Proposed scenario - 1907

[Rysyonok]

HMS Dreadnought was a disaster for IJN. Overnight, its fleet became obsolete. Given the poor state of Japanese economics and high costs of the Russo-Japanese war, the future was glum.

Japan had to attack now - while its fleet was still comparable to Europe and USA.

Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions?

[jwilkerson]

Japan had alliance with Britain at this time - and she was replacing losses from RJW - Japan was very dependent upon Britain for her Navy at this point - the IJN was in many ways the RN-East - certainly attacking Britain would be the height of folly - if somebody needed to be attacked, maybe China again.

[JagdFlanker]

mabe the USA should be the big bunch of jerks and attack somebody for once! they'v always had lots of power and nowhere to use it, why couldn't there have been a really bad choice for president and he decides to to carve out his own empire out of the far eastern pacific? and japan has to hold off the usa and interdict the supply to the PI until the big british fleet comes in?

just an idea!

[Rysyonok]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Japan had alliance with Britain at this time - and she was replacing losses from RJW - Japan was very dependent upon Britain for her Navy at this point - the IJN was in many ways the RN-East - certainly attacking Britain would be the height of folly - if somebody needed to be attacked, maybe China again.

Well, the only losses from RJW were 2 BBs lost near Port Arthur, and 2 new Katori-class ships took care of that. 1907 is also when all the captured Russian vessels have been mostly refitted.

At the same time.

All major US ships are in Atlantic.

All major British ships are West of Gibraltar.

Token German presense.

Token Dutch presense.

Token Russian presense.

Japan literally had a free hand at doing anything they wanted to... China? It's a possibility, but where's the battleship action in that? =)

[Rysyonok]

ORIGINAL: Flanker Leader

mabe the USA should be the big bunch of jerks and attack somebody for once! they'v always had lots of power and nowhere to use it, why couldn't there have been a really bad choice for president and he decides to to carve out his own empire out of the far eastern pacific? and japan has to hold off the usa and interdict the supply to the PI until the big british fleet comes in?

just an idea!

Interesting =) With the American philosophy of having all of its fleet at one location that means battleships in Manila... interesting

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Japan had alliance with Britain at this time - and she was replacing losses from RJW - Japan was very dependent upon Britain for her Navy at this point - the IJN was in many ways the RN-East - certainly attacking Britain would be the height of folly - if somebody needed to be attacked, maybe China again.

Well, the only losses from RJW were 2 BBs lost near Port Arthur, and 2 new Katori-class ships took care of that. 1907 is also when all the captured Russian vessels have been mostly refitted.

At the same time.

All major US ships are in Atlantic.

All major British ships are West of Gibraltar.

Token German presense.

Token Dutch presense.

Token Russian presense.

Japan literally had a free hand at doing anything they wanted to... China? It's a possibility, but where's the battleship action in that? =)

Well these thoughts are one reason why my 1900s scenario is billed as a "fantasy" scenario ( not-even semi-plausible alternate history - just pure fantasy - of course all the ships will be historical - but nothing else - the requirement for the ships is that the ship must have been in service by 12/1899 - the scenario starts 1/1900 - I wanted to do 1895 - but the engine can't handle that date - yet ).

[Rysyonok]

*grumble* I guess I'll do RJW instead.

P.S. How come you can't do 1895 anyway, just assume year 0 = 1895, so when we see 1910 in the top right corner it's actually 1905, etc?

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

*grumble* I guess I'll do RJW instead.

P.S. How come you can't do 1895 anyway, just assume year 0 = 1895, so when we see 1910 in the top right corner it's actually 1905, etc?

Since it is fantasy you could do that. Other reason was the person who has agreed to play it with me voted for 1900 ( instead of 1895 ). RJW is probably best option if you want something historical though I think Tanker is working on that one also ... Are you going to do new art, devices, all needed ships, troops etc. ? Certainly do-able but it is not a tiny amount of work !

[Rysyonok]

He is? Are you sure?

Devices can be substituted, more or less... after all, once you get down to small-caliber guns, it's all the same.

Art is pretty generic too - I have a bunch of RJW sites to refer to if necessary.

Historical data is going to be an issue - I know for a fact that IJN had a ton of TBs back then but where are their stats? I'm waiting for the 1860 Conway to come in.

Oh well, it's all just in the realm of thought so far anyway =)

Thanks

[Rysyonok]

After realizing just how much is involved in doing RJW scenario, I switched to a fantasy Spanish-Dutch engagement...

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