Will WITP engine use Ohka (test)

[el cid again]

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M Nell x 98

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 7 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
4 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
27 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
4 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
20 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
9 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
2 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
2 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
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Day Air attack on Naga , at 44,54

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 73
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-35A x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 6 destroyed
P-35A: 6 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 9 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed
B-17C Fortress: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 140

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
6 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
5 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
15 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
11 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
7 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
6 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
2 x G3M Nell ohka bombing
3 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
3 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
4 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
3 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
4 x G4M1 Betty ohka bombing
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
D3A Val x 126
B5N Kate x 143

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 5
P-40B Tomahawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
D3A Val: 13 destroyed, 44 damaged
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed, 32 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
P-26A: 4 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 16 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 35 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 17 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 7 destroyed
A-20B Boston: 6 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

[el cid again]

To run this test, I lied to the program:

OKHA available 12/41.
OKHA weighs the same as an 18 inch torpedo.
Kate, Betty and Nell carry OKHA.

Note that Betty and Nell use OKHA against land targets, and Kate does NOT use it.

Since OKHA was radio controlled, it COULD be used against land targets, but that was not the INTENDED use.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: el cid again

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Since OKHA was radio controlled

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Radio controlled? [8D]


Leo "Apollo11"

[Gen.Hoepner]

Wasn't a missile with a kamikaze pilot aboard?

[michaelm75au]

MXY7 Ohka 11.
This single-seat, human-guided flying bomb packed a large warhead in the nose and employed three small rocket engines mounted in the tail to extend its range. The Ohka was brought within striking distance snugged to the belly of a twin-engine, Mitsubishi G4M BETTY bomber (NASM has the remains of a BETTY forward fuselage section and engines).

To solve the problem, Kugisho developed a new model and boosted its range to about 130 km (81 miles). This was a considerable improvement over the 37 km (23 mile) -range of the Ohka 11. The new version, designated the Ohka 22, was modified in two significant ways. Kugisho halved the size of the warhead to 600 kg (1,323 lb), then installed a new hybrid engine called the Tsu-11.

[el cid again]

Radio controlled?

Sorry. Probably not. I did not create the game device - it is in stock WITP - so it probably IS the human controlled version. I was thinking of a different version (I am a student of guided missile history) - one using the IGO-1B radio command guidance system. Japan and Germany (and the USA) all developed ASCMs, and the US and Germany achieved sinkings with them during the war. The Japanese have a radio controlled target ship (an ex battleship) and radio controlled target planes (for gunnery practice) - dating from the 1930s - so the technology to radio command was not alien or even new. But the game device probably was meant to simulate the OKHA Model 11 - it does not say (there are no notes). This could be fired from land, submarine or airplane. It is awfully heavy though.

[michaelm75au]

OKHA Model 11 - it does not say (there are no notes).

Apart from the device name (MXY7 Ohka 11)...[:D]

[Aawulf]

I have tested the device type in other slots with various characteristics and it doesn't use pilots from the pool. While I don't know if the OHKA slot is hard coded to use pilots, the device type simulates a missile or rocket. The device's guidance system is a matter of accurancy and range as entered into those respective fields.

[el cid again]

I have tested the device type in other slots with various characteristics and it doesn't use pilots from the pool. While I don't know if the OHKA slot is hard coded to use pilots, the device type simulates a missile or rocket. The device's guidance system is a matter of accurancy and range as entered into those respective fields.

Correct. In spite of many OHKA hits, the pilots take no losses. So I thought it might be the RC version.

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: el cid again
Note that Betty and Nell use OKHA against land targets, and Kate does NOT use it.

It might have something to do with Max Load of the aircraft and Load Cost of the weapon...

...although, now that I think of it, I really fail to see how. Load Cost for Okha in the database is 2646, and even the latest Betty model (the one that carries Okha in the original game) has Max Load of only 2205.

Also, Nells have Max Load of 1764 same as Kate, so if I am right then neither Kate nor Nell should be able to carry an Okha.

BTW el cid again, is you old el cid I know and have played long and very slow UV game with? Sid from Alaska?

If so - welcome back man! CHS guys and other modders - listen to this guy, he's *very* knowledgable.

Oleg

[el cid again]

It might have something to do with Max Load of the aircraft and Load Cost of the weapon...

...although, now that I think of it, I really fail to see how. Load Cost for Okha in the database is 2646, and even the latest Betty model (the one that carries Okha in the original game) has Max Load of only 2205.

My test was ONLY to find out IF the code WOULD make an attack with the weapon. So I cheated - and I defined the OKHA at the weight of a torpedo the planes can carry. And in my mod work, I changed the E model Betty to have the correct load. Actually 2646 is an error - that is the WARHEAD ALONE. The real OKHA weighs almost twice that!

[el cid again]

BTW el cid again, is you old el cid I know and have played long and very slow UV game with? Sid from Alaska?

Yeah - Matrix wont fix it so I can use El Cid any more. So I am El Cid again. When we played I was in Washington, but now I have returned to Alaska.