Clash in Finland. Aztez (A) vs Sardaukar (J). CHS + NIK

[Sardaukar]

BTW, might take to Monday before i can show Aztez the foolishness of Chinese assault in 1941... Err...might take to 1942 when the inherent supply in those units run out...[:D]

[aztez]

Foolishness! [:D][:D] You will not conquer China in no means. Soon your supply routes will be cut off and the army of Japan is running towards the coastline.
 
The Zero pilot experience is one thing and the other the leaking CAP. [8|]
 
You are in more trouble than you think off! [;)]
 
Yeah, we agreed to have this one semi-historical so SF have wait until January as Sardaukar said! [8D]

[Rob Brennan UK]

Thanks for the replies guys, as you know i have a nikmod game on hold so im aware of that one and its interesting that you said it was nikmodesque .. so rather similar i'd assume but not identical?

have fun

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

Thanks for the replies guys, as you know i have a nikmod game on hold so im aware of that one and its interesting that you said it was nikmodesque .. so rather similar i'd assume but not identical?

have fun

I think Sardaukar has more knowledge about this. But yes they should be similar but not identical as you stated. (To my knowledge at least)

[Sardaukar]

Rob, check the Andrew Brown's page about Scen 160 and differences between NikMod. He has also scenarios that implement NikMod without changes.

[Sardaukar]

No time to play WitP today, but will get the files to Aztez tomorrow.

[Rob Brennan UK]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Rob, check the Andrew Brown's page about Scen 160 and differences between NikMod. He has also scenarios that implement NikMod without changes.

thanks ! hadn't thought to look there

[Sardaukar]

Aztez's subs are proving to be a menace already !

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

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Sub attack at 36,44

Japanese Ships
AP Chihaya Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ootori

Allied Ships
SS S-41

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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
SS Tarpon, hits 5, on fire

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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
SS Tarpon

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Coastal Guns at Davao, 43,61, firing at TF 9
TF 9 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 43,61


12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kuroshio

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 23rd Group Army, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G4M1 Betty x 83
C5M Babs x 3
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
G4M1 Betty x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 23rd Chinese Corps, at 50,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Scout
PG Moth

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,49

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 15
Ki-48-I Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DM Thracian, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Malacca at 22,48

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Federlock, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Smith, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Dumaguete, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Smith, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Dumaguete, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
SS Tarpon, hits 1, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 46,46

Japanese Ships
AK Hoeisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

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TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 77,95


Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Rabaul

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13647 troops, 57 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Defending force 4014 troops, 8 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Japanese max assault: 99 - adjusted assault: 48

Allied max defense: 13 - adjusted defense: 27

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1


Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42244 troops, 182 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 1073

Defending force 2721 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 1094 - adjusted assault: 705

Allied max defense: 52 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 235 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
3119 casualties reported
Guns lost 14


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Ground combat at Tatung

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21064 troops, 59 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 567

Defending force 26335 troops, 131 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 730

Japanese max assault: 602 - adjusted assault: 507

Allied max defense: 756 - adjusted defense: 89

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1000 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Tavoy

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7883 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 200

Defending force 1389 troops, 15 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese max assault: 191 - adjusted assault: 81

Allied max defense: 3 - adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tavoy base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Rabaul

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 854 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 13466 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 163



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Ground combat at Davao

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2858 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 82

Defending force 5151 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 111

Allied max assault: 81 - adjusted assault: 19

Japanese max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 97

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1



Allied ground losses:
315 casualties reported
Guns lost 11


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Ground combat at Nauru Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 811 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 48 - adjusted assault: 14

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nauru Island base !!!

[Sardaukar]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41


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Coastal Guns at Davao, 43,61, firing at TF 9
TF 9 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 43,61


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Night Time Surface Combat at 45,47

Japanese Ships
DD Chidori, Shell hits 6
DD Manazuru, Shell hits 1
PC Kyo Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #11, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Brisbane Maru
AP Kyuden Maru, Shell hits 5

Allied Ships
PT PT-34
PT PT-35
PT PT-41
PT PT-45
PT PT-46
PT PT-47
PT PT-48, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT Q 111, heavy damage
PT MTB 7
PT MTB 8
PT MTB 11, heavy damage
PT MTB 26

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Davao, 43,61, firing at TF 11
TF 11 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 43,61


Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 23rd Group Army, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 91

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 21 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
G4M1 Betty x 84
C5M Babs x 4
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 23rd Chinese Corps, at 50,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 47,31

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 9
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 30,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
G4M1 Betty x 23
Ki-21-II Sally x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Scout
PG Moth, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu Island at 43,57

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Dumaguete, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Malacca at 22,48

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Federlock, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 30,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21-II Sally x 21

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iloilo at 42,56

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Antonio, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Rabaul

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13687 troops, 57 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Defending force 3908 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Japanese max assault: 130 - adjusted assault: 63

Allied max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rabaul base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Davao

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2478 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 7269 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 170

[Sardaukar]

Kind of normal turns for Dec 1941. Nothing too radical happening, IJA juggernaut grinds forward in Malaya...[8D]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Kind of normal turns for Dec 1941. Nothing too radical happening, IJA juggernaut grinds forward in Malaya...[8D]

True. I'am showing some mercy to you so you better be grateful! [:D]

[Rob Brennan UK]

Rabaul went earlier than stock .. bunus for sadukar there .. well done , you also seem to have caught the british DD/DM ex hong kong group today too. that must be a bonus.

How are the allies off for DM's . as i consider them darn valuable the loss of 1 is a bit of a blow ( even though its a extra brit one).

The only bad thing on joint threads is no pictures .. and sub attack at 65,234 or whatever is a bit meaningless without them. Its hard enough tracking those in game [;)].. long like bhodis utility. Which like my brain i don't engage it enough while playing.

have fun

[Sardaukar]

Allies do not have size 9 ports to reload minelayers in hand. Unless Aztez wants to build up Soerabaja for me !![:D]

[Rob Brennan UK]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Allies do not have size 9 ports to reload minelayers in hand. Unless Aztez wants to build up Soerabaja for me !![:D]

I do it as allies [:D].. but its an 8 already so no great stretch and i do like my mines [;)]

[VSWG]

ORIGINAL: Patch 1.7beta What's New

9) Mine laying tenders (MLE) may now service ships of any nationality.

[/hint]

[;)]

[Sardaukar]

No MLEs for Allies yet, either. And takes few months to get first ones...or 180 days if converting...[8D]

[VSWG]

There's one in XXXXXXXX in my version of CHS.

[VSWG]

Hey, nice ninja edit, Sardaukar!

[Sardaukar]

Don't tell Aztez there is MLE...yes, there seem to be one in Trincomalee, me thinks.

[aztez]

[:D] ...Sardaukar will not get any freebies in this game. Minelayers... hmpf, I think I have some of them around!
 
Cannot guarantee that Tricomlalee is correct though! [;)]
 
As you said Rob... This is mutual AAR so you wohn't get as many details at least not once it happens!
 
Sardaukar also got lucky in Central China. Those +20 000 Chinese soldiers were not ordered to march into Tatung! No, but the AI decieded use a more "adventureous" route! [:@][X(]