Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Thankfully no sync issue this turn. I swear there is no rhyme nor reason to it.
Thankfully KB did not hit PH again. The destruction Tony did was massive as no fighters were left and many ships were torped and flooding. All ships had ops expenditures of 1000 so I was not going to try an evac the undamaged fast warships as they would be sitting ducks. Remeber the Allied damcon is off so some of the more badly damaged ships are hanging in the balance and a second attack may have been catastrophic.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 10
No Allied losses
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pescadores at 47,44
Japanese Ships
ML Hatsushima, Shell hits 4
ML Odate
ML Tateishi
ML Tsurushima, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet
ASW attack near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
Allied Ships
SS Salmon
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Sub attack near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese Ships
AK Yamagiku Maru
Allied Ships
SS Salmon
Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Haaburu Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 13
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8
Blenheim I x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Kinugawa Maru
AP Heiyo Maru
AK Meikai Maru
AP Yamato Maru
AK Nissyu Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hukuei Maru
AK Sado Maru
AK Taketoyo Maru
AK Kenyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Aobasan Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,45,
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Yellow Sea
AP President Harrison, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,45
Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Ben Nevis
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,46
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Chekiang, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 42,43
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Haraldsvang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
TK Ebonol, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Taiping, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,47
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18
Ki-48-I Lily x 9
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Bangkok
AK Kalgan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,46
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Kiangsu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 48,43
Japanese aircraft
D1A Susie x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Yellow Sea
AK Morazan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D1A Susie bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,47
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Yellow Sea
AK Norse Carrier, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,45
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
DM Thracian, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,45
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G3M Nell x 31
Ki-27 Nate x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
ML Redstart, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships: Fleeing Hong Kong
DD Thanet
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Nenohi
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
ML Hatsutaka
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 45,54
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Minryo Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Teikin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Hokuriku Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Awa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,55
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5N2 Kate x 28
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Near Leyte
AK Escalante R, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 42
Ki-27 Nate x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thanet
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 9
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
DD Scout, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat at 110,130 Near Tahiti
Japanese Ships
PG Aikoku Maru
PG Hokoku Maru
Allied Ships
AK Vincent, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat at 43,46 Between Hong Kong and Lingayen
Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Torpedo hits 1
APD Patrol Boat No. 1
APD Patrol Boat No. 2
PC Aso Maru
PC Kamitsu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
PT MTB 7, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT MTB 8
PT MTB 9, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT MTB 10
PT MTB 11, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT MTB 12, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
PT MTB 26
PT MTB 27, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
Ground combat at Guam
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2604 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!
Ground combat at Laoag
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 3226 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Laoag base !!!
Thankfully KB did not hit PH again. The destruction Tony did was massive as no fighters were left and many ships were torped and flooding. All ships had ops expenditures of 1000 so I was not going to try an evac the undamaged fast warships as they would be sitting ducks. Remeber the Allied damcon is off so some of the more badly damaged ships are hanging in the balance and a second attack may have been catastrophic.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 10
No Allied losses
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pescadores at 47,44
Japanese Ships
ML Hatsushima, Shell hits 4
ML Odate
ML Tateishi
ML Tsurushima, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet
ASW attack near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
Allied Ships
SS Salmon
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Sub attack near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese Ships
AK Yamagiku Maru
Allied Ships
SS Salmon
Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Haaburu Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 13
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8
Blenheim I x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Kinugawa Maru
AP Heiyo Maru
AK Meikai Maru
AP Yamato Maru
AK Nissyu Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hukuei Maru
AK Sado Maru
AK Taketoyo Maru
AK Kenyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Aobasan Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,45,
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Yellow Sea
AP President Harrison, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,45
Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Ben Nevis
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,46
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Chekiang, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 42,43
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Haraldsvang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
TK Ebonol, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Taiping, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,47
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18
Ki-48-I Lily x 9
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Bangkok
AK Kalgan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,46
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
AK Kiangsu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 48,43
Japanese aircraft
D1A Susie x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Fleeing Yellow Sea
AK Morazan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D1A Susie bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,47
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Yellow Sea
AK Norse Carrier, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,45
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
DM Thracian, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,45
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G3M Nell x 31
Ki-27 Nate x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships:Fleeing Hong Kong
ML Redstart, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships: Fleeing Hong Kong
DD Thanet
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Nenohi
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
ML Hatsutaka
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 45,54
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Minryo Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Teikin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Hokuriku Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Awa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,55
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5N2 Kate x 28
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships: Near Leyte
AK Escalante R, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 42
Ki-27 Nate x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thanet
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 9
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
DD Scout, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat at 110,130 Near Tahiti
Japanese Ships
PG Aikoku Maru
PG Hokoku Maru
Allied Ships
AK Vincent, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat at 43,46 Between Hong Kong and Lingayen
Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Torpedo hits 1
APD Patrol Boat No. 1
APD Patrol Boat No. 2
PC Aso Maru
PC Kamitsu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
PT MTB 7, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT MTB 8
PT MTB 9, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT MTB 10
PT MTB 11, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT MTB 12, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
PT MTB 26
PT MTB 27, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
Ground combat at Guam
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2604 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!
Ground combat at Laoag
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 3226 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Laoag base !!!


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- Ron Saueracker
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Well, we are gradually moving along. Poor Tony is having a fit with some issues caused by the leader bug. I'll let him tell you because I don't know just how p----d off he is.[;)] These have been some action packed turns...thank gawd something pops up once in awhile which isn't a sub sighting![:D] At least a hundred subs sighted by air assets today...LOL. Laadeedum.
The RAF and RAAF are doing sterling work plastering the Singora Roads anchorage. No Kota Bahru landings yet but the PI jobs are proceeding along historical timelines.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41
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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
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TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
288 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 26,55 Off Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-165
Allied Ships
AK Kampar, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 84,73 Off Wake Is
Japanese Ships
PC Hakkaisan Maru
PC Fukui Maru
PC Daido Maru
PC Chokai Maru
AK Hirokawa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Triton
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Sub attack at 42,52 SW of Manila
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
AP Basilan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tagbilaran at 44,58
Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Kanlaon II, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat at 39,47 South of Hong Kong
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
AK Ben Nevis, Shell hits 2
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Night Time Surface Combat at 39,47 South of Hong Kong
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
AK Churruca, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
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The above bombardments were the gunboats stationed at Hong Kong.
Sub attack at 23,52 Off Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-121
Allied Ships
AO Pleiodon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bendigo
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TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Tagbilaran, 44,58
Japanese ground losses:
596 casualties reported
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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
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TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
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Sub attack at 34,64 Makassar Strait
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Sipirok, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 34,64 Makassar Strait
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Siaoe, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,38 SE of Tavoy
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
PG Cicala, Bomb hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
Cheeky bastards!
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G4M1 Betty x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
PG Moth, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48 S of Hong Kong
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Kiangsu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,43 Formosa Strait
Japanese aircraft
D1A Susie x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Morazan, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D1A Susie bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 29
E13A1 Jake x 8
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Antonio, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,59 Off Mindanao
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 10
B5N2 Kate x 10
E13A1 Jake x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Montanes, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mauban, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
A5M4 Claudes bombing at 2000 feet
B5N2 Kates launching torpedoes at 200 feet
E13A1 Jakes bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,59 Off Mindanao
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Mauban, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Bomb hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Blenheim I x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, heavy damage
AK Kansai Maru
AK Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Asakasan Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim Is bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Hakozake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Sub attack at 23,52 S of Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-121
Allied Ships
AK Mandar, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze
DD Okikaze
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
AK Muroran Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17120 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 35317 troops, 122 guns, 2 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)
Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Maple Leaf Forever...RahRah!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 35246 troops, 119 guns, 2 vehicles
Defending force 133934 troops, 614 guns, 50 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Legaspi
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 14792 troops, 84 guns, 11 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 342 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!
The RAF and RAAF are doing sterling work plastering the Singora Roads anchorage. No Kota Bahru landings yet but the PI jobs are proceeding along historical timelines.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41
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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
288 casualties reported
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 26,55 Off Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-165
Allied Ships
AK Kampar, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 84,73 Off Wake Is
Japanese Ships
PC Hakkaisan Maru
PC Fukui Maru
PC Daido Maru
PC Chokai Maru
AK Hirokawa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Triton
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Sub attack at 42,52 SW of Manila
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
AP Basilan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Tagbilaran at 44,58
Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Kanlaon II, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat at 39,47 South of Hong Kong
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
AK Ben Nevis, Shell hits 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat at 39,47 South of Hong Kong
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
AK Churruca, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The above bombardments were the gunboats stationed at Hong Kong.
Sub attack at 23,52 Off Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-121
Allied Ships
AO Pleiodon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bendigo
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TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Tagbilaran, 44,58
Japanese ground losses:
596 casualties reported
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 45,54
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 34,64 Makassar Strait
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Sipirok, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 34,64 Makassar Strait
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Siaoe, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,38 SE of Tavoy
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
PG Cicala, Bomb hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
Cheeky bastards!
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Day Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G4M1 Betty x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
PG Moth, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,48 S of Hong Kong
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Kiangsu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,43 Formosa Strait
Japanese aircraft
D1A Susie x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Morazan, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D1A Susie bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 29
E13A1 Jake x 8
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Antonio, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,59 Off Mindanao
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 10
B5N2 Kate x 10
E13A1 Jake x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Montanes, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mauban, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
A5M4 Claudes bombing at 2000 feet
B5N2 Kates launching torpedoes at 200 feet
E13A1 Jakes bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,59 Off Mindanao
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Mauban, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Bomb hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Blenheim I x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, heavy damage
AK Kansai Maru
AK Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Asakasan Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim Is bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Hakozake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Sub attack at 23,52 S of Singapore
Japanese Ships
SS I-121
Allied Ships
AK Mandar, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze
DD Okikaze
Allied Ships
SS S-37
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
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Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Naval bombardment of Hong Kong, at 43,42
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
AK Muroran Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17120 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 35317 troops, 122 guns, 2 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)
Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Maple Leaf Forever...RahRah!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 35246 troops, 119 guns, 2 vehicles
Defending force 133934 troops, 614 guns, 50 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Legaspi
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 14792 troops, 84 guns, 11 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 342 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!


Yammas from The Apo-Tiki Lounge. Future site of WITP AE benders! And then the s--t hit the fan
- Ron Saueracker
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
More intense action, and mainly bad news for the good guys. Good thing I am a sadist. Very good example of the CAP vs default uncoordinated strike vs TFs and LCUs this turn. One must assume that the Victoria Point Blenheims all took off as a squadron, yet because different TFs are in the hex, the split BEFORE CAP resolution and are treated as uncoordinated by default. Same shit happens vs multiple ground targets. Poor design.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41
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Sub attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Pillsbury
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on TF at 46,58
Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 7
Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 6 damaged
Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho
DD Natsushio
Aircraft Attacking:
PBY Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AP Luzon, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
842 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Ravnaas, Shell hits 4, on fire
Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Parcita, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Don Esteban, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 4
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
PT PT-31, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
PT PT-32, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT PT-41
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Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
AK Yoneyama Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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ASW attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
PC Taiko Maru
PC Okuyo Maru
PC Nanpo Maru
PC Keiko Maru
AK Isin Maru
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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TF 102 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)
Japanese Ships
DD Hato, Mine hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 46,58
Japanese Ships
CS Chitose, Torpedo hits 1
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Skipjack
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Sub attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 104th/C Division, at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x IL-4c bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed
Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Blenheim I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 10
B5N2 Kate x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 42,58
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5N2 Kate x 18
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AP Legazpi, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
398 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 10
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Panay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Blenheim I x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
Allied Ships
PT PT-33, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-34, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT PT-41
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Sub attack at 26,43
Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Ayanami
CL Sendai
Allied Ships
SS KXVII
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
162 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
PC Saiko Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Horai Maru, Shell hits 1
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 2
AP Shinkoku Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Astuga Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Edo Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Igasa Maru, Shell hits 2
Japanese ground losses:
1011 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 127974 troops, 612 guns, 49 vehicles
Defending force 35104 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 8
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)
Japanese ground losses:
2052 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 2
Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Vigan
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2200 troops, 0 guns, 38 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 84 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Vigan base !!!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 34745 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 130938 troops, 576 guns, 46 vehicles
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41
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Sub attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Pillsbury
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on TF at 46,58
Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 7
Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 6 damaged
Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho
DD Natsushio
Aircraft Attacking:
PBY Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AP Luzon, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
842 casualties reported
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Ravnaas, Shell hits 4, on fire
Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Parcita, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
AK Don Esteban, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 4
DD Suzukaze
Allied Ships
PT PT-31, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
PT PT-32, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT PT-41
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Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
AK Yoneyama Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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ASW attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
PC Taiko Maru
PC Okuyo Maru
PC Nanpo Maru
PC Keiko Maru
AK Isin Maru
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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TF 102 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)
Japanese Ships
DD Hato, Mine hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 46,58
Japanese Ships
CS Chitose, Torpedo hits 1
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Skipjack
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Sub attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
SS I-124
Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 104th/C Division, at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x IL-4c bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed
Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 damaged
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Blenheim I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 10
B5N2 Kate x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 42,58
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5N2 Kate x 18
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AP Legazpi, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
398 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 10
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Panay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Blenheim I x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 43,59
Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
Allied Ships
PT PT-33, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-34, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT PT-41
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Sub attack at 26,43
Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Ayanami
CL Sendai
Allied Ships
SS KXVII
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
162 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
PC Saiko Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Horai Maru, Shell hits 1
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 2
AP Shinkoku Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Astuga Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Edo Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Igasa Maru, Shell hits 2
Japanese ground losses:
1011 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 127974 troops, 612 guns, 49 vehicles
Defending force 35104 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 8
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)
Japanese ground losses:
2052 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 2
Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Vigan
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2200 troops, 0 guns, 38 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 84 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Vigan base !!!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 34745 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 130938 troops, 576 guns, 46 vehicles


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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
I believe you are playing the Allies, aren't you Ron? That would make you a masochist (likes being hurt), not a sadist (likes inflicting pain).
Oh, and I love how the PT boats, which one would assume would be trying to protect their own shipping, wait until the pair of IJN destroyers sink all the freighters before engaging. [8|]
Oh, and I love how the PT boats, which one would assume would be trying to protect their own shipping, wait until the pair of IJN destroyers sink all the freighters before engaging. [8|]
This game does not have a learning curve. It has a learning cliff.
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"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy
Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
ORIGINAL: dtravel
I believe you are playing the Allies, aren't you Ron? That would make you a masochist (likes being hurt), not a sadist (likes inflicting pain).
Oh, and I love how the PT boats, which one would assume would be trying to protect their own shipping, wait until the pair of IJN destroyers sink all the freighters before engaging. [8|]
Yeah! Notice during replay was they were reacting to the Japanese incursion yet somehow managed to get surprised! The combat routines are wanting to say the least. All verbal fluff and no cause/effect relationships at all. All leader based (wrongly...technology, weather, experience etc should count more and one individuals ratings...is this a boxing match or complicated interaction of human pros/cons), which of course is blown out of all sense with leaders disappearing and replacements with 0/0 values showing up at every opportunity.[X(]


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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
leaders disappearing and replacements with 0/0 values showing up at every opportunity.
It must be all the stress on the peacetime officers causing them to have heart attacks and drop over dead!![:'(][:D]
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
leaders disappearing and replacements with 0/0 values showing up at every opportunity.
It must be all the stress on the peacetime officers causing them to have heart attacks and drop over dead!![:'(][:D]
Even Japanese ones who eat the vaunted Okinawan diet are croaking on every bridge. Tony swears the invasion of the dot base, Tag something or other just north of Cagayan was a result of a leader bug...TF switched orders! Hmmm...I'd normally say bollocks, you moused the wrong destination point, but with this game anything is believable.[8D]
Notice all those troop loss counts as the IJN DDs went nuts at Cagayan? Phillipino troops! Reminds me of multiple ferry disasters, what?



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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Notice all those troop loss counts as the IJN DDs went nuts at Cagayan? Phillipino troops! Reminds me of multiple ferry disasters, what?
Maybe not. There was a thread a long time back saying that troops lost on ships never showed up in the VP count. AFAIK, this was never resolved.
Just thought i'd give you a bit more to get excited about.[:'(]
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
"Alright men. Board the transports, the Japs are only hours away! Normally I might risk surrender but we have a better chance being run down at sea as we do not know if we count towards the final victory...meaning...we may end up on some secluded tropical islet somewhere surrounded by Polynesian babes!"ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Notice all those troop loss counts as the IJN DDs went nuts at Cagayan? Phillipino troops! Reminds me of multiple ferry disasters, what?
Maybe not. There was a thread a long time back saying that troops lost on ships never showed up in the VP count. AFAIK, this was never resolved.
Just thought i'd give you a bit more to get excited about.[:'(]


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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
They were exactly where I put them, but they were set for "Do not Unload"[:@]TF switched orders! Hmmm...I'd normally say bollocks, you moused the wrong destination point, but with this game anything is believable
Coming or going?[;)]Notice all those troop loss counts as the IJN DDs went nuts at Cagayan? Phillipino troops!
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ORIGINAL: irrelevant
They were exactly where I put them, but they were set for "Do not Unload"[:@]TF switched orders! Hmmm...I'd normally say bollocks, you moused the wrong destination point, but with this game anything is believable
Oh, wow, that's what happenned? OK, makes sense. Dots or even land present in a hex selected as a destination, despite Do Not Unload orders will start to unload. Really annoying!!![:@] I was playing a game vs 2ndACR and was shipping a couple of base units from Sydney to Derby and selected a "waypoint" on the NW coast of OZ (otherwise the useless AI would have routed the convoy NE into harms way

) Unfortunately the hex I selected was a coastal hex and when the convoy got there it unloaded the poor bastards on some malarial infested section of equatorial Oz then continued on to the home base. I was not very attentive until I noticed the aircraft falling into disrepair. Most of the unit was lost to disruption and disease by the time I found them and picked them up.

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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
That is interesting, especially in light of the fact that when a transport TF reaches its destination, and that destination is a port, and it is set for "unload", half the time when you check it it is not "unloading", it is "idle".Dots or even land present in a hex selected as a destination, despite Do Not Unload orders will start to unload. Really annoying!!!
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Yet another thing we must babysit in an operational level game. This game is a job more than anything.[8D]ORIGINAL: irrelevant
That is interesting, especially in light of the fact that when a transport TF reaches its destination, and that destination is a port, and it is set for "unload", half the time when you check it it is not "unloading", it is "idle".Dots or even land present in a hex selected as a destination, despite Do Not Unload orders will start to unload. Really annoying!!!


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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
That is interesting, especially in light of the fact that when a transport TF reaches its destination, and that destination is a port, and it is set for "unload", half the time when you check it it is not "unloading", it is "idle".
I've had pretty good luck with this as long as it is NOT the home port of the TF. If it is, they sit idle. So usually i try to check on the convoy just as it is getting back to port, then turn off the "do not unload" and switch the home port to somewhere in the general direction of where i want the ships to go next.
RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
I probably have been setting destinations as home ports; in this game the lieutenants that are now OIC of most of my transport TFs have displayed a tendency to want to head to their home ports rather than to the destination I had given them. I'll have to keep that in mind.I've had pretty good luck with this as long as it is NOT the home port of the TF.
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
ORIGINAL: irrelevant
I probably have been setting destinations as home ports; in this game the lieutenants that are now OIC of most of my transport TFs have displayed a tendency to want to head to their home ports rather than to the destination I had given them. I'll have to keep that in mind.I've had pretty good luck with this as long as it is NOT the home port of the TF.
Damn Warrant Officer 0/0's!![:D]
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
196 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Saiko Maru, Shell hits 3
Japanese ground losses:
582 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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ASW attack at 46,60 E of Mindanao
Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 46,60
Japanese Ships
CS Chitose (burning from Skipjacks hit yesterday)
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 4
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 45,54
Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 7
Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Numakaze
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
Aircraft Attacking:
PBY Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 26,44 Off Singora
Japanese Ships
AK Hukuyo Maru
PC Ch 8
PC Eiko Maru
Allied Ships
SS KXI
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ASW attack at 25,43 Off Singora
Japanese Ships
AP Santos Maru
AP Nitta Maru
AP Tsunushima Maru
PC Hashidate
PC Ch 7
PC Ch 9
PC Chosa Maru
Allied Ships
SS KXII
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ASW attack at 46,60
Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 34,46 Off Camrhan Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Murasame
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
93 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Shinwa Maru
Japanese ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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ASW attack at 35,46 Off Camrhan Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Ikazuchi
Allied Ships
SS Pickerel
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Day Air attack on Cagayan , at 43,59
Japanese aircraft
H6K4 Mavis x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37 SE of Tavoy
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-30 Ann x 33
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,45
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
This was sweet...slam those even more precious transports baby!
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 8
Buffalo I x 26
Vildebeest IV x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Higashiyama Maru
AP Syoka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Sakura Maru
AP Ayatosan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kashiwara Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Hakozaki Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Atutasan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 7
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Magallanes
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Roxas at 43,55
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 29
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Parcita, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Overkill or what[;)]
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Sub attack at 40,58 North of Jolo
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 46,60 Off Mindanao
Japanese Ships
DD Natsushio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 46,58 Off Mindanao
Japanese Ships
AK Muroran Maru, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Skipjack
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ASW attack at 36,55 Off Palawan
Japanese Ships
SS I-123
Allied Ships
MSW Whippoorwill
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6872 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 34673 troops, 111 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 31330 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 131518 troops, 588 guns, 46 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 21074 troops, 95 guns, 2 vehicles
Defending force 22988 troops, 79 guns, 16 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
The action continues at a feverish pace. The RAF and RAAF units in Malaya have been surprisingly effective attacking shipping off Singora. By not attacking Kota Bahru Irrelevant has left Force Z with nothing to do but guzzle Pink Gins and bang the locals while in port.
The air ASW model continues to be irksome. Subs have been hit by air attacks every turn since Dec 7th and I believe I am about to lose a third sub to this nonsense. About 90% of all Allied subs are being spotted each phase. Hellooooo, subs generally stay submerged during daylight in enemy waters.[8|]
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
196 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Saiko Maru, Shell hits 3
Japanese ground losses:
582 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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ASW attack at 46,60 E of Mindanao
Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 46,60
Japanese Ships
CS Chitose (burning from Skipjacks hit yesterday)
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 4
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 45,54
Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 7
Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Numakaze
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
Aircraft Attacking:
PBY Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 26,44 Off Singora
Japanese Ships
AK Hukuyo Maru
PC Ch 8
PC Eiko Maru
Allied Ships
SS KXI
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ASW attack at 25,43 Off Singora
Japanese Ships
AP Santos Maru
AP Nitta Maru
AP Tsunushima Maru
PC Hashidate
PC Ch 7
PC Ch 9
PC Chosa Maru
Allied Ships
SS KXII
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ASW attack at 46,60
Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 34,46 Off Camrhan Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Murasame
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
93 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Shinwa Maru
Japanese ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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ASW attack at 35,46 Off Camrhan Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Ikazuchi
Allied Ships
SS Pickerel
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Day Air attack on Cagayan , at 43,59
Japanese aircraft
H6K4 Mavis x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37 SE of Tavoy
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 29,37
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-30 Ann x 33
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,45
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Ume Maru, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
This was sweet...slam those even more precious transports baby!
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 8
Buffalo I x 26
Vildebeest IV x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Higashiyama Maru
AP Syoka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Sakura Maru
AP Ayatosan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kashiwara Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Hakozaki Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Atutasan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 7
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dumaguete at 42,57
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Magallanes
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Roxas at 43,55
Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 29
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Parcita, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Overkill or what[;)]
Aircraft Attacking:
B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singora , at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Sub attack at 40,58 North of Jolo
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 46,60 Off Mindanao
Japanese Ships
DD Natsushio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon
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Sub attack at 46,58 Off Mindanao
Japanese Ships
AK Muroran Maru, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Skipjack
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ASW attack at 36,55 Off Palawan
Japanese Ships
SS I-123
Allied Ships
MSW Whippoorwill
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6872 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 34673 troops, 111 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 31330 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 131518 troops, 588 guns, 46 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 21074 troops, 95 guns, 2 vehicles
Defending force 22988 troops, 79 guns, 16 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
The action continues at a feverish pace. The RAF and RAAF units in Malaya have been surprisingly effective attacking shipping off Singora. By not attacking Kota Bahru Irrelevant has left Force Z with nothing to do but guzzle Pink Gins and bang the locals while in port.
The air ASW model continues to be irksome. Subs have been hit by air attacks every turn since Dec 7th and I believe I am about to lose a third sub to this nonsense. About 90% of all Allied subs are being spotted each phase. Hellooooo, subs generally stay submerged during daylight in enemy waters.[8|]


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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
The air ASW model continues to be irksome. Subs have been hit by air attacks every turn since Dec 7th and I believe I am about to lose a third sub to this nonsense. About 90% of all Allied subs are being spotted each phase. Hellooooo, subs generally stay submerged during daylight in enemy waters.[8|]
But, Ron [X(]! Surely you knew that submerging a sub without sinking it was a highly complex and demanding job that took hours to accomplish and could only be performed by the most experienced crews trained specifically in the process.
[:D]
This game does not have a learning curve. It has a learning cliff.
"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy
Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy
Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Precisely my intention.[:)]By not attacking Kota Bahru Irrelevant has left Force Z with nothing to do but guzzle Pink Gins and bang the locals while in port.
Fear the kitten!
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RE: Irrelevant (Tony S) vs Impertinent (Ron S): Farting around...
Sort of a bread and butter kind of day. Not too much out of the ordinary except......those darn recon boys can find a sub, every sub in their sector, every day but can they get an ID right? Nope. Those two forlorn gunboats, one RN one USN) got cocky and decided to play with a two AKs at Kowloon. Supplise! (spelling wrong for effect![:D]) Japanese CL Isuzu is the AK identified yesterday, or may not have been spotted at all...it is not one of those easily seen subs don't ya know! Poor gin drinkers...Cicala got a 6" PENETRATING HIT ON ISUZU BUT THAT WAS IT.[:(]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/12/41
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
Japanese ground losses:
310 casualties reported
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,39
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43 There has always been a bug when multiple airgroups are used at night. This is still awaiting a fix. I don't know if the bug preventing night fighters from performing is still there either (used to cause CTDs as well).
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet What, no Wirraways?
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Canton at 43,41
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
PG Tutuila, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Canton at 43,41
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
PG Cicala, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat at 45,53 E of Naga
Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Okikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Numakaze
Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 43,59
Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
DD Umikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
CL Nagara
Allied ground losses:
789 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 3
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 31,46 SW of Saigon
Japanese Ships
AP Koan Maru
AK Johore Maru
PC Ch 8
PC Eiko Maru
Allied Ships
SS Permit
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Sub attack near Muntok at 21,55
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
AK Dayak, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 27,55 NE of Kuching
Japanese Ships
SS I-164
Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 31,46 SW of Saigon
Japanese Ships
PC Kongosan Maru
PC Aso Maru
APD Patrol Boat No. 2
APD Patrol Boat No. 1
Allied Ships
SS Permit
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Brigade, at 43,59
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Aircraft Attacking:
B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 26,40
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 11
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-30 Ann x 33
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,43
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Akatsuki
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
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Sub attack at 27,55 NE of Kuching
Japanese Ships
SS I-164
Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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ASW attack at 34,46 SE of Camranh Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, on fire
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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ASW attack at 34,46 SE of Camranh Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 112290 troops, 579 guns, 48 vehicles
Defending force 34786 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
Japanese ground losses:
1637 casualties reported
Guns lost 31
Vehicles lost 2
Allied ground losses:
727 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17414 troops, 61 guns, 16 vehicles
Defending force 22851 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese ground losses:
899 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
Allied ground losses:
109 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 30595 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 125172 troops, 546 guns, 46 vehicles
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 20293 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 25212 troops, 57 guns, 15 vehicles
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Ground combat at 47,36
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17246 troops, 84 guns, 5 vehicles
Defending force 14400 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
373 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/12/41
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
Japanese ground losses:
310 casualties reported
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,39
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Night Air attack on Singora , at 24,43 There has always been a bug when multiple airgroups are used at night. This is still awaiting a fix. I don't know if the bug preventing night fighters from performing is still there either (used to cause CTDs as well).
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4
Blenheim IF x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IF bombing at 2000 feet What, no Wirraways?
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Canton at 43,41
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
Allied Ships
PG Tutuila, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Canton at 43,41
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
PG Cicala, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat at 45,53 E of Naga
Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Okikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Numakaze
Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 43,59
Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
DD Umikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
CL Nagara
Allied ground losses:
789 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 3
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Coastal Guns at Cagayan, 43,59, firing at TF 44
TF 44 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 43,59
20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 31,46 SW of Saigon
Japanese Ships
AP Koan Maru
AK Johore Maru
PC Ch 8
PC Eiko Maru
Allied Ships
SS Permit
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Sub attack near Muntok at 21,55
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
AK Dayak, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 27,55 NE of Kuching
Japanese Ships
SS I-164
Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 31,46 SW of Saigon
Japanese Ships
PC Kongosan Maru
PC Aso Maru
APD Patrol Boat No. 2
APD Patrol Boat No. 1
Allied Ships
SS Permit
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Brigade, at 43,59
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Aircraft Attacking:
B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 26,40
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 11
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-30 Ann x 33
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,43
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Akatsuki
Aircraft Attacking:
Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
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Sub attack at 27,55 NE of Kuching
Japanese Ships
SS I-164
Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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ASW attack at 34,46 SE of Camranh Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Sub attack near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, on fire
Allied Ships
SS S-37
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ASW attack at 34,46 SE of Camranh Bay
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
SS Porpoise
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 112290 troops, 579 guns, 48 vehicles
Defending force 34786 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
Japanese ground losses:
1637 casualties reported
Guns lost 31
Vehicles lost 2
Allied ground losses:
727 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17414 troops, 61 guns, 16 vehicles
Defending force 22851 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese ground losses:
899 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
Allied ground losses:
109 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 30595 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 125172 troops, 546 guns, 46 vehicles
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Ground combat at Cagayan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 20293 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 25212 troops, 57 guns, 15 vehicles
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Ground combat at 47,36
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 17246 troops, 84 guns, 5 vehicles
Defending force 14400 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
373 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


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