is it only me or....

[Mr.Frag]

Shouldn't that be War in the Gulf III or something like that ?

Naw, I'm betting India or Korea will go up before the Gulf

[Oznoyng]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Shouldn't that be War in the Gulf III or something like that ?

Naw, I'm betting India or Korea will go up before the Gulf

Why India? Pakistan?

[Oznoyng]

ORIGINAL: testarossa

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
If tomorrow Italy would decide( yes i know it won't but...) to have its own nuke, and someone, that already has it, would come up to me saying: "No, you cannot, because i don't want you to grow stronger as me"....well...believe me: i'd go really pissed off.

Hmm... Looks like we are going straight to the General Forum.

But…. I can't stop posting. Almost like the "King of Dorks". [:D]

The question is not about who is allowed or who is not allowed to have a nuke. The question is why would someone need a nuke? Iran has no enemies except US. So they need it for protection from US? Ha-ha, like it's going to help them.

As far as I understand elections in Iran were falsified to bring into power a hardliner, former terrorist (or freedom fighter, whatever).
Now this guy keeps jabbering about moving Israel to Alaska, or may be Switzerland, denies Holocaust (which is a criminal offence pretty much in all democratic states), predicts apocalypses and eradication of Jews.

He sounds like a lunatic. Well, look in the eyes of that guy. It's like looking at the rattle snake. He will kill millions without holding a breath.

Now I don't think US is going to invade Iran in any case (or even initiate some kind of embargo). China would never approve any kind of embargo because they need independent from US source of oil.

If pressed too hard Iran could stop oil exports (15-20% of world's output), they can survive without flat screen TV and computers. If situation escalates they would mine Ormuz straits or sink some blockade ships there, effectively cutting off another 40% of oil.

So i think the best solution would be B-2 strike on all nuclear facilities in Iran. Not going to happen. So i think we will see Israelis trying to do the same with 3rd generation jets. Unless Russians sell to Iran their advanced SAMs. Something better than US Patriot, S300M(?).

This reads like a post written by an American...

[Mr.Frag]

Why India? Pakistan?

Cause they just don't seem to like each other and they have the tools to have the toys.

[tc464]

I spent two years in Iran, right up until the revolution. These people are religious fanatics who won't think twice about popping a nuke in Israel or America.

My prediction...

Israel will do the ugly house cleaning. They have the testicular fortitude, and will be willing to endure the 2 or 3 years of criticism before it dies down. And although they will never admit it...most of the Arab world (the Sunni part) will thank them for it, because after us infidels are wiped out, the Iranians will start eyeballing the Sunni.

We won't do it because the Liberals have enough power to stop it. Even if Iran managed to set one off here, the Liberals would demand we look at the "root causes" first. [8|]

[Mr.Frag]

These people are religious fanatics

Let me guess, you've forgotten about a little thing called the Crusades? [:D]

Everyone who believes in something is a fanatic to someone else who doesn't ... odd but true ... the western world is simply money fanatics instead of religious fanatics [:D]

[Nikademus]

I think India and Pakastan prove my earlier point. You'll be hard pressed to find two nations that hate each other's guts more....they have nukes. They havn't used em. Thats because like with the US and USSR, one uses em...so does the other. both lose.

I don't think Iran would be any different. Their leaders are not stupid....however.....if one warhead were to fall into or be given to some fanatic and set loose... yikes. Osama wouldn't hesitate to use one. Any nation that did use one even without a retaliation would be ostracized from world society.

[JReb]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

I don't worry about governments using them. Governments can't hide. I worry about some idiot with a cause getting one who can then run and hide.

I am not sure a single person could get one, move it to the target location and detonate without a lot of help from certain enemy governments, actively or passively.

As to whether they would use it because of "certain annihilation" they are betting (just as the Japanese) that there will be no strong arm reaction, questioning the victims will to fight back and to the degree of total war to be used. This is what enemies of the US rely on when attacking the states.

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: JReb

As to whether they would use it because of "certain annihilation" they are betting (just as the Japanese) that there will be no strong arm reaction, questioning the victims will to fight back and to the degree of total war to be used. This is what enemies of the US rely on when attacking the states.

I would think that question got answered on 9/11

[kaleun]

I would think that question got answered on 9/11

I would say it also got answered on December 8th 1941.


Just returning the thread to the general timeframe.[8|]

[tsimmonds]

I am not sure a single person could get one, move it to the target location and detonate without a lot of help from certain enemy governments, actively or passively.

Once the bad guys get one, it will be fairly easy for them to deliver it to just about any port in the world; all they need to do is put it into a shipping container....

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: kaleun

I would think that question got answered on 9/11

I would say it also got answered on December 8th 1941.


Just returning the thread to the general timeframe.[8|]

definately hard to remain vigilent. However staying in the time frame....i note the similarity in our responses to both events. [;)]