Name this MWiF Counter - 03

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Which MWiF counter was used to assassinate an enemy Admiral?
(Not talking about collateral casualties here - the sole purpose of one particular mission for this counter was assassination)
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An MWiF counter used to assassinate an Admiral?

Umm, you might be thinking about "Leaders in Flames" stuff, but that was not in the MWiF as far as I know. "Leaders in Flames" does not appear on the ADG list, I think it is a fan based variant...

By the way, please clarify.

MWiF = Matrix World In Flames
CWiF = Computer (Chris Marriachi ?) World in Flames.
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hmm assasination of an admiral, could you be thinking of the P-38s of the 13th Air Force based at Guadalcanal, who on April 18 1943, were sent out to shoot down the flight of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto?

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ORIGINAL: mlees
An MWiF counter used to assassinate an Admiral?

Umm, you might be thinking about "Leaders in Flames" stuff, but that was not in the MWiF as far as I know. "Leaders in Flames" does not appear on the ADG list, I think it is a fan based variant...

By the way, please clarify.

MWiF = Matrix World In Flames
CWiF = Computer (Chris Marriachi ?) World in Flames.

The counter was hurled by a ninja at blinding speed and struck the Admiral in the temple, causing immediate paralysis and eventual death from the poison laden cardboard.

Leaders in Flames is an actual ADG product and a very nice one too, in my opinion. I was instrumental in delaying its inclusion in MWIF until a later product. That is because the leader capabilities affect practically every line of the written rules by introducing even more exceptions than there already are. Putting leaders in means reviewing, revising, and testing every rule several different times/ways. I have enough headaches doing that already with the addition of Convoys in Flames and Crusiers in Flames. This is one of the few arguments I won.

MWiF = Matrix World In Flames - YES
CWiF = Computer (Chris Marinacci) World in Flames - YES (sometimes ambiguity mascarades as a double entendre).
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It is the P-38G-13-LO Lightning of Thomas G Lanphier (13 AF 347 FG 339 FS).
The Admiral is Isoroku Yamamoto
The day is 18 April 1943.
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The story is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamamoto_Isoroku.
The story says Rex Barber got a half of the credit after Lanphier's death in 1983, so this might be him too.
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terje439 is correct... closely followed by Froonp.

Designed by Clarence Kelly who would later design the U2 (of Gary Powers fame), the Lockheed P-38 Lightning was a superb fighter which defied the adage that twin engined aircraft were less maneauverable than their single engined counterparts. The first production version was the P-38D which was equipped with pilot armor, self-sealing fuel tanks, twin 1,150hp engines driving contra-rotating propellors and an armament of one 37mm cannon and four 12.9mm machine guns. Top speed was 632kph. The first P-38s to be deployed were the F4 camera-equipped recon version which were sent to Australia in April 1942.

The Lockheed P-38F Lightning had improved 1,325hp engines and the single bulky 37mm cannon was removed in favor of an armament of four 20mm cannon. Underwing pylons were added to carry drop tanks or two 500kg bombs. The canopy was changed from a side opening design to the rear-hinged upward-opening design commonly used on modern fighter jets. In 1942 these aircraft were deployed to support Operation Torch, the Allied landings in North Africa.

The Lockheed P-38G Lightning featured redesigned Allison engines which were more effective at high altitudes. With a range of over 3,600k and a bomb load of 1,500kg, the P-38G was an effective strike weapon. On April 18, 1943 sixteen P-38s successfully flew 700km at an altitude of only fifteen metres above sea level (to avoid detection) to intercept and shoot down two Japanese G4M 'Betty' bombers which were carrying Admiral Yamamoto and his staff. Yamamoto had been the architect of the attack on Pearl Harbor.

In October 1943, Lockheed P-38H Lightnings were deployed as long-range escorts for USAAF bombing missions over Germany. The high altitudes required to perform these escort missions were hard on the twin 1,425hp engines and on the pilot sitting in his unheated cockpit. Surprisingly, the P-38H engines suffered from cooling problems on these missions due to frequent failure of the complex design of the intercoolers which passed air through conduits on the leading edges of the wings.

Redesign of the intercooler air flow allowed the the Lockheed P-38J Lightnings to get 1,600hp from the same engines which produced only 1,425hp on the P-38H. Additional enhancements included power-assisted controls which significantly reduced the effort required to control the yoke and a cabin heater. The P-38J could fly for up to 12 hours when fully loaded with fuel.

The Lockheed P-38L Lightning was the final air superiority version of that aircraft. Subsequent development would focus on recon and experimental tasks. The P-38L was fitted with a tail radar which would warn the pilot of any aircraft approaching from the rear.


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...only 94 air units to go [:)]
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The Lockheed P-38F Lightning had improved 1,325hp engines and the single bulky 37mm cannon was removed in favor of an armament of four 20mm cannon. Underwing pylons were added to carry drop tanks or two 500kg bombs. The canopy was changed from a side opening design to the rear-hinged upward-opening design commonly used on modern fighter jets. In 1942 these aircraft were deployed to support Operation Torch, the Allied landings in North Africa.
I think you should doublecheck the armament, because I think that no P-38 ever were equipped with 4 x 20 mm cannons.
I think the F variant was equipped with 4 x .50 cal machineguns and 1 x 20 mm cannon.
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The counter was hurled by a ninja at blinding speed and struck the Admiral in the temple, causing immediate paralysis and eventual death from the poison laden cardboard.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

I think you should doublecheck the armament, because I think that no P-38 ever were equipped with 4 x 20 mm cannons.
I think the F variant was equipped with 4 x .50 cal machineguns and 1 x 20 mm cannon.
There are many contradictory entries for some aircraft and it all needs sanity checking.
My first objective is to get an entry for each aircraft done then go back and review.

MAybe we can include the XP-58...

http://www.vectorsite.net/avp38.html

The XP-58 was to mount four 37 millimeter fixed forward-firing cannon and two remote-control barbettes, each with two 12.7 millimeter machine guns, mounted at the rear of the crew nacelle. An alternate forward armament of two 12.7 millimeter machine guns and a 75 millimeter cannon, for breaking up bomber formations, was also considered, but in reality no armament was ever fitted.

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