Rise of the Sheep! JocMeister(A) vs. Obvert(J)
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RE: Balikpapan
Best of luck and with the frustrations I've experienced in Burma I hear you and hope for the best!
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RE: Balikpapan
[font="Verdana"]8th November -44[/font]
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The main event is of course the capture of Balikpapan.
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Borneo
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I shouldn´t have shocked attacked of course. Learning by doing I guess! [:)]
My troops will have to rest for a couple of days before heading out for Samarinda. That will be another shock attack across the river. Ah well.
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Marianas
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Good bombardment at Guam! These often happen right after I deliberate attack.
I hope the base will fall during the next attack. But my troops needs rest. Lots of it. Two of the IDs are more or less shot with disruption and fatigue over 50. Once the armor recovers I might try an attack with only armor.
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Mindanao
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Second attack at Davao goes in. Results are good but my troops will need to rest. Very annoying with the movement bug sending 1 ID and all armor the wrong way. [:(]
We also accidently closed Naga AF using B29s. No CAP luckily! [X(]
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Kendari
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Looks like Erik is trying to lift out the stranded Transports. Hopefully I can catch him tomorrow!

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The main event is of course the capture of Balikpapan.
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Borneo
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I shouldn´t have shocked attacked of course. Learning by doing I guess! [:)]
Ground combat at Balikpapan (64,97)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 19914 troops, 326 guns, 819 vehicles, Assault Value = 769
Defending force 10302 troops, 79 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 150
Allied adjusted assault: 541
Japanese adjusted defense: 19
Allied assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 5)
Allied forces CAPTURE Balikpapan !!! [&o][&o][&o]
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 7 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
6967 casualties reported [X(]
Squads: 283 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 151 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 92 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 62 (58 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 34 (33 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (4 destroyed, 27 disabled)
My troops will have to rest for a couple of days before heading out for Samarinda. That will be another shock attack across the river. Ah well.
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Marianas
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Good bombardment at Guam! These often happen right after I deliberate attack.
Ground combat at Guam (106,95)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 1942 troops, 222 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 1413
Defending force 22229 troops, 415 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 208
Japanese ground losses:
221 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
I hope the base will fall during the next attack. But my troops needs rest. Lots of it. Two of the IDs are more or less shot with disruption and fatigue over 50. Once the armor recovers I might try an attack with only armor.
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Mindanao
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Second attack at Davao goes in. Results are good but my troops will need to rest. Very annoying with the movement bug sending 1 ID and all armor the wrong way. [:(]
Ground combat at Davao (79,91)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 33160 troops, 798 guns, 851 vehicles, Assault Value = 1224
Defending force 12302 troops, 116 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 190
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2 [&o]
Allied adjusted assault: 686
Japanese adjusted defense: 925
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1522 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 98 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (9 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
We also accidently closed Naga AF using B29s. No CAP luckily! [X(]
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Kendari
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Looks like Erik is trying to lift out the stranded Transports. Hopefully I can catch him tomorrow!

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RE: Balikpapan
[font="Verdana"]Victory Points[/font]
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Digging through tracker to try and find out the fate of the two CAs stuck at Jesselton I made a pleasant discovery. While it does look like the CAs got away (no VPs awarded) I apparently passed Erik in terms of VPs 10 days ago! [:)]
I know most allied player are probably ahead by twice the Japanese at this point but I can´t help but feel a little proud. Less than a year ago I was still battling it out at Port Moresby hopelessly left behind. Looking at what I have accomplished in 44 it has simply been a never ending string of allied successes. I found a screen from mid March that quite clearly show just how much has been achieved in only 8 months of time.
One things really stands out besides the almost 30.000 VPs gained in only 8 months:
From the 18th of March to the 8th of November the Japanese have lost 1847 aircraft per month. Thats quite a big number! [:)]
We don´t "play for VPs" but rather the enjoyment of the game itself. But its still nice to see I´m making progress.

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Digging through tracker to try and find out the fate of the two CAs stuck at Jesselton I made a pleasant discovery. While it does look like the CAs got away (no VPs awarded) I apparently passed Erik in terms of VPs 10 days ago! [:)]
I know most allied player are probably ahead by twice the Japanese at this point but I can´t help but feel a little proud. Less than a year ago I was still battling it out at Port Moresby hopelessly left behind. Looking at what I have accomplished in 44 it has simply been a never ending string of allied successes. I found a screen from mid March that quite clearly show just how much has been achieved in only 8 months of time.
One things really stands out besides the almost 30.000 VPs gained in only 8 months:
From the 18th of March to the 8th of November the Japanese have lost 1847 aircraft per month. Thats quite a big number! [:)]
We don´t "play for VPs" but rather the enjoyment of the game itself. But its still nice to see I´m making progress.

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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
[font="Verdana"]8th November -44[/font]
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My troops will have to rest for a couple of days before heading out for Samarinda. That will be another shock attack across the river. Ah well.
Do you have an HR prohibiting a landing at a non-base hex?
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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Do you have an HR prohibiting a landing at a non-base hex?
Yep! So no go there.

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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Do you have an HR prohibiting a landing at a non-base hex?
Yep! So no go there.
I hate HRs. Just sayin'.
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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I hate HRs. Just sayin'.
What? You do? Really? [;)]
Should have the replay back from Erik any minute now. Its hard not getting the hopes up. 1 Jap ID + 1 BDE +1 Tank RGT in terrain x2 against 2 OZ, 2 US, 1 Brit and 1 Indian division with Fatigue 20-30 and disruption 5-9.
Its a close call but I think the defensive terrain will tip the balance. I´ll probably get a adjusted AV from 2700 to 400 end Erik go from 700 to 3000. As usual... [8|]

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RE: Balikpapan
OMG! IT WORKED! [:D][:D][:D][&o][&o][&o][&o]
Ground combat at 55,60 (near Tavoy)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 68946 troops, 1175 guns, 920 vehicles, Assault Value = 3609
Defending force 27266 troops, 300 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 902
Allied adjusted assault: 1323
Japanese adjusted defense: 349
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 [&o][&o][&o]
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
6460 casualties reported [X(]
Squads: 145 destroyed, 198 disabled
Non Combat: 191 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 104 (48 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Vehicles lost 166 (72 destroyed, 94 disabled)
Units retreated 10
Allied ground losses:
2793 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 300 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 58 disabled
Guns lost 40 (3 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! [&o][&o][&o]
Assaulting units:
111th Chindit Brigade
6th New Chinese Corps
6th Australian Division
9th Indian Division
77th Chindit Brigade
7th Infantry Division
41st Infantry Division
2nd British Division
9th Australian Division
Southeast Asia
Defending units:
48th Division
8th Tank Regiment
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
71st Field AA Battalion
21st Air Defense AA Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Field Artillery Battalion

RE: Balikpapan
Well, that certainly changes the game. Good job.
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RE: Balikpapan
Well, looks like I might have jumped the gun a little bit too early. Apparently 1 unit didn´t retreat so Erik is still in full control of the hex. But he will lose it tomorrow. Tank division or not. I still have 3300 AV left that will attack tomorrow!
Can´t tell you how relieved I am. Never in a million years thought I would be able to break through. Now I need to figure out how to exploit this opportunity! [:)]
Can´t tell you how relieved I am. Never in a million years thought I would be able to break through. Now I need to figure out how to exploit this opportunity! [:)]

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RE: Balikpapan
IMO it's a TOE story now and to the end , not an AV story. One ID for you is not the same as one for him. In anti-armor alone you are so far ahead it's not funny. MGs too.
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RE: Balikpapan
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IMO it's a TOE story now and to the end , not an AV story. One ID for you is not the same as one for him. In anti-armor alone you are so far ahead it's not funny. MGs too.
Agreed, thats one of the reasons I don´t think Erik will try with his 2 Tank divisions alone. Besides that my armor is just 4 days away. But for all he know it could arrive tomorrow. And I don´t think he would want to face 400 Shermans even with 2 tank divisions.
Besides there is simply no way he will move 4000 Allied AV. So now he has 4000 AV in front of him and 10000 behind him. Talk about being stuck between a rock and hard place. [:D]
But you never know. He might think I got skewered and my troops are really beat up. They arn´t though. Most of the losses happened to the two BDEs. But one OZ division is a bit beat up.
Question is how I play this. I´ll put a map up tonight. First thing on the menu is to cut his supply paths. Then the 4Es will get to work.

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Good day in Thailand!
Here is a screen of the current situation. I have not yet really decided how I want to play this. The main idea here is to cut supply, try to surround the Japanese forces and then capture them in a nice little pocket.
Exactly how to do this. I´m not sure yet. I guess Erik will either try to break out which I think is near impossible or try to walk east through the jungle. If he does I need to get there before him.
I detatched around 3000 AV in the north to start moving for Raheng. Central Thailand is virtually empty. One one division and some small units there.
I would love to hear some ideas. Don´t want to mess this extraordinary opportunity up.

Exactly how to do this. I´m not sure yet. I guess Erik will either try to break out which I think is near impossible or try to walk east through the jungle. If he does I need to get there before him.
I detatched around 3000 AV in the north to start moving for Raheng. Central Thailand is virtually empty. One one division and some small units there.
I would love to hear some ideas. Don´t want to mess this extraordinary opportunity up.

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RE: Balikpapan
Wow this is a real game decider. I can't say much since I'm also reading obvert's AAR.
May the force be with you!
May the force be with you!

RE: Balikpapan
I would love to hear some ideas. Don´t want to mess this extraordinary opportunity up.
From my experience N=2 ... Ayutthaya [ayuthia] is the key to breaking into the Thai plains. Using just enough force to pin IJA units at Raheng, and then using enough to take Ayutthaya and Raheng will fall from lack of supply. My two opponents did not initially build up Ayutthaya, so I parachuted a chindit unit and followed up with armor. Once taken I para dropped into empty Udon and railed units from Ayutthaya .. Thailand soon collapsed ...
Things are at the tipping point in Burma ...[&o][&o]
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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RE: Balikpapan
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Wow this is a real game decider. I can't say much since I'm also reading obvert's AAR.
Me to. He has a plan. Flying saucers are involved.
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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: JonReb
Wow this is a real game decider. I can't say much since I'm also reading obvert's AAR.
Me to. He has a plan. Flying saucers are involved.
I thought it used Fire Balloons. [;)]
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ― Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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RE: Balikpapan
ORIGINAL: Cpt Sherwood
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: JonReb
Wow this is a real game decider. I can't say much since I'm also reading obvert's AAR.
Me to. He has a plan. Flying saucers are involved.
I thought it used Fire Balloons. [;)]
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! [:-][8|][:'(]
The Moose
RE: Balikpapan
What happened to the bats with incendiary bombs strapped to their backs or the cockroachs with 50 cals?
General Joc; great move in the CBI AO. You have proven yourself a very competent leader. Keep up the Good work. Allied civilians.
I would go with sending troops to Rahaeng and cutting the RR off above Bangkok. Box him in then pin him down.
General Joc; great move in the CBI AO. You have proven yourself a very competent leader. Keep up the Good work. Allied civilians.
I would go with sending troops to Rahaeng and cutting the RR off above Bangkok. Box him in then pin him down.



