Sneer vs Raver , Banzaiiii!!!!

[Sneer]

Well given amount of strategic reserves and not commited airforce + its exp level I would be happy to see direct invasion on home islands in early 43
by this time china wil be wiped out and these elements of kwantung army which are bought out will join reserves - i stripped kwantung of tanks artillery and engineers

[Capt. Harlock]

I would be happy to see direct invasion on home islands in early 43

It won't be happening that early -- Raver is a lad who takes his time. I think you gave up a little too much when you agreed to ignore the auto-victory: it has allowed Raver to ignore the point count, and accept the loss of China.

[Raverdave]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

I would be happy to see direct invasion on home islands in early 43

It won't be happening that early -- Raver is a lad who takes his time. I think you gave up a little too much when you agreed to ignore the auto-victory: it has allowed Raver to ignore the point count, and accept the loss of China.

[;)][;)][;)][;)]
[;)]

[Sneer]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

It won't be happening that early -- Raver is a lad who takes his time. I think you gave up a little too much when you agreed to ignore the auto-victory: it has allowed Raver to ignore the point count, and accept the loss of China.

I don't understand what you mean
starting assumption was I will try to fight as long as I can
most of my enemies dropped their games in 3-4/42 after beating I gave them and I want to play once more a bit longer

[aztez]

I'am with Sneer. I have 2 PBEM's ongoing and actually I really hope that both of these games will continue to the end regardless of "auto-victory".

The idea is to play for fun and to get most out of Witp it is best to play to the end.

[Sneer]

6/27/42
300 b17 hit amboina from darwin

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Sneer

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Geez. 14k naval shipyard points! I'd accelerate some ships.

Hiyo Junyo Shoho and Yamato finished
I don't care about accelerating Musashi
so all points will go into carriers
Shinano Oyodo and short+ medium range subs are halted

What about accelerating some DDs?

[Sneer]

soon Unryu class CVs will be in range for acceleration - it is real target
I have lost only 1 DD by now so no need to accelerate them now

[Raverdave]

Things have been quite these last few turns....time to turn up the heat.

[Sneer]

Raver stroke my light forces in Kendari port but fails in heavy damaging them
25 B-17 lost to 9 zeros there
all hit ships below 30 flood so no real threat for their lifes and I doubt Raver will manage to go back tomorrow with so high number of damaged planes


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/02/42

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Night Air attack on Benares , at 28,18


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 74
Hudson I x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 262

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 27 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 12 destroyed, 94 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Bomb hits 1
CL Nagara, Bomb hits 1
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Manazuru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Uzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Naka, Bomb hits 3, on fire
APD APD-31, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Kuma, Bomb hits 1
CL Tama, Bomb hits 2
DD Asakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Shojin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
27 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
20 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
26 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
18 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 249

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
22 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
18 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
18 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd New Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 14
Ki-49 Helen x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 58th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 60th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 32
Ki-49 Helen x 28

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 54th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 51
Ki-49 Helen x 73

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
10 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 90th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-49 Helen x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Benares , at 28,18


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 116
Spitfire Vb x 8


No Allied losses


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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 233844 troops, 2596 guns, 28 vehicles

Defending force 170056 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
217 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 47,26

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20125 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 268012 troops, 2599 guns, 462 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[Raverdave]

Ah but it shows that I have the ablility to strike AND inflict damage[:'(]

[ADavidB]

Raver stroke my light forces in Kendari port but fails in heavy damaging them
25 B-17 lost to 9 zeros there
all hit ships below 30 flood so no real threat for their lifes and I doubt Raver will manage to go back tomorrow with so high number of damaged planes

It's too bad that Raver had his bombers so high - at 6K feet they would have likely trippled the hits. [;)]

BTW - where in the world did you find 249 Oscars to put together, and how did you fit them all on an airfield...? [:D]

Dave Baranyi

[Raverdave]

They are still in "training" mode....I lower the high once they get above 60+ exp.

[Sneer]

+80 oscars trains in china when weather allows + Home island defence
good news is I will get 400 fighters in next 90 days [8D]
and currently trained will be 80+ tojo/tony users

[Sneer]

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Ah but it shows that I have the ablility to strike AND inflict damage[:'(]

This part of war when allies can hurt me suits me better

[Sneer]

03/07/42
again I forgot to include points situation for first July
Raver plays favourites toys of every allied commander
150 wellingtons in india
300 fortresses in Darwin
there is little sense it static defence for me as it often goes to numbers game
I have had quite a good successes in flexible cap adjustment and this will be probably my tactics till late war
I could more or less cover now my frontline bases but losses in oscars would be too high and all of them are exp 75+ now so Raver have one month unless he meets Tony/Tojo in action
Side with initiative always needs less force to strike hard , and when sb has initiative and numbers advantage it is always painful to second side

[Raverdave]

Ha ! I just bombed the snot out of Benares ! Pay back time Leader of the evil ones!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/03/42

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Day Air attack on Benares , at 28,18

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 145
Hudson I x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 132

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 250

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
23 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
23 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
18 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
17 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M3 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd New Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 60th Chinese Corps, at 47,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 24

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 234456 troops, 2601 guns, 29 vehicles

Defending force 169687 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
488 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 47,26

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14072 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 268631 troops, 2604 guns, 464 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[Sneer]

points for jap fanboys
4E will have tough times when I gather 300+ modern fighter with exp pilots in Benares

[Raverdave]

Of course thats IF I allow you to open Benares ..........last time I looked the runway was nothing but a pock-marked smoking ruin. The same fate as the rest of your evil empire.

[Raverdave]

What the h3ll happened to your Political Points? [&:] I've got some 6000+ while you only have 350?????? Ha! You are spending your PPs like a drunken salior !