Immortal PZB vs Bwheatley

[bwheatley]

My TB's did me proud today! I was just moving the langly to palmyra to refuel and it appears i spotted a mini invasion force there. I managed to bang it up pretty good and i'm going to head 3 hexs SE that should put me in range to hit it again next turn and also keep me out of sprint range of the fast movers at Johnston. I took a screeny of the sitrep will post in a sec.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/17/26

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Sub attack near Johnston Island at 102,74

Japanese Ships
BC Kirishima
DD No. 12
DD No. 10
DD No.17
DD No.15

Allied Ships
SS R-2

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Sub attack at 103,74

Japanese Ships
CL Tsushima
DD Momi
DD Maki
DD Keyaki
DD No. 16
DD Shimakaze

Allied Ships
SS R-8

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Day Air attack on TF at 102,79


Allied aircraft
Curtiss F6C-1 Hawk x 11
Martin SC-1 x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AD Shirogane
AP Haruna Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Ayanami, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 102,79


Allied aircraft
Curtiss F6C-1 Hawk x 11
Martin SC-1 x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AD Shirogane
AP Haruna Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Ayanami, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack near Johnston Island at 102,74

Japanese Ships
DD No.5
DD No. 28
DD No. 25
DD No. 23

Allied Ships
SS R-2


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 83680 troops, 428 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 40196 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
304 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22408 troops, 185 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 124420 troops, 430 guns, 49 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2


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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4366 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1035 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported

[bwheatley]

You can see the SUb screen in place. Also where the langly intercepted the ships. If we close into battle i am not too worried the langely has a few 16 inchers with her to help keep her safe.

In the west coast i approved teh 15th (?) cst CD unit to ship out it left mare today should be to lahaina in a week or so. I'm hoping we can keep him delayed enough that it will help. If not i will land them at pearl. 18 255 Howitzers

[bwheatley]

I would rather have hit that AD though since its more valuable out here. But i will say that msw was valuable japan only starts with a handful of them and i'm hoping next turn to really smack around the AD. i'd rather take out the AD then the AP

whatever fits into 1 AP can't be that valuable but that AD can refuel hundreds and thousands of torpedoes which will sink my bb's fast

I was thinking of turning my bb ships for another raid but for now they will retire to PH.

I don't want to push my luck and be so far away from PH that i can't be saved.

[bwheatley]

Yes you read right Johns sneaky move to put troops into bataan has sealed the fate of 53,000 men. Without a place to retreat the men gave up hope and threw down their arms. The 15th Us RGT that landed at bataan is waiting for pickup to get the hell outta town. In another flash i didn't find those transports again i guess they went off to another location. I will keep langly around Palmyra in the hopes of dinging him up a bit more. John has made me think he plans not to take the hawiaan islands. But i think he wouldnt come all the way out with AO's without a plan to take kona or hilo.

There are 900 mines at lahaina now.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/18/26

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ASW attack at 102,73

Japanese Ships
DD Sumire
DD Hishi
DD Ashi
DD Nashi
DD Nire
BB Ise

Allied Ships
SS R-9

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Sub attack near Johnston Island at 102,74

Japanese Ships
DD Hishi
DD Sumire
DD Ashi
DD Nashi
DD Nire

Allied Ships
SS R-2

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TF 18 encounters mine field at Laysan Island (100,64)

TF 18 troops unloading over beach at Laysan Island, 100,64


Japanese Ships
DD No. 8, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Japanese ground losses:
339 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 124577 troops, 435 guns, 25 vehicles

Defending force 40303 troops, 206 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
3673 casualties reported
Guns lost 52
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
52812 casualties reported
Guns lost 164


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Ground combat at Laysan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1088 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 66 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Laysan Island base !!!



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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4334 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1050 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[bwheatley]

The US govt has asked the british for a fast transport fleet to remove the 15th US rgt from bataan and the british govt has agreed.

The fleet will evac the troops from bataan and will not engage japanese vessels unless engaged first.

If he tries anything funny i have 2 BB & a BC there to change his mind.

[bwheatley]

The US govt has asked the british for a fast transport fleet to remove the 15th US rgt from bataan and the british govt has agreed.

The fleet will evac the troops from bataan and will not engage japanese vessels unless engaged first.

If he tries anything funny i have 2 BB & a BC there to change his mind.

[bwheatley]

From John `
Carrier battle - 1 ac lost. Your 'superior' range almost won you the
day. Hm, didn't know
you had ac with a range of a whopping 2 hexes :p)
`
Yup i moved langly north to find that AD and came 2 hexes away from 4 nip cv's that were looking to find me!! Yikes. And an assortment of other heavy ships. I guess my intel showing his main fleet in Johnston was inaccurate. Weell no dice my boys came up close but no cigar. 1 AC lost.

I'm pulling back to palmyra at flank speed. I know he has his eyes on taking it so i can hopefully get back to palmyra and refuel and bug out towards rabaul until the situation blows over. I have my doubts about the path from Palmyra to PH being clear enough to sail through. This is the only CV i get for the better part of a year. And i didn't know all his AC only had 1 hex range until he told me. Thats a big advantage i can use for scouting. I don't want to lose it. I know hes coming in for HILO/KONA/LAHANIA at least. Because there is no reason to bring AO's out unless you want to party.

If he comes at kona we can have a BB screen jump in and wallop him and then jump out again.

It sucks how retirement is auto night fight. It should be that you can set it retire/day retire/night. I would like to have a day attack and then disengage without having to give up my day fighting ability. If i do no retire i'll be picked to pieces.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/19/26

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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS No. 39, hits 1

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty
DD Boggs
DD Buchanan
DD Jacob Jones
DD Babbitt
DD Dent
DD Rathburne
DD Crane
DD Evans
DD Philip
DD Wickes

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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS No. 39

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby

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Day Air attack on TF at 103,76

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 12

Allied aircraft
Curtiss F6C-1 Hawk x 11
Martin SC-1 x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Martin SC-1: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Hosho
CV Shokaku

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,76

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 12

Allied aircraft
Curtiss F6C-1 Hawk x 11
Martin SC-1 x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Curtiss F6C-1 Hawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta
CL Jintsu

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Martin SC-1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS No. 39

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS No. 58

Allied Ships
MSW Sandpiper
MSW Ortolan
MSW Auk


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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1820 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 993 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

[bwheatley]

Sneaky john put a minefield at PH which was quickly fixed.
He took baker it looks like he will take all US islands for me to have to retake. A sound strategy.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/22/26

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 1

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty
DD Boggs
DD Buchanan
DD Jacob Jones
DD Babbitt
DD Dent
DD Rathburne
DD Crane
DD Evans
DD Philip
DD Wickes

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TF 59 troops unloading over beach at Baker Island, 94,92


Japanese ground losses:
428 casualties reported

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TF 59 troops unloading over beach at Baker Island, 94,92


Japanese ground losses:
420 casualties reported

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TF 1079 encounters mine field at Pearl Harbor (112,68)

Allied Ships
MSW Eider
MSW Partridge
MSW Oriole
MSW Cardinal

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 1

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 1

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 1

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 4

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 4

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty


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Ground combat at Bataan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 93482 troops, 397 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1810 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese assault odds: 1410 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1002 casualties reported
Guns lost 15


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Ground combat at Baker Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3948 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Baker Island base !!!

[bwheatley]

Gmae of cat and mouse i tried an intercept and then he moved East a bit but a hell of a fleet i'll post a pic.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/23/26

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ASW attack at 108,67

Japanese Ships
SS No. 26

Allied Ships
DD Wasmuth
DD Trever

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ASW attack at 109,70

Japanese Ships
DD No. 18
DD No. 6
DD Nokaze

Allied Ships
SS R-4

[bwheatley]

That first fleet is his 4 Cvs with some BB's
The 2nd fleet is alot of CA's & BB's and TK"s he has some BB's guarding them too. So this time my fleets you see are 1 fleet of 2 BC and then 2 fleets of 4 BB's 1 fleet is 16 inchers 1 is 14 inchers. We're going for a night intercept in the current hex of the CV's. Hopefully we can hit something at the night and then retire to PH at flank speed.

[bwheatley]

Oh also sending out a fleet of 20 DD's with a VERY AGGRESSIVE CO for a night attack. Hopefully i can put alot of fish into the enemy.

[bwheatley]

Jhohn lost 5 BB/BC
5 CA
and 6-7 DD's

He was not happy i will post our conversation later.
I think he did what i did in my other game. He fought the allies on their terms. When i started to switch to gurilla attacks i was able to sink his battleships. I have 5 bb's with over 50+ damage. But i lost 2 DD's the whole battle .





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/24/26

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ASW attack at 109,70

Japanese Ships
DD Nadakaze

Allied Ships
SS R-4

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ASW attack at 109,70

Japanese Ships
DD Nadakaze

Allied Ships
SS R-4

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ASW attack at 109,70

Japanese Ships
DD Momi
DD Maki
DD Keyaki
DD No. 16
DD Shimakaze

Allied Ships
SS R-4

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Sub attack at 101,73

Japanese Ships
AP Haruna Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS R-7

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Sub attack at 101,73

Japanese Ships
AP Haruna Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS R-7

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69

Allied Ships
DD Evans
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty
DD Boggs
DD Buchanan
DD Jacob Jones
DD Babbitt
DD Dent
DD Rathburne
DD Crane
DD Philip
DD Wickes

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69

Allied Ships
DD Evans
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell
DD Ward
DD Kennison
DD Kilty
DD Boggs
DD Buchanan
DD Jacob Jones
DD Babbitt
DD Dent
DD Rathburne
DD Crane
DD Philip
DD Wickes

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
CL Chitose, Shell hits 1
CL Tone, Shell hits 1
CL Sendai
DD Nire, Shell hits 1
DD Nashi
DD Ashi, Shell hits 2
DD Hishi, Shell hits 2
DD Sumire, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 2
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Washington, Shell hits 1
DD Williams
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay
DD Barry

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
CL Chitose, Shell hits 1
CL Tone, Shell hits 1
CL Sendai
DD Nire, Shell hits 1
DD Nashi
DD Ashi, Shell hits 2
DD Hishi, Shell hits 2
DD Sumire, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 2
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Washington, Shell hits 1
DD Williams
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay
DD Barry

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso
CL Chitose, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tone
CL Sendai
DD Nire
DD Nashi
DD Ashi, Shell hits 1
DD Hishi, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Sumire, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 3
BB North Carolina
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Washington, Shell hits 6
DD Williams, Shell hits 1
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay, Shell hits 1
DD Barry, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso
CL Chitose, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tone
CL Sendai
DD Nire
DD Nashi
DD Ashi, Shell hits 1
DD Hishi, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Sumire, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 3
BB North Carolina
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Washington, Shell hits 6
DD Williams, Shell hits 1
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay, Shell hits 1
DD Barry, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1
BB Settsu, Shell hits 1
CA Iwate
CA Asama
CL Tsushima, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shimakaze
DD No. 16
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 1
DD Maki
DD Momi

Allied Ships
BB California, Shell hits 1
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 5
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 3
DD Hazelwood
DD Lea
DD Lamberton, Shell hits 1
DD Radford, Shell hits 5, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 2
BB Settsu, Shell hits 1
CA Iwate, Shell hits 3
CA Asama, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tsushima, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shimakaze
DD No. 16
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Maki, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Momi

Allied Ships
BB California, Shell hits 3
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 3
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 1
DD Hazelwood
DD Lea, Shell hits 2
DD Lamberton
DD Radford, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Tosa, Shell hits 1
BB Kaga
BC Hiei
BC Haruna, Shell hits 1
CL Oi
CL Natori, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No.7
DD No.9, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD No.11

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 7, on fire
BC Saratoga, Shell hits 1
DD Trever, Shell hits 2
DD Wasmuth

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Tosa
BB Kaga, Shell hits 3
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2
BC Haruna
CL Oi
CL Natori, on fire
DD No.7
DD No.9, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD No.11, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB California
BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi
DD Hazelwood
DD Lea
DD Lamberton
DD Radford, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Tosa, Shell hits 7
BB Kaga
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BC Haruna
CL Oi
CL Natori, on fire, heavy damage
DD No.7, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No.9, and is sunk
DD No.11, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, on fire
BC Saratoga, Shell hits 6
DD Trever
DD Wasmuth, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 12, on fire
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1, on fire
BC Kirishima
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD No.15
DD No.17
DD No. 10

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
BB Colorado
BB Washington
DD Williams, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay
DD Barry, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 12, on fire
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1, on fire
BC Kirishima
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD No.15
DD No.17
DD No. 10

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
BB Colorado
BB Washington
DD Williams, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Talbot
DD Ramsay
DD Barry, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 8, on fire
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BC Kirishima, Shell hits 2
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD No.15, Shell hits 2
DD No.17
DD No. 10

Allied Ships
BB California, Shell hits 1
BB Tennessee
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi
DD Hazelwood
DD Lea, Shell hits 1
DD Lamberton
DD Radford, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BC Kongo, on fire, heavy damage
BC Kirishima
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
DD No.15
DD No.17, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 10

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 2, on fire
BC Saratoga
DD Trever
DD Wasmuth, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat at 109,70

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Heinkel HD25: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
BC Kongo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
BC Kirishima, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu, Shell hits 7
DD No.15, Shell hits 2
DD No.17, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 10, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB North Carolina
BB Colorado
BB Washington, Shell hits 1
DD Williams, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Talbot, Shell hits 5
DD Ramsay
DD Barry, on fire

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Coastal Guns at Cebu Island, 42,58, firing at TF 70
TF 70 troops unloading over beach at Cebu Island, 42,58


60 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Saiho Maru
AP Daitei Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hagi, Shell hits 5
AP Ujigawa Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Tama Maru

Japanese ground losses:
766 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Cebu Island, 42,58, firing at TF 70
TF 70 troops unloading over beach at Cebu Island, 42,58


55 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Saiho Maru
DD Hagi, Shell hits 2
DD Sugi
DD No. 2, Shell hits 1
AP Shuko Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
629 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Sub attack at 109,69

Japanese Ships
AO Ondo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nadakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-26

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Day Air attack on TF at 109,69

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 14

Allied aircraft
de Havilland DH-4 x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
de Havilland DH-4: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AO Ondo, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 109,69

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 14

Allied aircraft
de Havilland DH-4 x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
de Havilland DH-4: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kii
BB Owari
BC Amagi, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 109,69

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 14

Allied aircraft
de Havilland DH-4 x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
de Havilland DH-4: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Owari

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 109,69

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 14

Allied aircraft
de Havilland DH-4 x 16

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x de Havilland DH-4 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 109,70

Japanese aircraft
Mitsubishi 1MF3 x 12
Mitsubishi B1M1 x 12
Mitsubishi B1M2 x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Mitsubishi B1M1: 2 damaged
Mitsubishi B1M2: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Roper
DD Laub
DD McDermut
DD Upshur
DD Breese, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Montgomery

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Mitsubishi B1M1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Mitsubishi B1M2 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Mitsubishi B1M1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Mitsubishi B1M1 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Mitsubishi B1M2 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Mitsubishi B1M2 launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 69, hits 2

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager
DD Decatur
DD Corry
DD Morris
DD Long
DD Howard
DD Renshaw
DD Mackenzie
DD Crosby
DD Thatcher
DD Greer
DD Tarbell

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5)

Allied Ships
MSW Pelican
MSW Kingfisher

[bwheatley]

Posted in order
From John

You're right...I was sailing towards PH to engage you in a decisive battle.
I had no intentions about invading PH - defeating the Pacific Fleet
would be hard enough.

Seems like you were keen on engaging my fleet as well cause we clashed
big time today : )
Our fleet were very evenly matched, both in numbers and force composition.
Great I thought, perfect - nothing better than a series of exciting and
decisive battles!

Unfortunately the night battles were extremely one sided and unbalanced.
I lost score of ships including
5 of my best battleships/cruisers!! I merely managed to damage a couple
of your bb's. I didn't even
care to watch the battles as my ships didn't hit anything...( If the
game got an Allied bias in surface
battles and Japan can't beat an evenly matched US fleet now they never
will...

This is a bit unfortunate since it means the end of Jap expansion: I
will sail back and fortify every
single island between the PI and PH. So no invasion of China or war with
Britain. I'm a bit afraid
that there may be many quiet turns to come.

I will of course continue but I'm a bit dissappointed in how the game
simulated todays battles - and
that will most likely not increase my enthusiasm for WPO : - \

[bwheatley]

To John
send the turn
Yea i have found that night battles are teh real way to hurt someone. If we battled in day combat then we would have both been hurt badly. I learned the night attack tricks when billy was hitting me hard at night.

Its all about the leaders though i think aggression does crap. I go for commanders with HIGH naval skill becuase that seems to carry the day for me.

Night attacks really can go either way. If you had been the one to jump on me and caught me offguard it would have been slaughter on the high seas for me.

No worries my friend. In my game vs general billy i've lost 90% of my fleet down to 7 CA/CL and 5BB 2BC. I learned ALOT. I think there are some good naval fights to be had but you really have to understand the dynamics of ship to ship combat since its all ships and no planes. I was hoping my sub screen would tear you up too but i probably engaged you a few hexes outside the subs .

I was jumping at the hex for your CV's did i hit them? I didnt see them moving i wanted to hit and run your CV fleet and retreate i did not want to engage your BB's because they are dangerous.

Though in night battles defense it is not always 1 side smacks the other. But it seems that getting in close in a night battle is the only way to really have a decisive battle in 1 fight. If you only lost 5 BB/CA then you are lucky you still have a potent fleet you just have to wait for the right time. seriously i'll send you teh list of shit i lost with general billy. I was down to just 2 BB's and i started to fight smarter with night hits and i finally started to sink some of his ships.

I really wish there was a retire/day retire/night though. Sometimes i want a day fight but i want to retire afterwards instead of standing up and getting spanked. You only have so many shells

[bwheatley]

From John

Oops forgot to attach the file!

You didn't engage my carriers - they were one hex away.
The night battles were fought on neutral turf and I had my best naval
commanders - surprised your fleets several times to no avail.
Didn't hit anything!

So I must admit that if I were to repeat the procedure I wouldn't know
what to do different....

[bwheatley]

To John

In every night round you didnt get any good shots in? I've seen that as the US where japan got me the first round and just fucked my guys up and i did 3 other rounds and i just didnt get anythign right. It seems like the commanders get all shaken up from that first round and for the rest of that day they really suck at everything.

For best commanders though i always ignore aggression and make sure i have Good naval skill. Tanaka is a good commander because he is very aggressive with high naval skill but the other high leadership japs leaders are so so. in my experience anyway.

[bwheatley]

From John

As far as I'm concerned you got your opponents by the ears if you
surprise them..if your ships then fail to score hits then there's something
else that's not optimal. Tanaka and Yamamoto are both good leaders,
can't remember the others but they all had decent naval skills. My
fleets had
more escorts than you did - but that shouldn't be a disadvantage.
Perhaps the game was made that way, but that doesn't make much sense either?

Something's just not feeling right about this! Possible that I've not
played enough WPO but the results were just too weird. If only one of my
fleets
had managed to defeat one of yours - but they didn't. 2 battlecruisers
and 2 destroyers against my best battleships and battlecruisers - they
should have
been shot to pieces.

[bwheatley]

To John


ahh that fleet had 2 bc each with 35K speed so they are uber manuverable. also they had high skill low aggression guys.
I"m about to watch combat now. i'm guessing the BC came in fired for a few minutes and then bailed out instead of stinking around for the kill blow. Thats how i like my commanders to be. Aggressive guys stay around too long and wind up using all your ammon and gett killed

Tanker put up a topic on the forum about fleet comp.

4 BB 4 DD in a BB fleet
4 CA 4 DD in a CA fleet

so i try to follow that anymore then 8 ships he says you dont get the same bang for your buck.

I dont know how you laid your fleets out but i would try that. Dont give up this game is really great and i know you will rebound
you're probably just sending this to get me thinking i have you and then you'll spring a trap on me...i wont fall for it

[bwheatley]

To John


Also i noticed ship calibur i only sent in my 16 inch ships ALL of them were 16 inch but a couple that were 14 inch.

Your bb's Hugua are 35CM which is 14inchs. YOu should use all your 41 (16inch) cm ships when you can.

It doesnt really matter in a night fight but it does count for damage the blows you got were just glancing. my 16inchers really tore through you though.

[bwheatley]

From JOhn

I've heard about the 8 ship rule and I don't very much like 'absolutes'.
Why should night combat be so different from WitP? They've not even
cared to come up with new leaders - they're using the same.

I actually hit and damaged one of your bc's - slowed it down - but 95%
of the shots missed.
Afraid I'm not going to return anytime soon with 9 operational modern
battleships. So until you gather enough divisions for a decivise counter
attack
there will only be minor skirmishes.