Where I can buy TOAW from still?

Norm Koger's The Operational Art of War III is the next game in the award-winning Operational Art of War game series. TOAW3 is updated and enhanced version of the TOAW: Century of Warfare game series. TOAW3 is a turn based game covering operational warfare from 1850-2015. Game scale is from 2.5km to 50km and half day to full week turns. TOAW3 scenarios have been designed by over 70 designers and included over 130 scenarios. TOAW3 comes complete with a full game editor.

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Where I can buy TOAW from still?

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Hi there,

First of all, allow me to say that I am very pleased Matrix Games will be taking on this fine title and hopefully once more, this great game, from what I hear, will be re-released once again for the newer and up-to-date systems, not to mention create a new following of players.

Anyway, despite this good news, development time for the new Matrix Edition is still on going and from what I believe, it could take a while for the new edition to be released. That is why I am interested in purchasing the original Talonsoft version of TOAW: Century of Warfare.

So far, I have not been able to even find it. I am looking for a brand new version that is still being sold, not second hand. I have played a demo, which was released on Gamespot, although the version is TOAW Volume 1, not any of the later versions. It runs fine on my Windows XP, so it shouldn't be a problem for an original......

So, can anyone help me? European websites would do, aslong as any website is a trusted website, mind you, and sells new copies, then I will be okay with that.

Thankyou for your time
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I don't think anywhere is selling new copies of TOAW. Until Matrix bought the rights, the only place that was known to do so was the Take Two website.

Since Take Two is no longer selling TOAW, if they had some copies of the game in stock then they presumably became property of Matrix when the rights to the game were sold. It might be worth e-mailing someone at Matrix to find out about this.

Otherwise you will most likely either have to look for a second hand copy or wait for Matrix to release their version.
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Thankyou for your reply.

I see, that is indeed a shame but I might actually probably try E-mailing someone from Matrix to see if they have any extra copies they might be willing to sell. Would anyone here know of where I could find someone or a list of Matrix members whom I could contact regarding this issue?

Thanks.
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I'd like a copy of TOAW:COW too if you find any available.
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There always the NWS store here, listing TOAW CoW, even if as a 'special order item' (no price or availability mentioned on their site as of now).

Hope both of you will be able to get your hands on a copy.
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As much as I'm willing to support Matrix, in the interim there's still ebay.........if you 'have to do it' now.........[:(]
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ORIGINAL: L`zard

As much as I'm willing to support Matrix, in the interim there's still ebay.........if you 'have to do it' now.........[:(]

Every time I've checked, eBay has only been selling Volume I and WotY.
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Dear Guys,
If I bought WOTY edition, how much would I be losing from the COW edition? I assume patches would be available to patch WOTY to COW standards. What scenarios would I be missing that I could not get at the Wargamer, etc.? Were there interface or intro video differences or other differences? I can't find COW, but might be able to find WOTY, and wondered if that was a good way to go.
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Have a look here. There´s a no-CD patch for 1.04 that is likely legal to use if you can get your hands on a CD to make the base install from. As for patching from WOTY to COW, I don´t think that´s possible. Two different games, even if they look the same once you run them...

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Dear Guys,
If I bought WOTY edition, how much would I be losing from the COW edition? I assume patches would be available to patch WOTY to COW standards. What scenarios would I be missing that I could not get at the Wargamer, etc.? Were there interface or intro video differences or other differences? I can't find COW, but might be able to find WOTY, and wondered if that was a good way to go.
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WotY patched up should play fine- but the problem is that the community standard is COW. Everyone PBMs in COW, everyone designs scenarios for COW and user-made utilities like the BioEd work with COW.

This sucks- basically the extra release was nothing but a cash cow (pun intended) for Talonsoft. Unfortunately, unless you can figure a way to convince everyone else to go back to using WotY (hard work since I don't even own that game), you're going to have to find a copy of COW.... or wait for Matrix to publish something.
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i have COW wich I played maybe 5 times so its almost new.
I'm willing to sell it but it depends on the priceyou want to pay for it.
Furthermore I live in Belgium,so there are also the shipping costs to consider.
Please mail me if interested.
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I am having a game clearout, and was planning of flogging them and other games to NWS. To be honest I do not have the patience to list them all on ebay.

my game for sell list includes
TAOW I CD
TAOW II CD + Kosovo Mission CD
I have the manual for at least one of them, I just cannot remember which one at this moment.

Unfortunately I want to keep hold of my TAOW-COW for myself.

If anyone is interested, PM me [:)]
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I know someone on warfarehq was/is collecting old versions of toaw to be used as scenario updators (acow can only read scens from the most recent patches of toaw1/2/woty), but I'm not sure if he has all the versions yet.
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..maybe as it's open code, toaw-acow should available for free download somewhere..[8D]
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..maybe as it's open code, toaw-acow should available for free download somewhere..[8D]

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I would really advise anyone who wants TOAW now to just hold on a little while longer. We are not planning to keep this off the market for months. As soon as it returns with a Matrix Edition, you'll have an updated and supported version with ongoing development, which is definitely a strong plus over what you might get with an old version from Ebay.

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

I would really advise anyone who wants TOAW now to just hold on a little while longer. We are not planning to keep this off the market for months. As soon as it returns with a Matrix Edition, you'll have an updated and supported version with ongoing development, which is definitely a strong plus over what you might get with an old version from Ebay.

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This is very good news! Thanks for keeping us informed Erik.
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Is there a "sign up sheet" to get an e-mail notification of when this hits the market? I'm horrible about staying up on games I find that sound interesting enough to buy but are not yet available.

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If you sign up for our Members' Club and ask to be sent our newsletter, then you will definitely hear about this via e-mail even if you forget to return to the forums.

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