All hail the new Togo!

[crsutton]

You might like this one. PBEMAIL.

Six American BBs and one BC on the bottom. Man I love this game. I lost heavily in DDs and CLs but all capital ships but one old BB will make it to port.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/27/29

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ASW attack at 47,45

Japanese Ships
DD Sugi
DD Kaede
DD Katsura

Allied Ships
SS S-26

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ASW attack at 45,48

Japanese Ships
SS No. 46

Allied Ships
DD Waters
DD Talbot
DD Stringham
DD Sigourney
DD Kimberly
DD Gregory
CL Trenton
CL Cincinnati

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ASW attack at 45,48

Japanese Ships
SS No. 46

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Farenholt

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Sub attack near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
SS No. 11

Allied Ships
CA Charleston
CA Pueblo

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Tosa
BB Kaga
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
CL Kako
DD No. 34
DD Shimakaze
DD Shiokaze
DD Hokaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB Indiana
BB Montana
BB North Carolina
BB Iowa
BB Massachusetts
BB Colorado
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond
CL Concord
DD Robinson
DD McKean

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Tosa
BB Kaga
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
CL Kako
DD No. 34
DD Shimakaze
DD Shiokaze
DD Hokaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Indiana
BB Montana
BB North Carolina
BB Iowa
BB Massachusetts
BB Colorado, Shell hits 1
BB West Virginia
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond
CL Concord, Shell hits 1
DD Robinson
DD McKean

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Aki, Shell hits 1
BB Satsuma, Shell hits 2
BB Katori
BB Hizen
BB Iwami, Shell hits 2
CL Kitakami
DD No. 19, Shell hits 1
DD No. 29
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Indiana
BB Montana
BB North Carolina
BB Iowa
BB Massachusetts
BB Colorado
BB West Virginia
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond
CL Concord
DD Robinson
DD McKean

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Aki, Shell hits 3, on fire
BB Satsuma, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
BB Katori, Shell hits 13, on fire
BB Hizen
BB Iwami
CL Kitakami
DD No. 19, Shell hits 1
DD No. 29
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Indiana
BB Montana
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 2
BB Iowa
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 1
BB West Virginia
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond
CL Concord, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Robinson
DD McKean

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BC Takao, Shell hits 4
BC Hiei, Shell hits 2
BC Haruna
CL Yahagi, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Oi, Shell hits 9
DD Yakaze
DD No. 10, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD No. 16, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DD No. 18

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 3
BC Saratoga
BC Ranger, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BC Constitution, Shell hits 1
BC United States, Shell hits 5
CA Huntington, Shell hits 2
CA Frederick, Shell hits 1
CA Huron, Shell hits 1
DD Fox, Shell hits 2, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Settsu, Shell hits 13, on fire
BB Mikasa
BB Shikishima
BB Fuji, Shell hits 5, on fire
BB Okinoshima
BB Suwo
DD No. 30, Shell hits 1
DD No. 31, Shell hits 1
DD No. 33

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 3
BC Saratoga
BC Ranger, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BC Constitution, Shell hits 1
BC United States, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Frederick, Shell hits 1
CA Huron, Shell hits 1
DD Fox, Shell hits 2, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Settsu, on fire
BB Mikasa
BB Shikishima
BB Fuji, Shell hits 1, on fire
BB Okinoshima, Shell hits 2
BB Suwo
DD No. 30
DD No. 31, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD No. 33

Allied Ships
BC Lexington
BC Saratoga
BC Ranger, on fire, heavy damage
BC Constitution
BC United States, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Frederick
CA Huron
DD Fox, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Shell hits 1
CL Yuru
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
CL Abukama
DD Nadakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Umikaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Maki

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury
DD Truxton, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
DD Paul Jones
DD Preble

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
CL Yuru, Shell hits 1
CL Kinu
CL Abukama, Shell hits 3
DD Nadakaze, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Namikaze
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Maki

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 1
DD Truxton, on fire, heavy damage
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Preble, Shell hits 3, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
CL Yuru
CL Kinu
CL Abukama
DD Nadakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Namikaze
DD Umikaze, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Maki

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury
DD Truxton, and is sunk
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Preble, Shell hits 65, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Yuru, Shell hits 6
CL Kinu, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CL Abukama, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Nadakaze, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 3
DD Maki, Shell hits 33, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB South Carolina, Shell hits 7
CA Charleston, Shell hits 7
CA Missoula, Shell hits 2
CA Seattle, Shell hits 2
CA Pueblo, Shell hits 1
CA Pittsburg, Shell hits 7

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Tenryu
DD No. 40
DD No. 42
DD No. 43
DD No. 44

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 1
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Tenryu
DD No. 40, Shell hits 1
DD No. 42
DD No. 43, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No. 44

Allied Ships
BC Lexington
BC Saratoga, Shell hits 1
BC Ranger, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BC Constitution
BC United States, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Frederick, Shell hits 1
CA Huron, Shell hits 1
DD Fox, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Vought UO-1H: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 14, on fire
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 15, on fire
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1
DD No. 40, Shell hits 2
DD No. 42, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 43, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No. 44

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
BB Indiana
BB Montana, Shell hits 3, on fire
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 1
BB Iowa, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 2
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Concord, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Robinson, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD McKean, Shell hits 3, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BC Amagi, Shell hits 1
BC Akagi
BC Atago, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tatsuta
DD No. 35
DD No. 37
DD No. 39
DD No. 41

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Lea, Shell hits 2, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Vought UO-1H: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BC Amagi
BC Akagi
BC Atago, on fire
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1
DD No. 35
DD No. 37
DD No. 39
DD No. 41

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Shell hits 54, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BC Amagi, Shell hits 1
BC Akagi
BC Atago, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 3
DD No. 35
DD No. 37
DD No. 39, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD No. 41, Shell hits 4

Allied Ships
BB South Carolina, Shell hits 10
CA Charleston, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Missoula, Shell hits 9, on fire
CA Seattle, Shell hits 3
CA Pueblo, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pittsburg, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Vought O2U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BC Amagi, Shell hits 3
BC Akagi
BC Atago, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No. 35, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 37, Shell hits 1
DD No. 39, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 41

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 1, on fire
BC Saratoga
BC Ranger, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
BC Constitution, Shell hits 2
BC United States, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Frederick
CA Huron
DD Fox, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
BC Takao, Shell hits 7, on fire
BC Hiei, Shell hits 4, on fire
BC Haruna, Shell hits 1
CL Yahagi, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
CL Oi, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Yakaze, Shell hits 1
DD No. 10, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DD No. 18

Allied Ships
BB Indiana, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Montana, Shell hits 4, on fire
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 3
BB Iowa, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 1
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit
CL Richmond, on fire
CL Concord, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD McKean, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Vought UO-1H: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Chitose
CL Kiso
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
DD Akikaze
DD No. 4
DD No. 6
DD Momi

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, and is sunk
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Lea, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Chitose
CL Kiso
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu
DD Akikaze
DD No. 4
DD No. 6
DD Momi

Allied Ships
BB South Carolina, on fire
CA Charleston, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Missoula, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Seattle
CA Pueblo, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pittsburg, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Chitose, Shell hits 2
CL Kiso, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
CL Nagara, Shell hits 9, on fire
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Akikaze, Shell hits 2
DD No. 4, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD No. 6
DD Momi

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 9, on fire
BC Saratoga
BC Constitution
BC United States, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CA Frederick, Shell hits 2
CA Huron, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fox, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
DD No.5
DD Yukaze
DD Yomogi
DD Tade, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Kashiwa
DD Katsura, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Kaede, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Sugi, Shell hits 30, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Indiana, on fire, heavy damage
BB Montana, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB North Carolina
BB Iowa, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Massachusetts
BB Colorado, Shell hits 1
BB West Virginia
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Richmond, on fire
CL Concord, and is sunk
DD McKean, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Tone
DD No. 21
DD No. 23
DD No.15
DD Kaya
DD Hishi
DD Kaba
DD Kashi

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Tone, Shell hits 1
DD No. 21, Shell hits 7, on fire
DD No. 23, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD No.15
DD Kaya
DD Hishi, Shell hits 1
DD Kaba
DD Kashi

Allied Ships
BB South Carolina, on fire
CA Charleston, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CA Missoula, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Seattle, Shell hits 1
CA Pueblo, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pittsburg, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma
CL Hirado
DD No.3
DD No.13
DD Kawakaze
DD Numakaze
DD Aoi

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, on fire
BC Saratoga
BC Constitution, Shell hits 1
BC United States, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Frederick
CA Huron, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fox, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 44, on fire, heavy damage
CL Hirado, Shell hits 43, on fire, heavy damage
DD No.3, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
DD No.13, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
DD Numakaze, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
DD Aoi, Shell hits 10, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Indiana, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Montana, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 3
BB Iowa, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 4
BB Colorado, on fire
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 9
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit, Shell hits 4
CL Richmond, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD McKean, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
CL Tone
DD No. 21, on fire
DD No. 23, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD No.15
DD Kaya
DD Hishi, Shell hits 1
DD Kaba
DD Kashi

Allied Ships
BC Lexington, Shell hits 5, on fire
BC Saratoga
BC Constitution
BC United States, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Huntington, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Frederick
CA Huron, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fox, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Sub attack at 46,47

Japanese Ships
SS No. 39

Allied Ships
AK Santa Elisa
DD Pope
DD Moody
SC SC-23
SC SC-2
SC SC-21
SC SC-3
SC SC-17

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Sub attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Torpedo hits 1

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
DD No. 37

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
DD Momi
DD No. 6

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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Sub attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
DD No.5
DD Kashiwa
DD Yomogi
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 47,43

Japanese Ships
DD Kashi
DD Hishi
DD No.15
DD Kaba
DD Kaya

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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Sub attack at 47,45

Japanese Ships
DD No. 42, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-26

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Sub attack near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
SS No. 11

Allied Ships
BB Montana, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 45,47

Japanese Ships
SS No. 38

Allied Ships
DD Zeilin
DD Kane
DD Lichfield
DD Humphreys
DD Trever

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ASW attack at 45,48

Japanese Ships
SS No. 46, hits 4

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Farenholt

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ASW attack near Takao at 48,45

Japanese Ships
SS No. 11

Allied Ships
DD Radford


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Ground combat at Sakashima

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3143 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3213 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

[crsutton]

Ok, since you all asked....[;)]......Here is the skinny. Let the above AAR serve as a testimony to Tankerace's sound advice. He made a solid case for smaller more numerous TF versus large capital ship heavy TF. My opponent had three or four very large TF in this battle with about 10 to 14 ships in each. I had about eight TF with not more than eight ships per TF and usually not more than three capital ships in any force. I was still outnumbered in capital ship by almost three to two but had a marked superiorty of smaller ships. DDs and Cls.

Now go down the AAR carefully and look at the results. Initially, the large American BB TFs came out farily well. However, as they began to accumlate damage, the smaller lightly armed TFs began to gain an edge. The greatest edge is the noticable advantages I was able to gain in surprise attack and attacks that gave me a tactical advantage. ie; crossing the T or very close engagement ranges where the capital ships were vulnerable to torpedoes. By the later rounds where the American capital ships were all damaged and many burning, they were coming into contact with fresh smaller TF and there was a noticeable shift in hit frequency and, even more important, Japanese torpedoes began to slam home in a big way.

Final results had the Japanese lost heavily in DDs -perhaps 10-15 dds and Cls sunk but every Japanese capital ship made it home-quite a few with no damage. No American capital ship escaped severe damage and a lot of them went to the bottom.

We were playing the American vs Japan two month scenario and there is a lot of action in this one. Both of us are new to WPO but he is my favorite and most experienced UV and Witp opponent. The game starts out with both sides having large invasion forces loaded and poised to land. Because the Japanese fleet is very much inferior to the Americans in capital ships, I choose to pull back my invasions and wait for results. My oppent went directly for Takao in Formosa and pulled of a very neat landing and knocked me out of there very quickly.

I was quickly behind in points and had little chance of dislodging his army from Takao. And the Japanese battleline could have no hope of defeating the massive American fleet. I had no choice but to try to attrition him. In spite of his success, my opponent was faced with a very tough chore. He had 90000 troops in Formosa but had to support them and supply them before he had engaged and defeated the Japanese fleet. I had a large airbase one hex away and excellent torpedo bombers. My goal then was to avoid a general action and force him to expose his ships to attrition with my torpedo planes and numberous subs as he had no choice but the keep large numbers of ships in the vicinity of Takao to protect his invasion force and resupply efforts.

The game was really won by my fine torpedo bombers and submarine commanders. By the time of our climatic battle, I had about 30 subs damaged or sunk ( I no longer think sub warfare and ASW is porked) and my airforce was decimated, but had they whittled down his fleet-especially the all important destroyers and was able to go into the final battle with numerical superority. I was still out numbered in capital ships but had a 2-1 advantage in DDs and Cls.

In the end, with the destruction of his fleet my opponent resigned as I had gained a large point advantage and did not even need to defeat the now doomed garrison at Takao.

So there are two lessons learned by both of us. One is that it is tactically a mistake to use large surface TFs. The are at a distinct disadvantage in a battle. This is not new. This was true even back in the days of UV. The second, is that any invasion-even if sucessful, is inviting disaster if you have not defeated or significantly reduced the fighting ability of the enemy fleet.

Hope this helps.

[DuckofTindalos]

True, with the caveat that single large surface TF's can be effective if the enemy only has one or two TF's against yours.