Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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Unfortunately that is what I would suggest too... [:(] Totally wipe your harddisk clean, reinstall everything new... which is indeed a lot of work, like Pip says a *major* pain, lots of work. It's easy compared to the old DOS days but still can take hours to complete. Still it's better than not being able to play games at all.
That is why some folks go for game consoles... but then you wouldn't be able to play wargames at all.

That's a bit extreme. If it was me, after playing around with compatibility settings, I would remove all sound and video drivers, then use something like driversweeper to cleanup the old drivers for both nvidia and ati. I would get all the available updates for the motherboard and chipset. Update the mouse driver. Run windows update and make sure everything looks good. Update sound and video drivers with the latest.

If problem persisted after that, I would monitor system heat for CPU and GPU, then run a memory test too. If there was still a problem after that, I might consider a clean install of the OS.
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I have never had the need to try it but would a system restore be worth a go first? Would that be less painful? I agree it does sound like a system problem.

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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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This probably isn't your problem, but it's a good tale to share... and might even be applicable...

I built a new PC awhile back and it booted just fine, but when I started trying to run games and flight simulators it would freeze up after anywhere from 3 to 15 minutes. Tried everything... nothing worked....

THEN... I took a good look at the graphics card and discovered that a tiny wire to one of the fans had gotten caught in the graphics card fan. That's why it was crashing... depending on how intensive graphics were in the games... it would overheat and lock up at some point with MS Flight Simulator being the first to crash.

So, check the fan on your graphics card and make sure it is functioning OK. It could be a heat related problem that has nothing to do with your software.

Far out possibility, but who would think a wire would get caught in a fan and crash a system LOL

I suspect a complete reinstall of Windows is in your future though. Personally, I've always enjoyed doing a complete rebuild... gives you a chance to get rid of all the trash free programs and other junk that you really don't need.
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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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Yeah it sounds like he's trying to play an $80 horse on a $10 saddle of a machine.
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If the games worked then, but don't work now, it isn't the games.

System restore, if you can go back before the current problem, could work.

But a drive reformat and reinstall, which is a pain, (but I do it every year.) will work.

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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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This probably isn't your problem, but it's a good tale to share... and might even be applicable...

I built a new PC awhile back and it booted just fine, but when I started trying to run games and flight simulators it would freeze up after anywhere from 3 to 15 minutes. Tried everything... nothing worked....

THEN... I took a good look at the graphics card and discovered that a tiny wire to one of the fans had gotten caught in the graphics card fan. That's why it was crashing... depending on how intensive graphics were in the games... it would overheat and lock up at some point with MS Flight Simulator being the first to crash.

So, check the fan on your graphics card and make sure it is functioning OK. It could be a heat related problem that has nothing to do with your software.

Far out possibility, but who would think a wire would get caught in a fan and crash a system LOL

I suspect a complete reinstall of Windows is in your future though. Personally, I've always enjoyed doing a complete rebuild... gives you a chance to get rid of all the trash free programs and other junk that you really don't need.

I had the wire in the graphics fan issue too... simple fix for a problem that I didn't realize was so obvious.

In the old days with XP, I would format and rebuild every few years to clean things up. With Windows 7, I really haven't had to do that. Pretty fine running OS.

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It is system related for sure TT, you have been around long enough and have played WITP for years. That right there should tell you it is system related.

I am no computer guru so will not offer any advice other than to tell you it is 100% system related.
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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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Actually TOAW3 has crashed on me once or twice. Pop-up text box (I think proper term is tool tip) appears to block a button, I click on the text repeatedly thinking it will go away, game shuts off. No such problems with SPWAW and Panzer Corps demo, but Starshatter might have shut off inexplicibly (not sure there).
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Hey Twotribes, can you share the end of the story with us?
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well there are some diagnostics built into windows... he can dig deeper and see an event log and how the items are failing...
my computer was in such bad shape I could not get much going, I had to do a complete wipe and reinstall of everything, then about fifteen rounds of windows updats!
took me about four days to get it "updated", old but still fast quad core... dont hate windows, just not in love with MS...
so, its now a clean mean playing games machine, again... I had to do some manual updating as well as the auto stuff is stupid, a few drivers and such.. my guess from the posting is the author needed some required file, that is installed but corrupted, its the "wire in the fan" example...
for me aI had multiple issues with bad sectors and after months of frustrations decided to just trash the contents of my hard drives and start afresh..
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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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Every Matrix title I have has the same problem. As I click to do things in the game it randomly shuts the game down and I lose everything I have done for that turn.

As I click to do things the screen flickers or for a moment reverts to the opening box for the game and eventually randomly just shuts the game down to the opening box if it hasn't been already turned off, that is another problem it randomly puts the box over the game screen but I can just shut that down from the box.

I am tired of starting over all the time.

This sounds like a problem on/with your particular computer. There is no way that 26 games from one company (but from different developers) would cause the same problem, even if they would be extremely buggy.

Could you specify the word "opening box"? Do you mean the Matrix logo/animation video or the Matrix launcher/HQ where you start the program?

There might be a problem with general video playback routines/files (codec), the paging file, the main processor (overheating?), or with the system memory or the video card's drivers. It's hard to narrow things down without you providing more detailed infos.

Since it seems to "fling" back to the "opening box", it sounds like either a memory page error at a certain memory address , or a damaged main processor (CPU) would cause the issue, once complex calculations are being performed (means when you "click to do things").

Running games in windowed mode, depending on your windows installation's/computer's age, may cause that issue too.

Freeboy's hint is pretty good, btw. If you move your computer or if there's a power outage while the drive is writing to disk, especially if it's an older harddisk, there are high chances that files get damaged (magnetic structure will be corrupt), or that the harddisk gets a so-called "hard error", which is a real scratch on the drive's disk and pretty much the worst scenario. Both types of damages can result in loss of data or partially unreadable files. Depending on the size and on the location of a soft- or hard-error, such error may just affect a single dll, driver or database file, but it can also affect the stability/operation of the operating system (windows).

1. Get someone to do a harddrive surface scan, along with a file-table integrity scan (scandisk).
2. Do a memory address scan.
3. Get a CPU test program or a CPU benchmark program.
4. Defrag the harddrive.
5. Uninstall then reinstall one of the Matrix games, and see if it runs.

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RE: Gonna have to stop buying Matrix games

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I had this problem with HPS titles, especially Squad Battles with win 7 ……….go to your control panel and set your windows theme to basic or classic , all the bells ‘n whistles in 7 freaks out some of the older titles ( had it with JTCS also) .........worth a try.[;)]
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