CHS OOB errata

[ctangus]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: ctangus

Found this by accident. I'm not sure if this is right or not, but it certainly seems like too many guns for a 1500 capacity AP:

Nope, it's correct. That is a passenger ship converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. It retains a good portion of it's troop carrying capacity and there are many of instances of AMCs carrying troops. If not so converted in would have at least twice the capacity.

Thanks Don. I learn something(s) new everyday on these boards. [:)]

[Don Bowen]

Some of the AMCs are also defined as PG in CHS. An anomaly of the WITP system allows only a single defintion of capacity: for warships it is aircraft capacity and for all others it is cargo capacity. So AMCs defined as AP can carry troops while AMCs defined as PG lose their troop-carrying ability but can carry a couple of aircraft. A few others are classed as minelayers (also losing the ability to carry troops).

During the war most AMCs were eventually retired and used as transports or other auxiliaries. Upgrade paths for most of the AMC classes in CHS point to conventional transports.

[m10bob]

American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail ![:D]

I cannot get American Vth Amphib Corps to embark on ships !
(It arrives in Frisco for Central Pacific).[:@]

Don, you did tremendous work on the ships..............

[Don Bowen]

American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail ![:D]

This doesn't sound right at all. HMAS Perth is on the board at the start of the scenario and should not re-spawn (much less to a Baltimore class). The Walrus is correct for the original Perth.

Sorry, I can be no help on this one.

[rockmedic109]

I had a top RAF or RAAF pilot {forget which} that was listed in the top pilot list as being USN. This was after one of the 1.79x patches and I assumed this was from the patch {fragment of his squadron showed up in Dutch Harbor}.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail ![:D]

This doesn't sound right at all. HMAS Perth is on the board at the start of the scenario and should not re-spawn (much less to a Baltimore class). The Walrus is correct for the original Perth.

Sorry, I can be no help on this one.

Actually, I won't gripe too much as the Walrus has a range of 6 and the old biplanes of pre WW2 only have range of 3..
Yeah, my report is factual..It IS the Baltimore class "PERTH".....[:'(]
BTW, there is an asterisk or something behind the name of the ship, as if it is a replacement, but it is for the USN.......

[bradfordkay]

Hmmm... sounds like a glitch in the respawn system. The Baltimore class were heavy cruisers, not CLs. Is the ship listed as a Baltimore class CL? Does it have 9x8" guns?

Like you said, the Walrus has better range than the a/c the USN put aboard her, so maybe you should just consider heer a gift to His Majesty's Royal Australian Navy from a grateful United States Government...

[Ron Saueracker]

While playing I noticed that HMS Ramillies is spelled RAMILLES.[;)]

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Hmmm... sounds like a glitch in the respawn system. The Baltimore class were heavy cruisers, not CLs. Is the ship listed as a Baltimore class CL? Does it have 9x8" guns?

Like you said, the Walrus has better range than the a/c the USN put aboard her, so maybe you should just consider heer a gift to His Majesty's Royal Australian Navy from a grateful United States Government...

Yep............My bad...............I checked and it is showing as a Baltimore class CA with those 8/55 guns..All is identical to the other Baltimores, (of course), except for the Walrus aircraft of S4/9 RAAF...The listed Captain is Irwin.

Still do not know why the Vth Amphib Corps in Frisco will not embark ??[&:]

[jcjordan]

WITPQS - CW squads upgrade to Indian Light squads. There is a slight gain in combat ratings, forget when it happens but you should be able to see it in db as I'm not with my laptop.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: jcjordan

WITPQS - CW squads upgrade to Indian Light squads. There is a slight gain in combat ratings, forget when it happens but you should be able to see it in db as I'm not with my laptop.

Thanks - somebody else pointed that out in the other thread I had posted that on. I guess the question is: is the changeover intentional? Andrew is looking into it.

[asdicus]

I would like to suggest that CHS increase the monthly replacement rate of 14 for the 3in mortar for the commonwealth forces. The is the same rate as the original scenario 15 and the result is the commonwealth units are understrength in mortars for the entire war. I am not aware of any historical shortages of such a simple and easy to manufacture weapon - also note that the us equivalent 81mm mortar has a much higher monthly replacement rate of 189.

I seem to remember at one stage that the CHS included some infantry troops with the permanently fixed port base forces in india - to represent garrison troops. These troops have now been replaced by 'fortications' - can anyone explain why the garrison troops were removed ? I found them useful because they added a small level of assualt value to the indian ports to prevent japanese commando attacks.

I am mostly a lurker on these forums but I have been following and using the chs since its inception - it is an excellent piece of work - my thanks go out to all those who have contributed to the CHS. Well done to you all.

[lucascuccia]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

What is the deal with all of the LB-30 Liberators.
Two seperate sources I have seen mentioned that the AAF comandeered 75 back from the brits right after Pearl Harbor. 29 Eventually went back to the Brits or never saw any form of US service. Of the 46 that stayed American, 15 went with the 11 BS of the 7 BG to Java. About a dozen went to the panama canal to join the 6th BG (3, 25,29, and 74 BS) and a few fought in Mid 1942 flying out of Oahu. General Tinker, commander of the 7th AF was killed in one.

Anyway, only enough planes exist for 3 squadrons. Having the 392 BS of the 30 BG show covers the Oahu forces. The 11 BS should start with them (remove the b-17 upgrade to the LB-30 on the 9th BS) and let on of the 4 groups in panama have a squadron of them.

By having 3 squadrons be fully equiped with them, production can be reduced to 1 (not sure what level it is set at) and leave it be. The remainder of the LB 30 squadrons (I count about 8 so far) should be b-24ds.

Lucas

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: lucascuccia

Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

What is the deal with all of the LB-30 Liberators.
Two seperate sources I have seen mentioned that the AAF comandeered 75 back from the brits right after Pearl Harbor. 29 Eventually went back to the Brits or never saw any form of US service. Of the 46 that stayed American, 15 went with the 11 BS of the 7 BG to Java. About a dozen went to the panama canal to join the 6th BG (3, 25,29, and 74 BS) and a few fought in Mid 1942 flying out of Oahu. General Tinker, commander of the 7th AF was killed in one.

Anyway, only enough planes exist for 3 squadrons. Having the 392 BS of the 30 BG show covers the Oahu forces. The 11 BS should start with them (remove the b-17 upgrade to the LB-30 on the 9th BS) and let on of the 4 groups in panama have a squadron of them.

By having 3 squadrons be fully equiped with them, production can be reduced to 1 (not sure what level it is set at) and leave it be. The remainder of the LB 30 squadrons (I count about 8 so far) should be b-24ds.

Lucas

This seems to be a very valid point. Even accounting for the handfull of -A and -C models the LB-30 production seems high.

The upgrade path of the 9th BS should be retained, however, as this is the trigger that allows player-defined-upgrades from B-17 to LB-30 if desired.

[m10bob]

Don, why do you think I got that American Baltimore class "CA" Perth with Walrus aircraft ?
For that matter, why do the American ships either not get the newer floatplanes,(instead of those pre-war biplanes), or not at all, (as would be historically correct on a lot of the American ships once it was realized they were just extra junk to burn in a gunfight?)
I personally like the floatplanes, but would like to see more of the Kingfishers than those ancient bipes.[:)]

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Don, why do you think I got that American Baltimore class "CA" Perth with Walrus aircraft ?
For that matter, why do the American ships either not get the newer floatplanes,(instead of those pre-war biplanes), or not at all, (as would be historically correct on a lot of the American ships once it was realized they were just extra junk to burn in a gunfight?)
I personally like the floatplanes, but would like to see more of the Kingfishers than those ancient bipes.[:)]

I assume the "Baltimore" Perth just retained it's original Walrus airgroup.

As to the floatplanes - the Walrus, SOC and OS2U are all on separate upgrade paths - in fact none of them upgrade and you just have what you have.

TheOS2U Kingfisher was a larger aircraft without folding wings and could not be handled by some ships. The planned replacement for the SOC Seagull failed (Seamew I believe, don't recall much about it). There was another aircraft called the SC Seahawk that came in late in the war and was used as replacements for both U.S. floatplane types.

Don

[Ron Saueracker]

Air Unit #1171, an Army Air Force bomber unit, has no name.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Air Unit #1171, an Army Air Force bomber unit, has no name.

It does in my copy Laddie - 46th Bombardment. Perhaps you plucked the name from your copy??

[Pascal_slith]

I read not long ago (I believe in Osprey's Production to Frontline series) that there were a number of LB-30's in Oahu on Dec. 7, 1941, too. I'll try to find the specific reference, but these aircraft are not present in CHS.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Air Unit #1171, an Army Air Force bomber unit, has no name.

It does in my copy Laddie - 46th Bombardment. Perhaps you plucked the name from your copy??

This is the latest version of CHS on Spooky's site. Funny I did not notice it before...I'm wondering if something "weird" is going on. Not beyond possibility with this game.[X(]