CSV try II Ian is NLF larry is Allies csv_lgf_v1.0.sce

[devoncop]

Turn 7 and Turn 8

Little action other that Larry taking out a single VC unit in the Delta in each turn and some skirmishing up in Quang tri where another Regional Defence Force battalion of the ARVN is bombarded by long range artillery north of Da Nang.

In a nasty setback however a complete NVA supply unit travelling south towards the DMZ in North Vietnam is wiped out by interdiction.

VP's have pulled back to just +4 in the VC/NVA favour as VC activity is subdued given the large number of US forces operating in the country.

[devoncop]

Turn 9

More heavy air interdiction and also strikes on the Ho Chi Minh trail. It appears the NVA AA on the trail is totally ineffective which doesn't bore well.

In Quang Tri Province the NVA destroy the NVA garrison in Dong Ha and the NVA get their first objective as Quang Tri city falls.
The redeployment following this success gets hit hard by US interdiction however.

The VC and NVA co-operate in western South Vietnam to try to hurt isolated ARVN battalions but their strength is too high for the light NVA forces to attack at this time.

Larry has now reduced my VP score to +3.

[devoncop]

Turn 10

A better turn for the VC overall. EEV stands at 19 due to US troop arrivals and bombing at Hanoi and yet the VP total moves back to +6 for the VC as the success by the NVA in taking Quang Tri province plus small numbers of active VC elsewhere pushes the points total back up. Quang Tri itself is quiet this turn as the NVA Divisions recuperate after the interdiction strikes last turn.

This turn Larry's air strikes were less effective and a reasonable number of planes were lost without the disproportionately high losses we saw in our earlier game.

Having said the above the COIN operations he is running are extremely well organised with a slow press by Rangers,artillery and (particularly in the Delta) river patrols being effective VC spotters. I lost another two VC units this turn and had to disband two more due to them being about to be surrounded.

[larryfulkerson]

I've been clearing out the coastal roads to get the flow of supply going and I've cleared some of the mountain hexes and the NVA has been raiding and then retreating in the north. Much of the north is now enemy territory but one of these days I'm going to take it all back.

[devoncop]

Turn 11

I was helped this turn as Larry failed a proficiency test before he could get too far into his murderous counter insurgency sweep but another VC battalion was caught and destroyed in the Delta. Two attempts at bombing the High Command HQ unit of the VC in Cambodia caused no VC casualties but cost the Americans more planes.

Up in Quang Tri where the NVA had melted back acrss the DMZ ARVN troops retook Quang Tri city but also pulled out immediately afterwards, realising how vulnerable it is. Not to look a gift horse in the mouth and mindful of a VP point up for grabs North Vietnamese troops re-entered to city.

This turn saw over a dozen new VC and NVA reinforcements and even taking into account the instantly disbanded political units who are sitting ducks this leaves more VC units on the ground than at any previous turn so I expect Larry will manage to seek and destroy more next turn.

The Ho Chi Minh trail gets repaired down south of Quang Tri so good progress is being made to improve supply.

[devoncop]

Turn 12

For the first time the VP total jumps by 3 to +7 as a combination of VC activity in Vinh Binh, Ba Xuyen , Bien Hoa and Thua Thien provinces plus the EVV hitting 32 thanks to the rapid US build up adds points to the VC total. Anti war protestors March in Washington reflecting public concern at the warmongering President [:)]

The NVA consolidate their hold in Quang Tri though a counter attack is expected.

Significant reinforcements are now optionally available via the Ho Chi Minh trail but Uncle Ho decides to plan a co-ordinated offensive so troops are being husbanded in rear areas for a bit push....

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the setup before I have moved anybody. Several VC units have wondered into some terrain that I've cleared before and they are standing out like a sore thumb. It's up to me to kill them now. I've got a VC cadre on the HCM trail that I feel the need to give some attention to. And I have successfully bombed the AA guns on the trail and have gotten hits without loosing any planes and I'd like to see if I can do that again. There's an NVA division at Quang Tri that's been making a nusance of itself. But he's got the long range rocket unit that can hit my units while it's still out of range of my stuff and I can't shoot back. I don't want to spend the +12 EEV points to get the longer range arty tubes though.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the USS Midway at Dixie station and it's a full deck launch today and everybody's got someplace to go and something to do. I don't really expect the Mig-17's from Hanoi to reach out this far south but I'm not taking any chances. The F-8's at Yankee station are probably getting the most workout of all the three AS missions I have running. About 1/2 of the air fleet is on combat support and everybody else is on INT so that's about 36 CS and 40 INT and 3 AS missions running. I've got some squadrons that have but 2 or three aircraft and those I have on rest lest they loose both of them and kill the unit entirely. I'd rather not lose the entire unit if possible. That reminds me I need to check out the losses so far.

[larryfulkerson]

I've sorted the list on mission so that all the "rest" would huddle at the bottom and I've got about 10 squadrons that are missing too many planes to fly and you can see they are mostly Navy planes.

Also above those planes is a group of planes that I need to trim the range of yet. I find that I get better performance from the aircraft units when their range is trimmed to "fit" the map from the spot they are parked in. No need to patrol the off-map areas. The more they concentrate the better they are at recon, etc.

[larryfulkerson]

The aircraft losses are a LOT less this game compared to the first one. I've got but two F-4(early) aircraft on hand and there's a need for them in the VMFA squadrons in Da Nang. 5 squadrons are on rest because they have too few planes to fly. There's several F-100 squadrons that are missing planes too. But overall we're in good shape.

[devoncop]

Turn 13

A major counter attack is launched by the US on Quang Tri province using 1st Marine Division supported by large numbers of artillery and air support. Fortunately one Marine Regiment is destroyed during the attack but a battalion of the 308th NVA Division also is destroyed as it tries to retreat from combat. NVA artillery inflicts heavy casualties on the Marine Artillery knowcking out over 50% of its howitzers but after beating back the first assault on Quang Tri city the NVA are ordered to retreat back towards the DMZ...The upshot of the casualties is that the US now has a casualty penalty VP of 1 taking the VP toatal to +9 to the VC.

In operations further south several VC units manage to evade their pursuers and more bridges are blown though another two battalions are destroyed by air interdiction.

Hanoi is hit again by US bombers and another AA unit is destroyed.

All in all things are hotting up.........

[larryfulkerson]

Near Tay Ninh the VC division that invaded across the border has retreated back into Cambodia but it's still showing on the map so I can still bomb it.

[larryfulkerson]

Near the DMZ the NVA division has retreated toward the north and I suspect that they are still south of the DMZ and liable to attack but I've got to rest my boys from all the combat last turn. I'm wondering what to do about the NVA since I cannot invade NVN. I'm thinking about flying a throw-away unit north of the river to expose some of the NVA units so I can bomb them. But the planes are tired from the attacks from last turn and several squadrons can't fly this turn. I'm thinking of giving my boys a day off this turn.

[larryfulkerson]

I flew some recon assets to a position north of the river and found the area cleared of enemy so I was wrong...the NVA have obviously retreated north of the DMZ.

[Hyding]

Larry are your lower air losses because of tactics or did you adjust the air attrition settings?

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Hyding
Larry are your lower air losses because of tactics or did you adjust the air attrition settings?

Hey there Hyding dude. Thanks for posting your question. Yeah, I made a new version of CSV and saved it to file name: csv_lgf_v1.0.sce and then added my mod name to the scenario briefing about the change and adjusted the AA lethality setting from 50% to 20% and saved it. So I'm hoping that the flak losses will be less this game. Ian tells me that it is and as a matter of fact the inventory image I posted above shows the proof in that the losses are lower this game than the last. I can live with SOME losses but it was rediculous before.

I'll attach a copy of the scenario here below so you can check out my change.

[larryfulkerson]

In the southern part of this image there's a VC unit that appears and I need to track him down and kill him. Sometimes they travel in pairs so there may be another one somewhere nearby. I'll need some arty for backup and I think I may have an ARVN Ranger unit within range.

[larryfulkerson]

Event 49 brought us another brave warrior and he's in the middle of my units, most of whom are heliborne and can squash him easily. Event 50 is probably going to be him moving off into the wilderness, disappearing from my radar so I'll have to go look for him and he'll probably disband in any case.

[larryfulkerson]

I didn't catch the event number because the status line flashed the message and then went blank...D'oh. But this is a VC unit north of Saigon within range of my assets and Ian knows it so he'll probably disband this bad boy. I need to go check anyway to convert the hex to friendly again.

[devoncop]

Turn 14

First a clarification for any readers plus Larry !

The reason the 308th and 312th NVA Divisions couldn't be located in Quang Tri Province by Larry's recon sweeps is not that they had pulled back north of the DMZ (the interdiction in doing that would have been murderous) but that on seeing the advance of overwhlming Marine forces the order was given for them to ditch uniforms and equipment and melt back into the civilian population (ie I disbanded them). They are due back in a couple of turns and will add nicely to the surge in VC I am now getting from earlier disbandments and the arrival of units via the Ho Chi Minh trail.

US and ARVN engineers are kept busy as increasing numbers of VC are given specific orders to blow as many bridges as possible to try and stop the rapid movement of Rangers and other units that can be raced to wherever VC are spotted to surround them at present. Almost 10 bridges go down and many central areas are hit . I am hoping to keep the US Marines and artillery busy enough in Quang Tri that they keep their noses out of things further south...

There is light shelling across the DMZ this turn and VP's have now hit +10 and I want to try and keep it at this level at least as if I manage it then the EEV increases by +1 every 2 turns even without any more US troops being called up or US border violations etc...this can add up nicely.