaign.

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It has been quite a while since I was able to play but if there isn't one already, I'd like to see Lam Son 719.
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I like smaller scenarios. I'd like to see some well thought out scenarios based on individual operations, for example Kharkov in winter 42/43 at divisional level, or some of the British/Canadian attempts to break out of Normandy at (say) regimental level.

Big scenarios, with huge numbers of counters - no thanks. If you really, really must do Barbarossa, do it the way SPI did it 1st and best - Corps level for the Germans, Army level for the Russians. That way I might even finish the war.

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It has been quite a while since I was able to play but if there isn't one already, I'd like to see Lam Son 719.

Whether it has been done by a scenario designer before or not, I don't think should be used as a qualifier. Just because it was done before, doesn't mean it was done well, or couldn't be improved.

So let your imagination and preferences go wild!

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Whether it has been done by a scenario designer before or not, I don't think should be used as a qualifier. Just because it was done before, doesn't mean it was done well, or couldn't be improved.

That's absolutely true.

Anyway, my interest in new scenarios would be dependent upon what new features the Matrix Edition includes. I'd want the scenarios to make the best use of those in doing things which TOAW as it stands can't do. For example, if a better Command and Control model is adopted, they could make a decent Battle of France scenario. If they come up with a better supply model, then a scenario covering the campaign in France in August and September of 1944 would be good.

Absent any changes, a lot of the scenarios I'd like to see are already under development. Peversely, the promise that such things might get included in a special Matrix release may lead to designers holding off from releasing them.
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I could definately dig on a new and/or different take on the Battle of France.

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Big scenarios, with huge numbers of counters - no thanks. If you really, really must do Barbarossa, do it the way SPI did it 1st and best - Corps level for the Germans, Army level for the Russians. That way I might even finish the war.

Steve.

Totally agree.

Getting the scale right is one the main characteristics of a good scenario. For those who want more.. there is always the editor.

The Barbarossa scenario which shipped with the game, seemed more of a puzzle to me than an opportunity to try different operational concepts to win

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Hi!

Actually, a point was made on another thread that perhaps the Matrix team will not actually be creating totally new scenarios for their release.

Could someone from the staff comment.

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If you really, really must do Barbarossa, do it the way SPI did it 1st and best - Corps level for the Germans, Army level for the Russians.

Sweet. I did a 250km/hex Barbarossa scenario at one point. Gimme a moment and I'll link you. Though I may not have been taking the project very seriously.

EDIT: Goddamn... I took it down. Oh well. It was basically just bad satire anyway.
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ORIGINAL: Lava

Hi!

Actually, a point was made on another thread that perhaps the Matrix team will not actually be creating totally new scenarios for their release.

Could someone from the staff comment.

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New scenarios will not be on the first release. That much I know. After that, all things are possible.
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New scenarios will not be on the first release.

Care to elaborate?
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If you really, really must do Barbarossa, do it the way SPI did it 1st and best - Corps level for the Germans, Army level for the Russians.

Sweet. I did a 250km/hex Barbarossa scenario at one point. Gimme a moment and I'll link you. Though I may not have been taking the project very seriously.

EDIT: Goddamn... I took it down. Oh well. It was basically just bad satire anyway.
Oh, well. Later, perhaps! [:)][;)]

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Oh, well. Later, perhaps! [:)][;)]

I do have it on my computer if you want a copy. But I think Bob Cross' 50km/hex study is more what you had in mind.
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I would like to see a scenario about the German offensives in 1918, and if possible to the end of the war in November 18.
Another one would be the Indochina war.

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New scenarios will not be on the first release. That much I know. After that, all things are possible.

I'll try this again: Does this by any chance mean that only the original stock scenarios are included in the first release?
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I'll try this again: Does this by any chance mean that only the original stock scenarios are included in the first release?

In case it fails again; I don't think it'll be just the 'original stock' scenarios. Rather it'll be the compilation which Daniel McBride etc. are compiling from Rugged Defence at present.
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In case it fails again; I don't think it'll be just the 'original stock' scenarios. Rather it'll be the compilation which Daniel McBride etc. are compiling from Rugged Defence at present.

Well that was my understanding in the first place.
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In case it fails again; I don't think it'll be just the 'original stock' scenarios. Rather it'll be the compilation which Daniel McBride etc. are compiling from Rugged Defence at present.

Do you have a link for this?

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Do you have a link for this?

For the list? No. All I know is that Daniel McBride has selected a group of eighteen people who will trawl through all known scenarios to weed out the ones with serious problems. The remainder will get put on the CD.
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Ray, you could do worse than to go over to here.

It's "The Matrix-TOAW Scenario Development Group " thread on SZO.

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