This is War King 'Nana!

[*Lava*]

I have ordered... after much thought... and many months repairing our ships... to order the High Seas Fleet to patrol the North Atlantic.

A brief, inconclusive naval encounter occurs during transit through the North Sea.



Ray (alias "The Kaiser" Lava)

[James Ward]

ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

How much morale do you lose per point of food you are short?

1 per point of food you're lacking.

Isn't wavering 40 morale or less?

Between 20% and 40%

Is that a permenant reduction?
If you lift the blockade will you gain morale for having excess food?

[FrankHunter]

Is that a permenant reduction?

Yes

If you lift the blockade will you gain morale for having excess food?

No, it will just stop dropping.

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

Is that a permenant reduction?

Yes

If you lift the blockade will you gain morale for having excess food?

No, it will just stop dropping.

Ouch!

[*Lava*]

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Ouch!

I feel your pain.

My imperial subjects have a long memory as well.

Ray (alias "The Kaiser" Lava)

[*Lava*]

ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

Is that a permenant reduction?

Yes

Hate to question the designer...

But I have seen Austria regain morale from wavering to good by reconquering a major city (Trieste) that it had lost.

So, I would think that "yes" it is permanent from a food standpoint in that excess supply won't change it, but battlefield fortune can.

At least, that is what I have seen in this PBEM game.

Ray (alias "The Kaiser" Lava)

[James Ward]

It does seem odd that you can't recover any of the lost morale from food shortages. A breif interuption wouldn't necessarily scar people for life!
On the other hand there aren't many ways to get Britain to lose morale. If you're tkaing British cities then a little food shortage would be the least of their problems [:)]

[*Lava*]

ORIGINAL: James Ward

A breif interuption wouldn't necessarily scar people for life.

Ohhh...

You don't know the Brits!

[;)]

Ray (alias "The Kaiser" Lava)

[EUBanana]

Entente offensive efforts step up a notch.  The Russians attack all across the front in Prussia.  Minimal gains are made but there are heavy casualties on both sides.  Russian artillery, what little they have, joins in the chorus of death.

That'll Do.

On the Western Front massive artillery barrages rain down on the Boche as the French and British artillery corps give it their all with several impulses of maximum effort bombardments.



Casualties are now 4.2 million CP to about 4.9 million Entente.

[FrankHunter]

S

o, I would think that "yes" it is permanent from a food standpoint in that excess supply won't change it, but battlefield fortune can.

haha, question me all you want   My feeling was that getting food to eat would not make you support the war.  But lack of food could turn you against it.  Once food is available again there were 3 possibilities I could have taken, a) Keep dropping morale because people are "scarred".  b) Increase morale because people don't expect to be able to eat  and the Kaiser (or whoever) therefore must be a god or c) no effect.  I went with "c"

[*Lava*]

But Frank...

Can't the UK pull up it's morale by winning on the battlefield?

As I say, that is what happened in my game with Austria.

Ray (alias "The questioning Kaiser" Lava)

[*Lava*]

Well...

The Russians appear to have made a slight breakthrough in the vicinity of Berlin...

Apparently... I have miscalculated...



Ray (alias "The Kaiser" Lava)

[FrankHunter]

Can't the UK pull up it's morale by winning on the battlefield?

Yes, capturing territory and making other powers surrender does tend to make people cheerier.

[EUBanana]

Italian Front - very heavily dug in but almost no opposition, the Ities aren't moving though.

Western Front - fairly heavily dug in on my side, not so heavily on the German side.  The Germans are being bled here, assaults are fairly limited.

Eastern Front - Not much artillery in play here.  The Russians periodically batter themselves against the German lines. Every so often, not all the time, they advance a hex.
Only 2 hexes to Berlin though...

Caucasus Front - Quiet after taking a couple of Ottoman towns.

Mesopotamian Front - Some ANZACS have advanced up to Jerusalem and are now staying put.

Sea War - The High Seas Fleet has been sortied it seems, so the Entente navies sally forth. Fortunately a fair few naval assets have been built up.

[SMK-at-work]

ORIGINAL: James Ward

It does seem odd that you can't recover any of the lost morale from food shortages. A breif interuption wouldn't necessarily scar people for life!

I can ratinalise it without too much bother.....food is a necessity...control of Trieste is not......if food ever runs out people are going to remember it for a long time - witness the Depression generation and how long they had their behaviour "modified".

Lack of food would cause dissent....which would at least fester if hte situation was rectified....hoarding, increase in black market activities...

All in all I can see good arguments why lack of food would give a permanent drop in morale.

[*Lava*]

Well...

I can smell a knockout coming...

... the question is who?



Ray (alias "sucking up the smelling salts - Kaiser" Lava)

[TheBlackhorse]

Who????? Er, I don't think anyone of us believes it's going to be the TE....unless you've managed to research THE BOMB...

[James Ward]

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

ORIGINAL: James Ward

It does seem odd that you can't recover any of the lost morale from food shortages. A breif interuption wouldn't necessarily scar people for life!

I can ratinalise it without too much bother.....food is a necessity...control of Trieste is not......if food ever runs out people are going to remember it for a long time - witness the Depression generation and how long they had their behaviour "modified".

Lack of food would cause dissent....which would at least fester if hte situation was rectified....hoarding, increase in black market activities...

All in all I can see good arguments why lack of food would give a permanent drop in morale.

From a game point of view I understand why it was done. There really aren't many ways to reduce British morale. Very few capital ships are lost and if the Brits are losing their cities then they are screwed anyway.
It appears that the TE is doing very well in this game, lots of CP town taken, France alive and advancing, the CP on the ropes yet Britain appears to have permanently lost about 60% of their starting morale. If they are still short of food they may surrender the same turn the TE wins the game! [:)]

[Joel Rauber]

Britain surrendered to me once, apparently from just being starved out.

Looking at the morale I see that Bulgaria is poised to lead the CP coalition[:)]

[arabiamark]

Perhaps it's time for the good Kaiser to start looking into Dutch real estate?