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Gutted pilot exp levels

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I've always thought it both silly and harmful to the design that pilot experience is so high, with pilots having high 80-90 experience levels before seeing any combat. What was the point in having a range from 1-99 when the majority are near 99 anyway???[8|] Although there is nothing we can do about on map pilot training (pilots can attain retarded experience levels for bombing a dot!![:@]) there is something we can do about experience levels. Having advocated it for years I thought it time I added a huge drop in experience since nobody else was about to. (CHS dropped it a little but I don't think it was dropped enough to make an impact)

Check these out...[;)][:D] I suspect the A2A model is going to become much less bloody (especially once the prewar pilots are thinned out due to losses) and ops losses to become much more common.



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VF 3 aboard Saratoga was not fully operational at the start of the war and is not here either. One can see that the prewar pilots and the new arrivals are vastly different in experience. I suspect that Bill and I will spend much more time working up our rebuilt squadrons before sending them into combat...should slow the pace of the game down immensely.

I was also disappointed that if they were going to model individual pilots and leaders, why did they not make a provision for promotion? It existed in old games like BoB and BTR. Here the prewar pilots include Ensigns and the newbies are Lt jgs.[8|]

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I'd love to see a pic of one of Bills Zero datais that made the mistake of strafing Pearl Harbor. Lots of great pilots lost to flak.[;)] They will need some serious training if they are to be effective.

Anyway, by May/June 42 we might actually see a decent CV battle as I suspect many of the Japanese prewar pilots will have been lost by then. Be great if the buzzsaw uber CAP was alleviated bsomewhat by this.
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Poor 1LT Ching B.! He will probably slip while climbing into his cockpit, and break his neck. [;)]
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Poor 1LT Ching B.! He will probably slip while climbing into his cockpit, and break his neck. [;)]

That's the point exactly! The Chinese AF was really not much of a factor during the war, and early lendlease aircraft were used mainly to train pilots. The low experience levels should go along way in ensuring the CAF is a non factor. In the CHS 1.06 game I also have with Bill, it is April 1943 and the CAF is not only potent but is in many respects superior to what the Japanese have in China, with the P-43 Lancer and P-66 Vanguard controlling the skies. You know something is terribly wrong when this is the case and the number of CAF pilots with 5 or more kills is in the double digits![X(]
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Keep tabs on Ching, maybe he can survive this crazy war...
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Bill, where is my turn? I'm stuck doing AARs.[:D]


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RE: Bill vs Ron: Modified CHS 2.06

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

Very nice format, easy to read! [:)]
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Can you tell I'm waiting for Bill to finish stuffing his face or attending to family business?[:)] This AAR is about a week behind so I don't give the treacherous Japanese any useful info.[:D]
Have you thought about making it an Allied thread?

Nah, this is more about seeing how the experience levels and other changes impact the game. If you want to suggest strategy though, feel free.
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I'd love to see a pic of one of Bills Zero datais that made the mistake of strafing Pearl Harbor. Lots of great pilots lost to flak.[;)] They will need some serious training if they are to be effective.

Anyway, by May/June 42 we might actually see a decent CV battle as I suspect many of the Japanese prewar pilots will have been lost by then. Be great if the buzzsaw uber CAP was alleviated bsomewhat by this.


You will be surprised Ron. I will post them tonight when I get home from work.
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FYI, Pedro lost another base in Aussie Land to the IJA.  The base just northwest of Alice Springs.
 
The turn should be in your in box Ron.  I did it this morning bright and early.  So far the games is progressing better than our first encounter.  I will have a few surprises for you in this game I think.  There really has not been much A2A except in China with the AVG leading a hand to the Chinese.
 
I noticed the base supply change you made is working.  One base had 0 supplies last turn and I noticed this turn it had 5 on hand.
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Do you know where this ship is? [X(]

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On top of a gaming board by the looks of it.
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On top of a gaming board by the looks of it.


Okay I have a better one.

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No idea.
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FYI, Pedro lost another base in Aussie Land to the IJA.  The base just northwest of Alice Springs.

The turn should be in your in box Ron.  I did it this morning bright and early.  So far the games is progressing better than our first encounter.  I will have a few surprises for you in this game I think.  There really has not been much A2A except in China with the AVG lending a hand to the Chinese.

I noticed the base supply change you made is working.  One base had 0 supplies last turn and I noticed this turn it had 5 on hand.
There really has not been much A2A except in China with the AVG lending a hand to the Chinese.

The AVG is basically the only thing that stands in the way of complete Jap air superiority in China. The CAF is just too pathetic pilot and equipment wise now. Training is the order of the day for the CAF fighter pilots.
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Day Air attack on Hengchow , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-21-II Sally x 13

Allied aircraft
P-40B/C Tomahawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B/C Tomahawk: 4 damaged

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Here are a few of the groups stationed on the carriers. Akagi and Kaga

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Soryu and Hiryu As you can see the expereince of the replacement pilots is well below 50.

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How is this version working out?
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