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DrewMatrix · Post by **DrewMatrix** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:07 pm

ORIGINAL: witpqs
And don't get me started on "Boise".

"Boise" isn't a real problem. BB-42 ("Idaho") is, however.

pmelheck1 · Post by **pmelheck1** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:09 pm

My problem with the whole PC issue is that it addresses speech but not what causes said speech.  We have allways had and will always have nuts, bigots ect.  Before PC they normally spoke their minds.  Not always to their targets but very often to those around them.  PC abores their speech but not their motives.  I have worked with many people who were very bigoted but by using PC covered it up.  I discovered many of these bigots only after they had destroyed peoples lives due to their hatreds but would smile and make nice and were very PC while they were doing all in there power behind the scenes to hurt groups they didn't like.  There is still many unresolved issues around the world today but lets cover them over with flowery speech because someone is offended.

Sorry, I'll climb off my soap box now.

Historiker · Post by **Historiker** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:39 pm

I like this discussion and this topic.
It had shoed me that there are still enouigh people who hat PC as much as I do! Thanks gents! [&o]

Mike Scholl · Post by **Mike Scholl** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:52 pm

ORIGINAL: Terminus
I think "PC" is dyslexic (sorry, "grammatically challenged", or whatever the current ******** phrase is) for "BS".

Finally something we can both agree on..., "PC" is a crock of "BS"! [:D]

witpqs · Post by **witpqs** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:55 pm

Remember the movie Blazing Saddles? The very essence of the movie is that they made a total mockery of racism and bigotry. See the movie today (on most channels) and it's neutered by bleeping out all the non-PC terms.

The PC crowd is running around with stupidity. Much more dangerous than running with scissors or your choice of firearm.

Terminus · Post by **Terminus** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:31 pm

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Remember the movie Blazing Saddles? The very essence of the movie is that they made a total mockery of racism and bigotry. See the movie today (on most channels) and it's neutered by bleeping out all the non-PC terms.

Thankfully we're not that primitive here... Yet...[:@]

timtom · Post by **timtom** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:58 pm

Begs the question: Which, if any, terms would one consider beyond the pale (apologies in advance to any Irishperson or person of Irish descent)?

Possibly the term "Jap" is in violation of forum policy, which includes "No foul language or any type of language that would be consider [sic] abusive this includes any materials which are knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, sexual oriented, vulgar, obscene, hateful, harassing, profane, racist, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or that otherwise violates any local, state, national or international law or regulation."

Jonathan Pollard · Post by **Jonathan Pollard** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:14 pm

Here's Tom Lehrer's song about National Brotherhood Week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgASBVMyVFI

(From a performance in Norway in 1967)

ckammp · Post by **ckammp** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 pm

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sfbaytf · Post by **sfbaytf** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 pm

This should be discussed. Too many simply avoid it. I agree with mullk. I'd rather know upfront if someone doesn't like me, instead of pretending to be my friend or like me.

Right now in the states there are a lot of issues surrounding this as it relates to illegal immigration, crime and a wide array of other subjects.

It is a very touchy subject though and I think most would just rather ignore it.

Anyway I've said enough. I'm going to stick to the game issues from here on out.

stuman · Post by **stuman** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:06 am

ORIGINAL: Jonathan Pollard

Here's Tom Lehrer's song about National Brotherhood Week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgASBVMyVFI

(From a performance in Norway in 1967)

Pretty funny.

Zakhal · Post by **Zakhal** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:08 am

ORIGINAL: witpqs

So how do the reindeer feel about that?

Reindeers are eaten, delicious.

Shark7 · Post by **Shark7** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:49 am

Ya know, I've about decided this is 100% true:

'If you have a problem with someone go take a look in the mirror and you'll see the cause of your problem staring right back at you.'

You choose to be offended or not be offended, it really is your choice.

CMDRMCTOAST · Post by **CMDRMCTOAST** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:08 am

Are we there yet ?????????

timtom · Post by **timtom** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:37 am

ORIGINAL: ckammp

ORIGINAL: timtom

Begs the question: Which, if any, terms would one consider beyond the pale (apologies in advance to any Irishperson or person of Irish descent)?

Possibly the term "Jap" is in violation of forum policy, which includes "No foul language or any type of language that would be consider [sic] abusive this includes any materials which are knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, sexual oriented, vulgar, obscene, hateful, harassing, profane, racist, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or that otherwise violates any local, state, national or international law or regulation."

So, you are now the Matrix PC policeman?

The word "Jap" offends you, because 65 years ago it was used in Allied propaganda?
And today, it is used on this forum by posters only as an abbreviation for "Japanese"; But, so what? It must be banned!
You alone, in your wisdom, decide what is good and what is bad.
I fear now to post anything, lest you disapprove.

Matrix has provided your sensitive soul with a little green button; why don't you use it, since you seem to be so easily offended?

This PC crap has gone too far; I'll have to enjoy WitP:AE without this forum.

Pardon? [&:]

Mike Scholl · Post by **Mike Scholl** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:36 am

ORIGINAL: timtom

ORIGINAL: ckammp

So, you are now the Matrix PC policeman?

The word "Jap" offends you, because 65 years ago it was used in Allied propaganda?
And today, it is used on this forum by posters only as an abbreviation for "Japanese"; But, so what? It must be banned!
You alone, in your wisdom, decide what is good and what is bad.
I fear now to post anything, lest you disapprove.

Matrix has provided your sensitive soul with a little green button; why don't you use it, since you seem to be so easily offended?

This PC crap has gone too far; I'll have to enjoy WitP:AE without this forum.

Pardon? [&:]

Rather harsh for a guy with only 85 posts? I wonder if "Ckammp" was someone from the old "MadCow" crew just trying to stir things up?

Terminus · Post by **Terminus** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:58 am

Or he overlooked the little ";)" at the end of Timtom's post. That's what you get when you don't use the smileys provided.

wdolson · Post by **wdolson** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:15 am

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
The Japanese people I know consider the "short" version used by some to be disrespectful, that is how I got educated. But they may not bother to bring it up on the forum. "Shouting" into the wind isn't very profitable.

I grew up in the city that boasts the highest percentage Asian population in the US, Monterey Park, CA. I knew a lot of Japanese and most regarded "Jap" as a racial slur. Many of my neighbors were in internment camps during the war. "Jap" and "Nip" were used as racial slurs during the war and the context hadn't changed for them through the years.

If I abbreviate Japan, I tend to use Jpn, which is often used as an international abbreviation for the country today, just as USA or UK are used.

Bill

treespider · Post by **treespider** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:15 am

Dang...why did I waste another 30 seconds of my life looking in here?

Historiker · Post by **Historiker** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:20 am

ORIGINAL: treespider

Dang...why did I waste another 30 seconds of my life looking in here?

It's somehow addictive, no? [;)]

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