Put your money where your mouth is

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"Burn the mill! Burn the mill! Kill the monster!" - or something to that effect from Frankenstein

A miraculous invention killed at the hands of the mob.[:)]
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No Boycott from me...the main pertinant question will be "Can I afford it?" [:(]

I'm more likely to not buy it because of unit overload, or requirement for too much PC, or because it's designed as PBEM only ([;)] just kidding!). WitP has flaws, some of which have been introduced by attempts to solve other problems - but it's still a really good game.

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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Sorry, but I cannot sit by and simply watch 2by3 have their name dragged through the mud. IMHO I have had great value for money from playing WiTP (and UV for that matter). YES there are still some issues but if you really want to get down to brass tacks there are even some issues STILL with Harpoon (as way of example). All of you just think back....has there ever been a game that has not had some points that could do with a change? And to be fair 2by3 have never abandoned WiTP....they have brought out patches in response to customers demands and have committed to continue to do so.

Matrix will STILL get my gaming $.

Ditto

As to threatening to boycott, all I can say is horse$hit.

That idea is right up there with a previous thread that insulted Mike Wood’s ( [&o][&o][&o] ) competence and integrity in order to convince him to spend more time on WitP.
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I will remind folks that it was a choice made by the community here that caused focus to shift from fixing bugs to adding new features instead. It's a little late in the day to come back and say "Guess we should have voted fix bugs and leave the feature set alone"

Sometimes what you ask for actually happens and suddenly the consequences are not quite what you thought they would be. A tough lesson to learn ...

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Lt. Calley was fond of threats too. [8|]
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Hey Matrix, how about the North African Campaign? At company level, that would be great!

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes[&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o]

Ok, when it's done, how about a PBEM?[:D]
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I would not take these boycott posts too seriously aside from one thing. These folks are just peed off and rightfully so. Can they honestly be blamed? I'd take the discontent to heart and satisfy the consumer, at least to the point where the product works and remotely lives up to what it was advertised as.
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You gotta be kidding Ron?!?[:-]

Talk about lack of respect and appreciation for what a company does. The fact that so much support, improvement and listening has been implemented by Matrix Games signifies so much. Then people have IMO the audacity to say they are going to boycott buying more Matrix products. Riiiiight. Makes total sense[8|]
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Well I have been playing computer games for a long time and I have never spent as much time playing a game as I did and am on witp. Even if I was not to play one more turn I personally got all the value for my money that I could wish for.

WITP does have issues and I wish that at least some of them could be solved, in the meantime all I can say is that if I derived as much personal enjoyment for every dollar I ever spent as I did from this game then I would trully be a very happy person, I would marry, buy a house, build a picket fence, have two cars and downgrade my current car to 8 cylindars in order to help the environment.[:D]
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You gotta be kidding Ron?!?[:-]

Talk about lack of respect and appreciation for what a company does. The fact that so much support, improvement and listening has been implemented by Matrix Games signifies so much. Then people have IMO the audacity to say they are going to boycott buying more Matrix products. Riiiiight. Makes total sense[8|]

What the hell did I say that was so bad? I basically said most people are just venting frustration with the game and the ongoing problems associated with it since release almost TWO YEARS AGO. I don't really blame them for being frustrated as I'm frustrated on a daily basis with the game but I still play it and would like to see it brought up to snuff. I personally think they are venting their frustration more than actually "threatening" Matrix/2by3. Any reasonable person would see it so. Stop circling the wagons and take it for what it is.
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Stop circling the wagons and take it for what it is.

I do. It's a wonderful game on the War in the Pacific. Is it perfect? No. Does it have flaws? Yes. Can I live with it? Most definitely. Will I buy more of their games? Absolutely!
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You get taken off "the list" for that one. [:D]

no more comments about eating little horses though......[:-]
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

You get taken off "the list" for that one. [:D]

no more comments about eating little horses though......[:-]

Oh, ok......
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Stop circling the wagons and take it for what it is.

I do. It's a wonderful game on the War in the Pacific. Is it perfect? No. Does it have flaws? Yes. Can I live with it? Most definitely. Will I buy more of their games? Absolutely!

I meant take the threat of a boycott for what it is, frustration. I personally don't think a boycott, if a serious stance, is very constructive or conducive to a favourable resolution of the current problems with this game.
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I personally don't think a boycott, if a serious stance, is very constructive or conducive to a favourable resolution of the current problems with this game.

no more comments about eating little horses though......


I have just come up with a devious plan....................
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

You get taken off "the list" for that one. [:D]

no more comments about eating little horses though......[:-]

Did I miss a thread on steak au cheval someplace? Delicious....[:'(]

edit: ohh, of course: The Thread....
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ORIGINAL: moses
I personally don't think a boycott, if a serious stance, is very constructive or conducive to a favourable resolution of the current problems with this game.

no more comments about eating little horses though......


I have just come up with a devious plan....................

Uh oh.[:(]
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Irrelevent....added to the list.

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Locking this up. Thanks for your feedback, both negative nad positive, but this is one of those types of topics that is inevitably going to get nasty.

Although I'm starting to get tired of repeating myself, I understand that the view is different from my seat vs. yours so I'll say these things again:

1. We are not going to abandon WitP
2. The v1.80 update will be completed
3. We have something in the works for WitP that should make a number of you happy (at least I hope so).

Please be patient until we're ready to post v1.80 and discuss/announce #3.

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