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RE: war as usual

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picture of the day is kungchang situation
today 16 hurris lost for 1 zero over benares - looks like building up exp in UK air forces is deadly in nature


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/31/42

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Day Air attack on Benares , at 28,18

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 16 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 8th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 99th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 11

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56849 troops, 735 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 213937 troops, 582 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported



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RE: war as usual

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BTW way it has never been intended to take India out of war cos i consider it a gamey
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RE: war as usual

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ORIGINAL: Luskan



- and for all the noise he his making on this AAR "woe is india, oh the pain, British Empire in ruins" etc. I can't help but feel he is secretly pleased you didn't invade northern Oz.




Will you please[/i] shutup ! [;)] Actually I would NOW welcome an assault on Darwin or even anyway in Northern Oz........but Sneer is way to smart for that. IF he had tried to invade Oz then I would have used my CVs.......one does have to think of his pride.

A match between Sneer and Luskan would be one that I would pay to watch......Sneer and Luskan are both on an equal level so it would be a rather interesting game.
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RE: war as usual

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I fear that unless I got unemployed I have no chance for second fast pace PBEM game[8D]
But I would gladly challenge Luskan as well ...
sooner or later I'll take a gauntlet don't worry
now I'm happy this game moves really fast and it is more important to see what next than start another game



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/01/42

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Night Air attack on Benares , at 28,18

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 64
Hudson I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed


Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 30th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 97,96

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 97,96

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 9 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 97,96

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56754 troops, 731 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 213346 troops, 570 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 47,26

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 177576 troops, 570 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 71458 troops, 737 guns, 292 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1284 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 11

Allied ground losses:
2620 casualties reported
Guns lost 117


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RE: war as usual

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BTW as it is a mystery no longer I'm 3 hexes from canton Isl with invasion force
we will see what will I catch there
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RE: war as usual

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ORIGINAL: Sneer

BTW as it is a mystery no longer I'm 3 hexes from canton Isl with invasion force
we will see what will I catch there

I am hoping it is a cold.[:)]
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Canton Isl taken

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well I was really scared tonight
I expected Inf rgt there and if it was there it would be extremaly difficult
CD guns made sth beyound belief
10k shots to landing forces
3 AP and 7 MSW lost many ships damaged
but now the ring of patrol planes is broken and I can harass enemy supply lines also easy transport of short legged a/c to OZ is over.
with 1 full crack division and equivalent of second one it will take a long time for allied to be ready for central Pac offensive


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/03/42

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Night Air attack on Benares , at 28,18

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 52
Hudson I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed


Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Fuso
DD Yugumo
DD Akigumo
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio

Allied Ships
PT PT-59, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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TF 151 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

TF 151 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


388 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Tamaura Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Asahi Maru, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Atsu Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Banshu Maru #8, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Hagoromo Maru, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Shonan Maru #8, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tama Maru #3, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tama Maru #5, Shell hits 4, on fire
MSW Togo Maru, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tamozono Maru #1
MSW Tamozono Maru #2, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
PG Magan Maru
PC Fumi Maru
DD Okikaze
AP Koei Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 151
6098 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Kisaragi Maru
CA Aoba, Shell hits 17
AP Koei Maru, Shell hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koshu Maru #3, Shell hits 1
AP Kureha Maru #3, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kyuden Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 3
AP Mitsu Maru #3, Shell hits 39, on fire, heavy damage
AP Neikai Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Seki Maru #2, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Katori, Shell hits 27
AP Nissen Maru #3, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kashii, Shell hits 31
AP Ryugi Maru, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage
PC Fumi Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shikano Maru, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kashima, Shell hits 28, on fire
AP Taimei Maru, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tenzan Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Toyo Maru #2, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kokuryu Maru, Shell hits 33, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shoto Maru
AK Sakae Maru, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koshu Maru #2, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Okikaze
AP Kotobuki Maru #3, Shell hits 1
PG Unkai Maru #1, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Shuko Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Aratama Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tainichi Maru
AP Kowa Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
PG Magan Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Ryoyu Maru #21

Japanese ground losses:
12415 casualties reported
Guns lost 95
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

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TF 151 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

TF 151 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


111 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Tamaura Maru, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Asahi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Atsu Maru, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Banshu Maru #8, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Hagoromo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Shonan Maru #8, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tama Maru #3, Shell hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tama Maru #5
MSW Togo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tamozono Maru #1
MSW Tamozono Maru #2, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PG Magan Maru
PC Fumi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
PC Seki Maru #2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 151
2875 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kisaragi Maru, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage
AP Saiho Maru, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kikuryu Maru, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kyuden Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AP Minryo Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tientsin Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shoto Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ryugi Maru, Shell hits 22, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ryuosan Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Shikano Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shinai Maru, Shell hits 1
PG Magan Maru, Shell hits 1
PG Unkai Maru #1, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Uji Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Shofuku Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tenryu Maru, Shell hits 28, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tsuyama Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Kaijo Maru #2, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Shuko Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
AP Aratama Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kotobuki Maru #5, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sumiyoshi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
AP Tainichi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
AP Takunan Maru
AP Kotobuki Maru #3, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
AP Keizan Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Kembu Maru, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tateyama Maru, Shell hits 10, on fire
AP Koshu Maru #2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
2230 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
H6K4 Mavis x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on 76th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 25
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 12
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
H6K4 Mavis x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged


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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56199 troops, 695 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 207376 troops, 412 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
262 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 24969 troops, 216 guns, 3 vehicles

Defending force 13966 troops, 189 guns, 14 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Canton Island base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 18 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
880 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
13623 casualties reported
Guns lost 177
Vehicles lost 5


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Ground combat at 47,26

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 168872 troops, 412 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 67462 troops, 699 guns, 426 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: Canton Isl taken

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quick watch at ground forces losses
I lost 4 points x 6 x10 men for a total of 240 men
Raver lost 348 points x 3 x 10 men for a total 10460
looks like almost all losses are disruption ones and wounded
it was not as bloody as thought
CD units is overrated but everybody knows it and I don't mind that as soon Raver will in target crosshairs retaking many of my bases from sea
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RE: Canton Isl taken

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Well if CD units are over rated then how come you have so many damaged and sinking sihips?[:D]
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RE: Canton Isl taken

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Well if CD units are over rated then how come you have so many damaged and sinking sihips?
I had thought from some of the AAR's that pre-invasion bombing and shelling seemed to do little good. (You may remember that by 1945 the Japanese decided not to contest at the water's edge because the preliminary bombardments were so effective.) But now we've seen just how lethal CD batteries can be without any softening up. Raver, would you mind telling us just what guns you had there?

One other point: It seems to me Sneer got very lucky in that shock attack, or the defending troops were not very experienced.
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RE: Canton Isl taken

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it was adjusted 7:1 after landing so rule take just one more unit worked
there was crack 95 exp inf division + 4 big navy inf units + combat eng
agaist aviation + 2 eng + 2 marine CD
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RE: Canton Isl taken

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....and Sneer did not do any pre-bombardment softening up either. The repair yards at Singers and Kure will be busy for months.[:D]
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RE: war as usual

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yes my fault
just tempo of our game was too fast and did not switch from surface combat
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Massacre over Lautem

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[:D][:D][:D]
Raver wanted to strike back - loss of Canton must be more painful than readable from comments

3 zero groups intercepted bombing raid over lautem
5 zero lost for
12 P40B
32 Hudsons
5 B-17

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42

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TF 51 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Japanese Ships
MSW Tamozono Maru #1

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TF 51 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Japanese Ships
MSW Tamozono Maru #1

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 59

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 63
P-40B Tomahawk x 17
B-17E Fortress x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 28 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 31 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 12 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
33 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 30000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 30000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 30000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 30000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 30000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 161

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
30 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 42nd Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56474 troops, 702 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 205591 troops, 385 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
151 casualties reported

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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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Nah it was just a trainning run for my new B-17s.
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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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in result all my fighter units receiver 3-4 exp :-)
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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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What kind of allied forces were present at Canton Island?
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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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see posts above
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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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ORIGINAL: Sneer

see posts above


I noticed that there were 13 000 allied casualties. Looks like quite heavy CD units lossess but were there any infantry units there?
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RE: Massacre over Lautem

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2 marine CD + aviation+2 eng
no inf - probably I would take it but losses wouldn't be one-sided
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