In the Calcutta hex itself I have 767 AV - 17th and 23rd Indian Divs plus two inf brigades, a Brit AT unit and 4 arty units.
Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
And here is the situation in India, which seems like it will be the main battleground in the coming months. I've never had a serious fight for Calcutta before, I would be interested to hear about other's experiences. With the terrain in the hex it seems like taking it by force is nearly impossible. Seems like cutting off supply lines and laying siege is necessary, so I've set up key units to try to keep a rail line open.
In the Calcutta hex itself I have 767 AV - 17th and 23rd Indian Divs plus two inf brigades, a Brit AT unit and 4 arty units.
In the Calcutta hex itself I have 767 AV - 17th and 23rd Indian Divs plus two inf brigades, a Brit AT unit and 4 arty units.
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We move fast in this game.
2/21/42 -
CL Durban torpedoed off Ceylon by a sub. Moderate damage. Back to Bombay for repairs.
That DD didn't make it to Townsville, KB-1 came SW and nailed. Put 2 P-40 squadrons on CAP hoping to catch a strike.
He's arrived at Ankang but I think he's worn out and possibly low on supply. His first attack goes 1:4 despite 500 AV vs. 300 AV. We obviously want to hold here. Additional corps is inbound.
Mandalay falls.
2/22/42 -
KB-1 moves back towards New Guinea.
We fly our 8 P-40s back into Bataan from Cebu and bag ~11 bombers.
He sweeps Diamond Harbor where I have some Buffaloes on CAP, we lose half the squadron. Oops.
Sian and Shaoyang fall. Knew those were coming but that's not ideal this early in the war.
Our RN CV is hanging out of the NW coast of Australia, we detect what appears to be a SCTF moving towards the coast, perhaps thinking of intercepting resupply operations I have going to Darwin, Broome and Derby.
2/23/42 -
Pair of old WW1 DDs take out a PB and 2 xAK at Johnston I., I think probably just a resupply convoy
We get some revenge over Diamond Harbor, instead of Buffs flying at 10K feet he runs into the AVG and our frontline RAF Hurricanes up at 20K and we bag ~8 for just 2 of ours
CVE Mabels fly a couple ineffectual strikes on PM but he seems to be pulling back his naval units with the troops ashore.
Indomitable successfully intercepts and attacks the the IJN TF, turns out to be at least 4 CLs, but our attack pilots go O for 30. A Vildebeest flying from Broome does get a 500 ib hit in, but that's not likely to do much damage.
He'll most likely scram back towards Timor, rather than pursue we move west at low speed.
He tries a first bombardment attack at PM and take more casualties. My supply situation is bad but not desperate, approx. 1,700 but all LCUs fully supplied. Freighter from Townsville will try to make a run.
2/24/42 -
He tries a bombardment of Diamond Harbour with 2 CAs. I've moved in a couple Indian CD units to supplement the fort but they prove pretty useless. This is a bit of a concern as Calcutta might be most vulnerable to an amphib assault. I thought the fort would make that too costly for him to want to do but perhaps that was a bad assumption.
No other action of note in India.
Kendari falls.
2/25/42 -
He lands at Christmas I. in the IO. Indomitable is 19 hexes away so we order her to move NW to see if we can get a shot at the invasion convoy. A couple DDs are detected closer to the DEI acting as pickets so we should see anything coming (Hint: Massive foreshadowing). USN CVs just arrived off Exmouth and will trail. RN is basically bait here, but will try not to leave them abandoned.
Apparently 2/26 brings a massive carrier battle, but I await the replay eagerly...
2/21/42 -
CL Durban torpedoed off Ceylon by a sub. Moderate damage. Back to Bombay for repairs.
That DD didn't make it to Townsville, KB-1 came SW and nailed. Put 2 P-40 squadrons on CAP hoping to catch a strike.
He's arrived at Ankang but I think he's worn out and possibly low on supply. His first attack goes 1:4 despite 500 AV vs. 300 AV. We obviously want to hold here. Additional corps is inbound.
Mandalay falls.
2/22/42 -
KB-1 moves back towards New Guinea.
We fly our 8 P-40s back into Bataan from Cebu and bag ~11 bombers.
He sweeps Diamond Harbor where I have some Buffaloes on CAP, we lose half the squadron. Oops.
Sian and Shaoyang fall. Knew those were coming but that's not ideal this early in the war.
Our RN CV is hanging out of the NW coast of Australia, we detect what appears to be a SCTF moving towards the coast, perhaps thinking of intercepting resupply operations I have going to Darwin, Broome and Derby.
2/23/42 -
Pair of old WW1 DDs take out a PB and 2 xAK at Johnston I., I think probably just a resupply convoy
We get some revenge over Diamond Harbor, instead of Buffs flying at 10K feet he runs into the AVG and our frontline RAF Hurricanes up at 20K and we bag ~8 for just 2 of ours
CVE Mabels fly a couple ineffectual strikes on PM but he seems to be pulling back his naval units with the troops ashore.
Indomitable successfully intercepts and attacks the the IJN TF, turns out to be at least 4 CLs, but our attack pilots go O for 30. A Vildebeest flying from Broome does get a 500 ib hit in, but that's not likely to do much damage.
He'll most likely scram back towards Timor, rather than pursue we move west at low speed.
He tries a first bombardment attack at PM and take more casualties. My supply situation is bad but not desperate, approx. 1,700 but all LCUs fully supplied. Freighter from Townsville will try to make a run.
2/24/42 -
He tries a bombardment of Diamond Harbour with 2 CAs. I've moved in a couple Indian CD units to supplement the fort but they prove pretty useless. This is a bit of a concern as Calcutta might be most vulnerable to an amphib assault. I thought the fort would make that too costly for him to want to do but perhaps that was a bad assumption.
No other action of note in India.
Kendari falls.
2/25/42 -
He lands at Christmas I. in the IO. Indomitable is 19 hexes away so we order her to move NW to see if we can get a shot at the invasion convoy. A couple DDs are detected closer to the DEI acting as pickets so we should see anything coming (Hint: Massive foreshadowing). USN CVs just arrived off Exmouth and will trail. RN is basically bait here, but will try not to leave them abandoned.
Apparently 2/26 brings a massive carrier battle, but I await the replay eagerly...
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
CD units work best against invasions. The CAs may have stayed farther out. Plus, the CD guns are probably only 6 inch which many IJ CAs will shrug off.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Hello. I hadn't seen this AAR and missed the open. Apologies.
Wish you could have waited for the new re-tooled BTS but it is taking FOREVER to get done!
How do you like all the new Allied toys? What have you done with the stronger Force Z or the new American Battle cruisers? Have you used the off-map aircraft purchase system yet?
Best of luck!
Wish you could have waited for the new re-tooled BTS but it is taking FOREVER to get done!
How do you like all the new Allied toys? What have you done with the stronger Force Z or the new American Battle cruisers? Have you used the off-map aircraft purchase system yet?
Best of luck!
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Stronger Force Z and USN BCs I tried to force an engagement with 'KB-3' off Northern Oz, unfortunately we didn't intercept successfully and now both USN BCs, the PoW and Renown are are either at Capetown or transiting back to the UK with damage.
Yes, have used the aircraft purchase system extensively.
Yes, have used the aircraft purchase system extensively.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Do you plan to convert the CLV/CAV Hybrids? They have proven to be pretty useful ships for people in either capacity.
Since we are still working on this re-write, have you found any errors that need to be looked at and/or changed?
Since we are still working on this re-write, have you found any errors that need to be looked at and/or changed?
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
I am leaning towards converting them to CVLs. I really like the theoretical utility of the CLVs, but because of how WITP treats the behavior of Air Combat TFs I'm finding that actually getting them to do much useful is difficult. If there was a way to have them be part of SCTFs, which I believe are more likely to press a surface engagement as opposed to attempt withdrawal, that would really increase their usefulness. Although I can totally understand why you elected to make their air crews be ~50 exp/NavB/T skill, I think bumping that may also help. With so few planes the chance of scoring a hit is very low as currently configured. I think there's been 2-3 instances in the above AAR where I put a CLV/CAV in position to do some damage but the pilots went 0 for. If the IJN player doesn't have to respect the threat they end up not mattering all that much.
The one bug I've noticed is that the Papuan Inf Sections have an AV of zero. Haven't had any in action yet so I'm unclear if they still contribute to the anti-personnel rating of a force, but it is a bit confusing when you're trying to get a sense of the strength of your garrison. The art files for the Constellation and Ranger also do not work for me although that could be user error as I've made no effort to fix since art files don't really impact the game.
The one bug I've noticed is that the Papuan Inf Sections have an AV of zero. Haven't had any in action yet so I'm unclear if they still contribute to the anti-personnel rating of a force, but it is a bit confusing when you're trying to get a sense of the strength of your garrison. The art files for the Constellation and Ranger also do not work for me although that could be user error as I've made no effort to fix since art files don't really impact the game.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
2/26/42 -
Massive carrier battle today that will likely have a major impact on the course of the war.
Map of where this happened is attached for reference, but this basically happened in the middle of nowhere.
A Brit CV had attacked an IJN SCTF north of Broome 4 days ago. I guess VAC sent KB-3 down from...Singapore (?) to try bushwhack it. I had 2 RN DDs cruising to the East (you can see them on the screenshot), presuming any reaction would come from the direction of Soerbaja. RN was also deployed NE of the USN CVs with the intention they'd bear the brunt of any counter with their superior AA and USN could counter.
Instead we ended up with a good old fashioned CV to CV slugfest. Each side only launched one raid. Both of us were not anticipating a fight and had our fighters on pretty low CAP percentages. My CAP moderately degraded his strike force, his didn't even touch mine, based on the CR. Both sides only flew one strike, no afternoon strikes. Here's the CR:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 44,118
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 102
B5N2 Kate x 70
D3A1 Val x 34
Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 14
F4F-3 Wildcat x 41
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Mahan
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CA Astoria
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 22
F4F-3 Wildcat x 63
SBD-2 Dauntless x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 60
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CVL Tokachi, Bomb hits 1
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tosa, Bomb hits 1
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CS Chitose, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Kushiro
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 21
Sea Hurricane Ib x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
Albacore I: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
BB Tosa
CVL Shoho, heavy fires
CVL Kushiro
CV Soryu, heavy fires
CV Hiryu
CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 3 destroyed
Yorktown, Saratoga and Enterprise all have severe damage and cannot conduct flight ops. Their planes mostly ditched except for a few diverting to Lexington. Zuiho is reported sunk, I think there's a good chance Ryujo is too.
Yorktown has 61 fires with 82 Sys damage and 79 Flt, so I think her chance of surviving is about 2%.
Saratoga is 28/53/58 so there's a chance if she doesn't get hit again, but she's out for a long long time.
Enterprise is 32/53/18 so she'll probably make it if we can get away, but months of yard time ahead.
Lexington is 21/29/4 and the only one that can still conduct flight ops.
I'm hoping Soryu is not in shape to conduct flight ops and his air groups took some damage. There was also a raid by 15 Kates on the Indomitable group that was shot down by our CAP with no survivors, so he may not have a ton of strike power left. Or that's wishful thinking. Lexington will run due South with Indomitable linking up. BC Renown has been detached from the RN group and will try for a surface intercept, maybe buy us some time.
Massive carrier battle today that will likely have a major impact on the course of the war.
Map of where this happened is attached for reference, but this basically happened in the middle of nowhere.
A Brit CV had attacked an IJN SCTF north of Broome 4 days ago. I guess VAC sent KB-3 down from...Singapore (?) to try bushwhack it. I had 2 RN DDs cruising to the East (you can see them on the screenshot), presuming any reaction would come from the direction of Soerbaja. RN was also deployed NE of the USN CVs with the intention they'd bear the brunt of any counter with their superior AA and USN could counter.
Instead we ended up with a good old fashioned CV to CV slugfest. Each side only launched one raid. Both of us were not anticipating a fight and had our fighters on pretty low CAP percentages. My CAP moderately degraded his strike force, his didn't even touch mine, based on the CR. Both sides only flew one strike, no afternoon strikes. Here's the CR:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 44,118
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 102
B5N2 Kate x 70
D3A1 Val x 34
Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 14
F4F-3 Wildcat x 41
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Mahan
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CA Astoria
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 22
F4F-3 Wildcat x 63
SBD-2 Dauntless x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 60
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CVL Tokachi, Bomb hits 1
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tosa, Bomb hits 1
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CS Chitose, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Kushiro
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 21
Sea Hurricane Ib x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
Albacore I: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
BB Tosa
CVL Shoho, heavy fires
CVL Kushiro
CV Soryu, heavy fires
CV Hiryu
CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 45,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 3 destroyed
Yorktown, Saratoga and Enterprise all have severe damage and cannot conduct flight ops. Their planes mostly ditched except for a few diverting to Lexington. Zuiho is reported sunk, I think there's a good chance Ryujo is too.
Yorktown has 61 fires with 82 Sys damage and 79 Flt, so I think her chance of surviving is about 2%.
Saratoga is 28/53/58 so there's a chance if she doesn't get hit again, but she's out for a long long time.
Enterprise is 32/53/18 so she'll probably make it if we can get away, but months of yard time ahead.
Lexington is 21/29/4 and the only one that can still conduct flight ops.
I'm hoping Soryu is not in shape to conduct flight ops and his air groups took some damage. There was also a raid by 15 Kates on the Indomitable group that was shot down by our CAP with no survivors, so he may not have a ton of strike power left. Or that's wishful thinking. Lexington will run due South with Indomitable linking up. BC Renown has been detached from the RN group and will try for a surface intercept, maybe buy us some time.
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Ouch - hard results for you, but I suppose the next day will really tell. Could be that he's only got Hiryu and 1-2 CVLs with functional flight decks, with some cripples of his own to worry about. Will be interesting to see whether he turns tail as well, or goes for your cripples.
Lex's damage is amazingly low for 4 torps, and reported heavy damage!
In long term, trading 1CV for 2-3 IJN CVLs isn't so bad, if that's the final tally. In the short-term, of course, your carrier force is depleted for some months to come...
Watching with interest!
Lex's damage is amazingly low for 4 torps, and reported heavy damage!
In long term, trading 1CV for 2-3 IJN CVLs isn't so bad, if that's the final tally. In the short-term, of course, your carrier force is depleted for some months to come...
Watching with interest!
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Wow, interesting carrier battle. As Chuck says, it was probably not too bad an outcome long term. Let's hope your surface boys can take out some cripples.
Regarding those CDs at Diamond Harbor, I've noticed anything that goes past CD units gets shredded (say from Singapore to Johore). So, that's about as good a place to put those as any in India at the moment.
Cheers,
CB
Regarding those CDs at Diamond Harbor, I've noticed anything that goes past CD units gets shredded (say from Singapore to Johore). So, that's about as good a place to put those as any in India at the moment.
Cheers,
CB
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
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Lex's damage is amazingly low for 4 torps, and reported heavy damage!
Just realized I had Lexington and Saratoga backwards. Lex is the cripple and Saratoga was still capable of conducting operations.
Thank you both for weighing in.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
2/27/42 -
We had the same idea about a surface engagement it appears, unfortunately he had bigger guns: BBs Yamashiro and Fuso. We lose the BC Renown and DD Jervis. We do take a couple DDs with us as a consolation prize.
Further south a couple of CLs take out a cargo convoy heading to Darwin off Derby.
No morning attacks but he scrapes this force together in the afternoon:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 44,125
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
B5N2 Kate x 29
D3A1 Val x 22
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
F4F-3A Wildcat x 2
F4F-3 Wildcat x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Astoria
Despite just the one hit Saratoga is now at 68 FLT damage and can't conduct air ops.
Range was 7 hexes so our planes didn't fly.
He also grabbed Cocos I. while this was going on and dropped the 8th Inf Div at PM.
2/28/42 -
He seems to be sending a lot of surface ships to try to finish us off. Two CLs and three DDs sink a couple of Dutch DDs that were lagging behind because they were low on gas.
DD Stribling sinks a pair of TBs
He's only able to get 16 strike planes together for today's raid, hopefully this will be it:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 45,128
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
B5N2 Kate x 7
D3A1 Val x 9
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 2
Sea Hurricane Ib x 3
F4F-3A Wildcat x 2
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
CV Indomitable
CL Glasgow
Our Albacores and a few SBDs fly a counter, but with no escort don't do anything except get shot down.
Map below, the CAs were going for another surface intercept hoping his escorts were depleted after those BBs clashed with Renown yesterday.
We had the same idea about a surface engagement it appears, unfortunately he had bigger guns: BBs Yamashiro and Fuso. We lose the BC Renown and DD Jervis. We do take a couple DDs with us as a consolation prize.
Further south a couple of CLs take out a cargo convoy heading to Darwin off Derby.
No morning attacks but he scrapes this force together in the afternoon:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 44,125
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
B5N2 Kate x 29
D3A1 Val x 22
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
F4F-3A Wildcat x 2
F4F-3 Wildcat x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Astoria
Despite just the one hit Saratoga is now at 68 FLT damage and can't conduct air ops.
Range was 7 hexes so our planes didn't fly.
He also grabbed Cocos I. while this was going on and dropped the 8th Inf Div at PM.
2/28/42 -
He seems to be sending a lot of surface ships to try to finish us off. Two CLs and three DDs sink a couple of Dutch DDs that were lagging behind because they were low on gas.
DD Stribling sinks a pair of TBs
He's only able to get 16 strike planes together for today's raid, hopefully this will be it:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 45,128
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
B5N2 Kate x 7
D3A1 Val x 9
Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 2
Sea Hurricane Ib x 3
F4F-3A Wildcat x 2
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
CV Indomitable
CL Glasgow
Our Albacores and a few SBDs fly a counter, but with no escort don't do anything except get shot down.
Map below, the CAs were going for another surface intercept hoping his escorts were depleted after those BBs clashed with Renown yesterday.
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3/1/42 -
We get some better air search in place, enemy SCTFs all over the place, but no flights from the CVs. Map below.
Enterprise makes port at Exmouth. We'll hide out for a day or two. 2 CAs and a CL link up with Lex to bulk up her escort.
Two Brit DDs get taken out by BBs Mutsu and Tosa. Guess it's good our CAs didn't hit home yesterday.
Two CLs and their DDs take out some small freighters further south off Carnarvon
Moving a bunch of air power to Perth. Also sending the CLVs west, they were at Sydney. My big concern is that he has a pretty darn good idea of where I'm going. He can bring his other two big CV groups around and wax this entire area. That's the big concern right now. Lex and Sara can probably make it to Perth given enough time, but I think have too much damage to risk a run to Capetown.
He attacks at PM and it goes surprisingly poorly, 1:2 with no fort reduction.
We get some better air search in place, enemy SCTFs all over the place, but no flights from the CVs. Map below.
Enterprise makes port at Exmouth. We'll hide out for a day or two. 2 CAs and a CL link up with Lex to bulk up her escort.
Two Brit DDs get taken out by BBs Mutsu and Tosa. Guess it's good our CAs didn't hit home yesterday.
Two CLs and their DDs take out some small freighters further south off Carnarvon
Moving a bunch of air power to Perth. Also sending the CLVs west, they were at Sydney. My big concern is that he has a pretty darn good idea of where I'm going. He can bring his other two big CV groups around and wax this entire area. That's the big concern right now. Lex and Sara can probably make it to Perth given enough time, but I think have too much damage to risk a run to Capetown.
He attacks at PM and it goes surprisingly poorly, 1:2 with no fort reduction.
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RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
The tension! Good luck. His air groups appear to have been eviscerated. No doubt the charge of the Renown will go down in the annals of British military tradition as one of the great sacrifices...
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
3/2/42 -
Saratoga gets sunk by a damn sub. All the dodging of planes and surface ships and it's a stupid sub that does us in. Several surface combat clashes, mostly between the RN CA Exeter and friends and the BC Chichibu & Co. We lose a DD but sink two of theirs. No real damage to Exeter, but out of ammo.
Perhaps more concerning is that Lex had 4 of those 'difficulty controlling flooding' messages and her FLT is now at 68 so very much in the danger zone.
E still in port for one more day. I think he's running out of ships with ammo. We probably need to roll after that, IJN CVs moving up the NG coast and will round Sorong tonight, so they'll be here in ~3 days.
If worst comes to worst E has a pretty good chance of making it to Capetown with 47 FLT. Could also try to hide in a small port on the Aussie coast. Or under a CAP umbrella at Perth. I could probably get up to 125 fighters or so. Maybe more. Any opinions?
Saratoga gets sunk by a damn sub. All the dodging of planes and surface ships and it's a stupid sub that does us in. Several surface combat clashes, mostly between the RN CA Exeter and friends and the BC Chichibu & Co. We lose a DD but sink two of theirs. No real damage to Exeter, but out of ammo.
Perhaps more concerning is that Lex had 4 of those 'difficulty controlling flooding' messages and her FLT is now at 68 so very much in the danger zone.
E still in port for one more day. I think he's running out of ships with ammo. We probably need to roll after that, IJN CVs moving up the NG coast and will round Sorong tonight, so they'll be here in ~3 days.
If worst comes to worst E has a pretty good chance of making it to Capetown with 47 FLT. Could also try to hide in a small port on the Aussie coast. Or under a CAP umbrella at Perth. I could probably get up to 125 fighters or so. Maybe more. Any opinions?
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
Definitely go to Capetown. Even with Lex if it can get west before those IJN ships and subs close on her. His subs will be looking for Lex to head for nearest port.ORIGINAL: aaffins
3/2/42 -
Saratoga gets sunk a damn sub. All the dodging of planes and surface ships and it's a stupid sub that does us in. Several surface combat clashes, mostly between RN CA Exeter and friends and the BC Chichibu & Co. We lose a DD but sink two of theirs. No real damage to Exeter, but out of ammo.
Perhaps more concerning is that Lex had 4 of those 'difficulty controlling flooding' messages and her FLT is not at 68 so very much in the danger zone.
E still in port for one more day. I think he's running out of ships with ammo. We probably need to roll after that, IJN CVs moving up the NG coast and will round Sorong tonight, so they'll be here in ~3 days.
If worst comes to worst E has a pretty good chance of making it to Capetown with 47 FLT. Could also try to hide in a small port on the Aussie coast. Or under a CAP umbrella at Perth. I could probably get up to 125 fighters or so. Maybe more. Any opinions?
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
The early war American damage control is not what it is later in the war and have lost a medium damaged carrier going slowly to port a day out when it seemed not to be in danger. I don't know if it can stand a long trip and risk a sudden damage control failure.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
That is an unknown, but you know he is hunting your survivors and will check the ports. Don't count on the Japanese being out of ammo - they carry more than Allied ships (one of the benefits of exceeding treaty limitations by 15-30%.ORIGINAL: Bif1961
The early war American damage control is not what it is later in the war and have lost a medium damaged carrier going slowly to port a day out when it seemed not to be in danger. I don't know if it can stand a long trip and risk a sudden damage control failure.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
BB Fanboy has THAT right!
How did you get caught in this? Did air search fail?
How did you get caught in this? Did air search fail?
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: Catfished! A grudge match - Cheesteak (J) v. Aaffins (A) BTS
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
BB Fanboy has THAT right!
How did you get caught in this? Did air search fail?
Not really, it basically happened in open ocean and he came an unanticipated direction. Even so, it was the Hiryu/Soryu and 4 CVLs vs. our 4 big CVs and the Indomitable, so it wasn't exactly a mismatch. My point of view is that I didn't get much luck. But I also may be telling myself that for my sanity right now...