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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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Status of the Combined Fleet 12/43

Fleet Carriers
Name-System damage
Akagi - 0
Kaga - 1
Shokaku - 0
Zuikaku - 5
Taiho - 0
Unryo - 0
Amagi - 0
Katsuragi - 0
Hiyo - 28

Light carriers
Name-System damage
Ryujo - 0
Ryuho - 4
Choyoda - 0

Escort carriers
Name-System damage
Shinyo - 3
Hosho - 0
Taiyo - 0
Unyo - 0
Chuyo - 0

Battleships
Name-System damage
Kongo - 7
Kirishima - 3
Haruna - 15
Hiei - 27
Nagato - 1
Mutsu - 9
Yamato - 3
Musashi - 7
Fuso - 0
Yamashiro - 0
Ise - 15
Hyuga - 4

Heavy cruisers
Name-System damage
Atago - 6
Mikuma - 4
Myoko - 0
Nachi - 7
Takao - 0
Maya - 64
Chokai - 31
Aoba - 50
Kinugasa - 39
Kako - 40

Light cruisers
Name-System damage
Yubari - 0
Oi - 0
Kitakami - 0
Tama - 3
Kiso - 5
Katori - 2
Kashii - 13
Isuzu - 28
Noshiro - 72

As you can see my carriers are in good shape, only the Hiyo needs another month or two in dock.
Most of the battleships are also combat ready but the last 7-8 points of system damage is really difficult to fix as usual.
Important to achive a max speed of 25 or more (max speed of 5 hexes). Half of my heavy cruisers are ready for action, all of the
Aoba's still need another month or two of dock time. The Katori and Kashii are slow training cruisers, so this leaves me with only
5 operational cl's. Can use the large Akitsuki destroyers (3500 tons) as flotilla leaders.

There are currently 35 operational destroyers at Ulithi, another 15-20 are on escort missions or in other ports while the remaining 10-15
are carrying out repairs.

The fleet is therefore combat ready (85%) but I prefer to keep it in port for another few months if possible.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/02/43

Air Combat

Two smaller Jap strikes outside of China:

Day Air attack on Aru Island , at 39,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22
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Day Air attack on 147th USA Regimental Combat Team, at 82,81

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
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Allies continue to hammer the usual targets and Truk receives yet another pounding:

Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 35
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 76

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 4 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 136
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 26
B-24J Liberator x 62

Japanese aircraft losses
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 114
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 79,79

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 46
B-24J Liberator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 48
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Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 19
B-17E Fortress x 6
PB4Y Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
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Ground Combat

Been some enemy troops on Tenimbar (size 0 af base just north of Darwin) for a while. Guess
Andy forgot to bring in combat troops!

Ground combat at Tenimbar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 786 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tenimbar base !!!
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Naval Reinforcements

As you can see my sub fleet will be heavily reinforced over the next 3 months. Good, good!
3 destroyers and a light cruiser isn't much to cheer about though...

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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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The Akizukis should be reserved as carrier escorts. They have(or atleast should have) the best or one of the best AAA ratings of IJN destroyers. Their 3.9DP guns aren't that good in surface combat and they only have four long lance tubes. Also they are worth more points than other dessies and losing them in surface combat is more likely.
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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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Everything that String wrote is correct.
3.9 DP cannot penetrate armor of Fletcher class DDs except for very short distances. But also in short-range combat those guns dont inflict much damage...
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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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But remember John, Andy is getting at least 12 DDs and 6 DEs and a lot of others every month. [:D]
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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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I like the Akitsuki's, they land a lot of hits and can take a lot of damage. AA rating is 254 - this is 100 more
than most other types. So yes, they are my prefered carrier escorts, but the carriers stay in port most of the
year so occasionally they will receive other assignments.

Historically they fought in most of the Pacific campaigns from the Solomons and to the end of the war with distincion.
The 3.9" gun was calibre 60 - and it packs almost the same punch as a 5" in. At least it should have.

Andy needs a lot of destroyers Ken, lots of convoys, carriers and invasions to support. I only hope he shows
a little restraint in his use of PT boats when sufficient destroyers and escorts become available to him.

Otherwise I'm planning an offensive operation: will take some time to put it all together but if things stay quiet
I got a few ideas that shouldn't include too much risk....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/03/43

Air Combat

Same attack patterns as before...
Maloelap is still a thorn in the enemy's side - 3 SBDs shot down by flak today.
Almost impossible to neutralize this little atoll [8D]

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Day Air attack on Maloelap , at 82,81

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 20
SBD Dauntless x 11

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Runway hits 5
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Ground Combat

A combat group retreating towards Hansa conducts a bombardment attack at Madang.
Not that many enemy troops here...

Ground combat at Madang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 759 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10240 troops, 53 guns, 29 vehicles
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Enemy troops at Madang

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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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Doesn't seem like Andy got plans for a land offensive from Madang. He's very passive
all over the Pacific. Must be planning something big while receiving substantial reinforcements.

Almost 2 years since the war started...getting closer to the half way mark!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/04/43

Bombardments

10 barges were sunk at Kwajalein and Kavieng today before the surface groups.
The bombardment of the former base was rather impotent though.

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Naval bombardment of Kwajalein, at 79,79

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
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Air Combat

Found the remnants of a Indian HQ not far from Karachi. Target practice...

Day Air attack on IND IV Corps, at 23,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on Aru Island , at 39,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 15

Allied aircraft - evaded these LRCAP Spits
Spitfire Vb x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 2
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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 42
B-17E Fortress x 18
B-24D Liberator x 39

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 100
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 7
B-24J Liberator x 41

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 95
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20
B-24J Liberator x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 97
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Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 24
B-17E Fortress x 9
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 19

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35
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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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The Kaga has sortied from Japan loaded with air group reinforcements! The battleships
will remain behind to repair all sys damage: I NEED the four Kongo class ships in perfect running
order. 30 kt speed = 6 hex movement radius.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/05/43

Air Combat

The attacks against the Marshalls were especially heavy today:

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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 79,79

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 19

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 79,79

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 6
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein Base Force, at 79,79

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 21
P-38G Lightning x 4
P-47C Thunderbolt x 17
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 16
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24D Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-47D Thunderbolt: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein Base Force, at 79,79

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 28
B-25J Mitchell x 43
B-24J Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 8th Hvy Field Artillery Regiment, at 79,79

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7
P-40N Warhawk x 40
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-47C Thunderbolt x 33
P-47D Thunderbolt x 11
PB4Y Liberator x 14
B-24D Liberator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged
P-40N Warhawk: 2 damaged
P-47C Thunderbolt: 1 damaged
P-47D Thunderbolt: 1 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 35th Heavy AA Battalion, at 79,79

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 12
P-38G Lightning x 2
P-47C Thunderbolt x 8
P-47D Thunderbolt x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24D Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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The small Betty unit on Wotje got wiped out by a heavy CAP today - seems like Andy is getting on the move!

Day Air attack on TF at 85,84

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 29
F4U-1 Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 85,84

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide
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Ground Combat

Thx for the ride Andy - the partial unit got kicked into Hansa - were I wanted it [;)]
Ground combat at Madang

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6840 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 736 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 558 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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The Marshalls

My guess is that Andy will move into the Marshalls in force! He needs those bases to open the path into the Marianas!
I'm not going to poor more troops and ships in but air units will be moved into the ring of mutually supporting bases.
Should be quite a few opportunities to pick of stragglers and undefended ships.

The atolls themselves all have 9 forts, lots of supplies and good LCUs. My only wish is that they delay the Allies for as
long as possible. Evacuating a construction unit from Eniwetok right now. An aviation unit will follow suit since Kwajalein is
closed for business and will most likely remain so.

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RE: Idaho and Colorado vs Ms Betty

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Not much to report, nothing to do but wait for Andy's next invasion to begin.
The quezstion is how to react - but that depends on where he invades. Think patience
is important, no matter what he does we're going to let him wait!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/06/43

Air Combat

For the first time a small strike hit Kusaie Island!

Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Marshall invasion force spotted

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As I assumed Andy is going into the Marshalls in force! Said he's bringing a heavy hammer to
make sure to prevent another bogged down (Maloelap) operation. Probably a good idea...

I only got a single base force and LCU on most of the atolls (except for Kwajalein) but with 9
forts it's not an easy job to suppress them.

Only smaller units of Betties will attempt to hit the enemy from now on.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/43

Air Combat

An enemy invasion force started to move towards Kwajalein? today...a massive 300 ac
CAP cut down one small 5 ac strike and a slightly bigger one with 20 Oscars and 13 Bettys.
No leakers will ever penetrate this type of screen...

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Day Air attack on TF at 82,82

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 266
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
P-40N Warhawk x 14
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 82,82

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 266
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
P-40N Warhawk x 18
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 13 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 20 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged
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Kwajalein Defenses

Here is an accurate overview of the defensive units scattered around the Kwajalein atolls.
Most of them are in perfect shape as the Allied bombers have hit my AA and arty units.


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RE: Marshall invasion force spotted

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hum that doesn't look like enough to stop a hammer... What's with the ART rgt, it looks pretty small ?

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RE: Marshall invasion force spotted

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John, this is what size and composition of ACTF I would expect Andy to bring( I have not read his AAR in a while so I am not really giving you any info from him, just what I would have from your AAR )

He should be able to put 4 of these together and still have some BBs and CA left for SCTFs.


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RE: Marshall invasion force spotted

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The reason my artillery unit is so small Veji is that Andy has bombed it repeatedly for months [:'(]
Those LCUs are pretty good, but I don't think Andy will come short handed this time.

I'm aware of the growing strenght of the Allies Ken and that's the reason why I decided to keep the Combined Fleet
in port and watch the debacle unfold. Told Andy I considered sending the entire fleet after him...should keep him on his toes [;)]

Pretty certain that I would have lost more than I can afford if I decided to intervene. My damaged ships would have been hunted down
by enemy carriers at sea or in port and the KB is no longer capable of engaging the US carrier fleet without substantial suppport from
LBA. The atolls in the Marshalls can not provide this support.

So Andy can wear his army and navy down occupying the Marshalls while we rest, repair and prepare for the decisive battles that will come
in 1944. Believe me, it was difficult to subdue my samurai spirit, but it's only logical to save our strength at this stage. When the Marianas
or the Philippines comes under attack we will face and defeat the enemy in a great battle!

Thinking about training a few select air units in China until they reach an average of 90 exp and try to use them in a night role.
Spotted a couple of enemy transports near the Kormoran islands today - sending 2 destroyers to intercept them.

The Kaga joined the fleet at Ulithi..thinking about sending out a fast carrier force towards Andys invasion force to scare him. Perhaps we can
make him divide his fleets and create opportunities for our LBA?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/43

Enemy invasion force

The TFs just below the ones on the picture contains more carriers! Looks like the whole US fleet is on the move.

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RE: Marshall invasion force spotted

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Maybe you should evac the 6th fleet. It will not help you in combat but could help somewhere else .
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As soeren01 says, you might consider withdrawing the 6th Fleet HQ.
Oh and 24th Air Flotilla HQ as well. No point in sacrificing them at this point. Use air transports out of Eniwetok to pick them up then FT them back to Marianna's. - just a thought from an avid AAR follower.
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I've been evacuating a construction and AA unit with barges...airfields at Kwajalein are closed so air transport hasn't
been an option for a while. Thought Andy would finish at Maloelap before turning to the 'capital' of the Marshalls. So I'm not
sure it'll be possible to get the HQs out in time.

Thx for reading guys! [8D]
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As I think, with airfield closed it is still possible to evac at least fragment of HQ with your flying boats... At least allies can with their Catalinas. Think you should at least try it.
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flying boats are good idea - I'd evac cadres of each HQ and even each unit if your pools are not dry
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ORIGINAL: Sneer

flying boats are good idea - I'd evac cadres of each HQ and even each unit if your pools are not dry

good idea ! , the HK6 Mavis transports would be ideal for this job. HUGH range and 1/2 decent load too.
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ORIGINAL: Nomad

John, this is what size and composition of ACTF I would expect Andy to bring( I have not read his AAR in a while so I am not really giving you any info from him, just what I would have from your AAR )

He should be able to put 4 of these together and still have some BBs and CA left for SCTFs.


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ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
ORIGINAL: Sneer

flying boats are good idea - I'd evac cadres of each HQ and even each unit if your pools are not dry

good idea ! , the HK6 Mavis transports would be ideal for this job. HUGH range and 1/2 decent load too.

Do you have any of the H6K-L2 Mavis Transports? Nice long range. Tinas are nice too. What size is the airfield?
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