Our CA/DD group got no action this turn, the enemy tanker group went right through us ( a feature of the system - this happens a little too often - but that is the way it works ) we will try again next time - it is possible to get intercepts, I've done it many times in WITP ...
We have a CL/DD group topping off which will join the CA/DD group east of Eniwetok .. at this point with their dreadnoughts at Eniwetok that spot is not a good place for our small surface groups so we will continue hunting the supply ships.
Our dreadnought BB group ( 5 ) is still steaming east to rendevous with the AO group.
Our BC group ( with 60% ammo ) is still steaming north to the same spot.
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What is that shifted-meatball--jap-flag mod you are using? [:)]
Nice AAR, btw. Think you spent less time on actual turns... [:)]
Diffferent flag is for other ( hypothetical ) scenario I'm working on - I guess I need to go ahead and create separate install for development ( like I did for WITP ) to prevent this from interferring with on going games.... will do so .. thanks !
Sorry for bad play - I'll try to do better ! [&o][&o]
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Diffferent flag is for other ( hypothetical ) scenario I'm working on - I guess I need to go ahead and create separate install for development ( like I did for WITP ) to prevent this from interferring with on going games.... will do so .. thanks !
Does it has any historical background in that "highly historical" game? [:)]
Sorry for bad play - I'll try to do better ! [&o][&o]
Well, your score ratio is 10:1. I can't call it bad. [;)] After taking all Luzon I have just 3:1 in stock scen8...
Well, your score ratio is 10:1. I can't call it bad. After taking all Luzon I have just 3:1 in stock scen8...
I think I should try your mod as well
Scores between stock#7 and Cautionaries scenario cannot be compared .. the VP values of the PI hexes have been increased 5-fold for US in Cautionaries. The reason is in Cautionaries we wanted to place more emphasis on the importance of US retaking the PI ... once the US starts retaking PI hexes large amounts of VP will both come off the Japanese total AND be added to the US total .. so the relative scores will change quickly ( as they did when I captured Luzon ) ...
But I must capture Bataan pretty soon or it will be embarrasing !!
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Well our CA/DD group to patrolling to the east of Eniwetok, failed to break through the ASW screen ... of whatever was being screened ... but they did engage it ...
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And we got one of the pesky minesweepers ( it sank afterwards ) with a sub ... oh boy oh boy ... !!! Not exactly a dreadnought ... but we will take what we can get at this point ... [:D]
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TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)
Allied Ships
MSW Kingfisher
MSW Brant
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TF 101 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) We are dropping off a 36 AV BF and picking up the 10th Div to go to Luzon.
Japanese Ships
AP Sunten Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
AP Tenzan Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
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Sub attack near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
SS No. 45
Allied Ships
MSW Kingfisher
MSW Brant
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Sub attack at 82,74
Japanese Ships
SS U-46 (O2)
Allied Ships
DD Hopkins
DD Thornton
DD Barry
DD Reuben James
DD Truxton
DD John D. Ford
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope
DD Stewart
DD Elliot
DD Yarnall
DD Tarbell
DD Philip
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Night Time Surface Combat at 80,74
Japanese Ships
CA Iwate, Shell hits 2
CA Asama
CA Tokiwa
CA Yakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Maki
DD Kiri
DD Sugi
Allied Ships
DD Lea, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Radford, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Babbitt, Shell hits 1
DD Roper
DD Bulmer
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Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51
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Sub attack at 78,74
Japanese Ships
SS No. 42
Allied Ships
MSW Heron, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bittern
MSW Avocet
MSW Finch
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TF 59 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63)
Japanese Ships
PC Ch04
PC Ch03
PC Ch01
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Sub attack at 82,74
Japanese Ships
SS U-46 (O2), hits 2, on fire Probably the dreadnoughts thundering by ...
Allied Ships
DD Hopkins
DD Thornton
DD Barry
DD Reuben James
DD Truxton
DD John D. Ford
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope
DD Stewart
DD Elliot
DD Yarnall
DD Tarbell
DD Philip
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TF 50 troops unloading over beach at San Jose, 41,53
Japanese ground losses:
327 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Bataan
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 107283 troops, 388 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 53708 troops, 328 guns, 68 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)
Japanese ground losses:
2761 casualties reported Losses were 50% higher this time ... but still acceptable ... AV went from 1406 to 1233 ... we will rebuild back to 1400 before attacking again .. we will add 2-3 more CE Regts by then ... getting another fort level is key ...
Guns lost 37
Allied ground losses:
714 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
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Ground combat at Bataan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 9438 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 112592 troops, 328 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
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For today we will be withdrawing with the CA/DD group that engaged last night .. and sending in the CL/DD group that just topped off from the Repl group ... all nine of our dreadnoughts ( the 5 BB and the 4 BC ) will rendevous with the repl group .. and OBB group is proceeding to the rendevous from the West ...
The sub and mine support ships have withdrawn from Kwaj to Truk so we will position a couple of milch cows SW of Eniwetok to top off the subs as they move in on station ...
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Does it has any historical background in that "highly historical" game?
Not really ... obviously we will be using historical equipment, circa 1900 .. but the background will be hypothetical .. I'll be playing this one with Scholl. But I do plan to create another "pseudo" historical scenario which will probably be called "The Thrusters" after another group of US Navy planners who tried to plan for the US BtlFlt to storm across the Pacific to rescue Manilla ASAP ( departing Pearl within 14 days of the opening of hostilities !!! ) that one should be interesting but I'd like to let the Cautionary scenarios run a little longer before we publish "The Thrusters" so we can levereage any corrections for both.
Also note that the "Cautionaires" that CAPT and I am playing is version 1.0 where the Japanese only had 15,000 PP at start ... whereas the v1.1 Cautionaries that Rysyonok and I are playing gives the Japanese 20,000 PP to start. There were about a dozen other small changes / corrections as well for version 1.2 which is the published version.
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TF 50 troops unloading over beach at San Jose, 41,53
Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
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TF 1015 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)
Allied Ships
MSW Bittern
MSW Avocet
MSW Finch
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ASW attack near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
SS No. 23
Allied Ships
DD Thornton
DD Hopkins
DD Barry
DD Reuben James
DD Truxton
DD John D. Ford
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope
DD Stewart
DD Elliot
DD Yarnall
DD Tarbell
DD Philip
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ASW attack at 77,74
This is probably the first turn in this game, that I would call a clear victory for the Japanese. We finally sank a dreadnought !!
I have been attempting to employ the historical Japanese plan which was to use the Marshalls as an opportunity to deploy their submarines, cruisers and destroyers, to wear down the enemy fleet as it marched across the Pacific, in preparation for the "decisive" battle closer to the homeland. And while thus far we have only gotten one torpedo hit by subs on a dreadnought ... this turn we got 1 torpedo hit by a DD ( from our CL/DD group ) which sank the Texas ( a New York Class dreadnought completed in 1914 ) ... and we also got a second torpedo hit from the same CL/DD group on the Idaho. So we have accomplished our mission in the Marshalls of sinking at least one dreadnought ( and we have gotten hopefully about 30-35 sys damage on 2 other dreadnoughts thus taking them out of the fight for 2-3 months ).
Our dreadnought report is that Ise is now at 5 sys damange and thus deployable - and Tosa has joined the fleet and is currently at Saipan. So we now have 11 deployables versus the enemy having 11 total less one sunk and 2 damaged, net 8 deployable. This is the circumstance we desire.
We lost 39 points ( 1 CL and 3 DD ) and in exchange sank a 164 point BB so roughly 1 for 4 .. we call this a victory !
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Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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TF 104 troops unloading over beach at Dadjangas, 41,62
Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
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TF 104 troops unloading over beach at Dadjangas, 41,62
Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
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Sub attack near San Jose at 41,53
Japanese Ships
AP Tsunushima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-16
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Day Time Surface Combat at 81,74
Japanese Ships
DD Momo, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
DD Kashi, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
DD Hinoki, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yanagi, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Idaho, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Hoorah ! [8D]
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 2
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ASW attack at 81,74
Japanese Ships
SS No. 24
Allied Ships
MSW Brant
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Ground combat at Bataan
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 73794 troops, 345 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 52260 troops, 316 guns, 68 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at San Jose
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1721 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE San Jose base !!! This will help with the blocade of Bataan [8D]
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Ground combat at Davao
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 1535 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 18259 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Bataan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 9398 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 119741 troops, 346 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported We will launch another attack in 1-2 days, 2 more CE have joined another is unloading we are at 1359 AV want 1400 before we attack ... Guns lost 1
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Today is rough day IRL .. so no screen shots until tonight ...
We did another attack on Bataan with improving results - I feel like we can now predict that Bataan will fall before the USN arrives.
In the Marshalls we hit another dreadnought with a submarine torpedo ( the second such occurence in the game ) and this is the forth one knocked out in the Marshalls campaign ( Texas sunk 3 others hit by torpedoes ).
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/24/22
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TF 104 troops unloading over beach at Dadjangas, 41,62
Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
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ASW attack at 81,74
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74 We are testing the Naval control of Eniwetok ...
Japanese Ships
CA Iwate, Shell hits 1
CA Asama, Shell hits 2
CA Tokiwa
CA Yakumo
DD Maki
DD Kiri
DD Sugi
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
CA Iwate
CA Asama
CA Tokiwa, Shell hits 3
CA Yakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Maki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kiri, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Sugi
Allied Ships
DD Babbitt, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Roper
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 3
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
CA Iwate
CA Asama, Shell hits 2
CA Tokiwa
CA Yakumo
DD Maki, on fire
DD Kiri, on fire
DD Sugi
Allied Ships
DD Babbitt, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
DD Roper, Shell hits 2
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 36, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
CA Iwate, Shell hits 1
CA Asama
CA Tokiwa, Shell hits 1
CA Yakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Maki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kiri, on fire
DD Sugi
Allied Ships
DM Ludlow, Shell hits 5, on fire Hopefully we drove these guys off before they could lay their "eggs" ... DM Burns, Shell hits 1
DM Anthony, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack at 77,75
Big day at Eniwetok ... we went in with 9 of our dreadnoughts and 4 pre-dreadnoughts ... and sank two US dreadnoughts and some smaller ships. At least one of our pre-dreadnoughts may not survive but this will not be clear for a day or so as the damaged ships try to make port.
Meanwhile the Allies invade Wotje ... taking their second base in the Marshalls.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/25/22
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TF 43 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74)
Japanese Ships
BB Mikasa, Mine hits 1, on fire What a way to start the big battle ... Togo's flagship at the battle of Tsushima hitting a Japanese mine ! [8|][:@]
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TF 1066 encounters mine field at Wotje (82,79)
Allied Ships
DD Talbot
DD Crane
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ASW attack near San Jose at 41,53
Japanese Ships
DD Hamakaze
DD Isokaze
DD Tanikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
Allied Ships
SS S-15
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ASW attack at 83,74
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74 The main action begins - we lead with our pre-dreadnoughts and put 2 torpedoes into the Nevada
Japanese Ships
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Hizen, Shell hits 3, on fire
BB Iwami, Shell hits 2
BB Shikishima, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Tone
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze
DD Nadakaze
Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 10
Japanese Ships
BB Mikasa, on fire
BB Hizen, on fire
BB Iwami
BB Shikishima, on fire
CL Tone
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze
DD Nadakaze
Allied Ships
AP West Point, Shell hits 37, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Hizen, on fire
BB Iwami, Shell hits 2
BB Shikishima, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tone, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nadakaze
Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 37, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 18
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BC Kongo
BC Hiei
BC Kirishima
BC Haruna
CL Kitakami
DD Sumire
DD Yomogi
Allied Ships
AD Prarie, Shell hits 24, and is sunk Always use to sink an AD ... [8D]
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1 Oops - the Roper got a hit before she went down [:(]
BC Hiei
BC Kirishima
BC Haruna
CL Kitakami
DD Sumire
DD Yomogi
Allied Ships
DD Roper, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, Shell hits 2, on fire
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2
BC Kirishima, Shell hits 2
BC Haruna, Shell hits 1
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1
DD Sumire, Shell hits 2
DD Yomogi
Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk [8D][8D][8D]
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, on fire
BC Hiei
BC Kirishima
BC Haruna
CL Kitakami
DD Sumire
DD Yomogi
Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 26, and is sunk [8D][8D][8D]
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ASW attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
DD Aoi
DD Kiku
DD Nashi
Allied Ships
SS S-16
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ASW attack at 42,52
Japanese Ships
DD Aoi
DD Kiku
DD Nashi
Allied Ships
SS S-16
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Naval bombardment of Davao, at 41,61
Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Sub attack near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, on fire
DD Sumire
Allied Ships
SS R-1
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TF 1066 encounters mine field at Wotje (82,79)
TF 1066 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79
Allied Ships
DD Crane, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Hazelwood, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
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TF 1066 encounters mine field at Wotje (82,79)
TF 1066 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79
Allied Ships
DD Talbot
DD Crane
DD Mugford
AP President Madison, Mine hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
298 casualties reported
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Sub attack at 77,74
Japanese Ships
SS No. 35
Allied Ships
MSW Kingfisher
MSW Brant
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Sub attack near Marcus Island at 75,56
Japanese Ships
AP Tenzan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS R-13
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Sub attack near San Jose at 41,53
Japanese Ships
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Isokaze
DD Tanikaze
CA Ikoma
Allied Ships
SS S-15
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Naval bombardment of Davao, at 41,61
And the SUNK report. Our fleet is now withdrawing having accomplished their design in the Marshalls. It remains to be seen what the price tag will be but thus far we have traded 3 CLs and several DDs for considerably more material including 3 dreadnoughts sunk and 3 damaged by torpedoes. But our price tag will probably go up in a few days ... at least 1-3 of those damaged BBs may not make it ... updates to follow ...
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Hi, well after discussions with the playtesters .. we have halted both of the Cautionaries games for scenario adjustments and restart.
The US Dreadnought BB reinforcement track will be accelerated to be aligned with more immediate sailing of the Atlantic fleet for the Pacific than is reflected in stock S7 .. thus all Atlantic Fleet dreadnoughts will arrive by the end of the year of 1922.
The PI defenses ( which were beefed up in Cautionaries ) will be reduced to historical levels ( which is actually a bit lower than stock s7 ).
But I enjoyed the 3 months of play that CAPT and I did complete on Cautionaries - it was a cliff hanger for me up to the very end. And for the Rysyonok game, the same - I actually felt better about the Bataan attack - in the Rysyonok game than in the CAPT game - but in the event the Arty balance was 4:1 towards the US even though the IJA had brought the entire inventory - this was most likely due to my beefing up the Coast defense guns too far ( as designer ) so they will be reduced back down.
Version 1.3 of Cautionaries will be up shortly. And then re-starts will happen.
Thanks for watching !
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Ok, corrections have been made, to version 1.3 of Cautionaries, and games have restarted ... I am again pitted against CAPT(as USA) and with myself as the Japanese and I have started my troops a loading ... we will begin regular postings again shortly.
Also, CAPT has started a game versus RYSYONOK with CAPT as Japanese and RYSYONOK as USA.
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