Conquest of the Agean?

Tactics · Post by **Tactics** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:20 pm

But the real question! Will we be able to download the new features and apply them to HTTR for a lesser cost? I dont recall if that was a promised feature or something that Arjuna said was "likely feature".

madmickey · Post by **madmickey** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:52 pm

My understanding is that you can pay a little extra so that HTTR scenario can be played on the new game. Is this still correct Arjuna?

EricGuitarJames · Post by **EricGuitarJames** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:59 am

See this is what happens when my 'phone line goes on the blink! There I am, sitting at home thinking there's gonna be a 'Crete' expansion pack and 'how am I going to do a Malta scenario?' and look what happens - trumped by Panther again[:D].

Brady · Post by **Brady** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:28 am

WOOOHOOO< I am realy happy to hear this, and very excited about getting it, I hoped this was going to happen, I thought that they may being doing this when the planed relese of the Creat add on did not materilise, Man this will be fun Italians and Germans, commenwealth troops and Greaks cool !!!!!

Ya I know this is not the corect time frame, but it is a cool pickof Italian paratroppers:

Arjuna · Post by **Arjuna** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:58 am

Hi all,

Just got back from watching my son's soccer team win 5:2 against the Royal Military College ( Duntroon ) team. And they say those Army boys are tough! [;)]

I thought I would share with you some of our reasoning for releasing COTA rather than the planned Crete expansion pack. Basically it's about marketing and staying alive commercially. For those of you who still frequent your local game store ( EBs etc ) then you will have noticed the shrinking amount of shelf space being offered to PC titles. The big retail stores naturally want to make the most they can from their outlay and so they prefer to put a volume selling console game on their shelf rather than a steady but low volume niche product like our wargames. Essentially we are being forced out of the retail market, at least in our biggest market, North America. So that's why we will only be selling COTA online. Now we know that this will limit total sales but we have no choice. That's why we need to charge more for our product - we still need to eat.

Further, when selling online publicity is everything. If people do not know about your product then they won't go to your site and buy it. So it's imperitive that we get reviews. In general, magazines don't bother providing much in the way of reviews for expansion packs, but they do for full game releases. So hence our decision to expand the scope to include Greece and Malta.

And our policy is to keep developing the engine with at least one BIG feature each release. We though long and hard about this and decided that the best one to do would be to add a Campaign feature, not only in terms of popularity but also in terms of adding a whole new dimension to the gaming experience.

As to retro-fitting this campaign feature to HTTR, our policy here is to produce an upgrade for HTTR, which will incorporate this. We haven't yet worked out when this will get done and how much, but it will most likely be around $15 to $30 ( but don't hold me to this as I have yet to take this matter up with Matrix ) and come out some months after COTA is released. Remember we do need to sleep as well. [;)]

KNac007 · Post by **KNac007** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:36 am

All well explained and I agree and support your decission.

I think, that we as playing community of this game, the best we can do is, spread the word about the game with the classical "mouth to mouth" method (or chatting in case of the net) and hope that many people will buy the game.

jrcar · Post by **jrcar** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:40 am

Eating AND sleeping, how novel! Then again in my days at Duntroon we didn't let wussy civvie teams beat us either... what is the world coming too!

Now get back to work, no sleeping or eating for you until you get all that work done

Cheers

Rob

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:32 pm

Remember we do need to sleep as well.

I can´t find this word "sleep" in my dictionary? What does it mean?

Grotius · Post by **Grotius** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:30 pm

I like the idea of getting the retailer middleman out of the picture. It means more of the proceeds go to the people who actually made the game. As long as I can backup my download so that a hard disk crash doesn't doom me, I have no problem with digital download. I'd pay extra for a digital download with a CD to follow via snail-mail.

I can live with the price, too, but I don't think I'd pay much more than that. I like HTTR, but there are other great games competing for attention. A higher price seems more justified for a humungous game like WiTP. I'm perfectly happy to pay $70 or more for that game.

Tzar007 · Post by **Tzar007** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:39 pm

60$ US is somewhat expensive, but your explanation makes a whole lot of sense Arjuna.

I would not pay 60$ US for a poorly designed game, but I expect the quality and fun factor to be very high with COTA so I don't mind too much the price tag if the game is top notch.

It's already in my budget [:D]

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:05 pm

Is Matrix out of the buisness of selling boxed copies online through their own e-store?

Skyfire7631 · Post by **Skyfire7631** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:35 pm

My opinion : 60 is a bit expensive, I think 50 would be better, but I'm perfectly willing to pay that amount because of the quality of the game and just for supporting Panther (and Matrix ?) [:)]

However, I'm a bit concerned about the digital download thingy : I don't have a mean to order online (mainly because I'm greatly relunctant to leave my bank account information anywhere on Internet : I've worked for companies keeping such informations, and so know the reasons why I'm relunctant [;)]), so what will be my choices in this case ? [&:] All the more that I'm in France ...

Regards.

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:41 pm

ORIGINAL: Skyfire76

My opinion : 60 is a bit expensive, I think 50 would be better, but I'm perfectly willing to pay that amount because of the quality of the game and just for supporting Panther (and Matrix ?) [:)]

However, I'm a bit concerned about the digital download thingy : I don't have a mean to order online (mainly because I'm greatly relunctant to leave my bank account information anywhere on Internet : I've worked for companies keeping such informations, and so know the reasons why I'm relunctant [;)]), so what will be my choices in this case ? [&:] All the more that I'm in France ...

Regards.

Dont hold me to this but...
Go the Matrix homepage and look up the e-store. Click on the EU flag and check out the ordering options.
I think you can use a wire transfer for the money.

Skyfire7631 · Post by **Skyfire7631** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:48 pm

Hmm, well I see credit cards or European Bank Transfer, Giro or Money Order. I have no idea what are the 2 later, and bank transfer costs "a lot" IIRC [:(].

Regards.

KNac007 · Post by **KNac007** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:20 pm

Giro is sending money by mail (at least in spanish).

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:30 pm

I have a seperate credit card just for online purchases. Its actualy a card tied to a bank account instead of a credit card. When I want to make a purchase I deposit enough money to cover the purchase and that is it. In case the number is ever stolen then at most I will lose just a few dollars.
In the United States credit card fraud is higher for offline purchases than online purchases. You just cant win. You have to accept that there is a small risk everytime that you use one.

Skyfire7631 · Post by **Skyfire7631** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:02 pm

Thanks for the answers. We'll see when the game is out, anyway (and I'd hate to miss this one [;)]).

Regards.

David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:38 pm

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Is Matrix out of the buisness of selling boxed copies online through their own e-store?

No Matrix is not 100% out of retail at all. We will only be offering a very limited games we feel have a more general user feel. We want to try to get new blood into wargaming and to a newbie games like UV, or HTTR maybe to hard for them. The game are easy to get into once to you read the tutorials but we all know how few of us does that. Our next retail release will be Gary Grigsby's World At War.

David

U2 · Post by U2 » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:43 pm

ORIGINAL: David Heath

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Is Matrix out of the buisness of selling boxed copies online through their own e-store?

No Matrix is not 100% out of retail at all. We will only be offering a very limited games we feel have a more general user feel. We want to try to get new blood into wargaming and to a newbie games like UV, or HTTR maybe to hard for them. The game are easy to get into once to you read the tutorials but we all know how few of us does that. Our next retail release will be Gary Grigsby's World At War.

David

Just please make sure to offer DVD cases with a nice printed cover for the non-retail games since I want them in my collection. I do not want to download and burn....I want a collection darn it![:D]

David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:44 pm

ORIGINAL: Skyfire76

Hmm, well I see credit cards or European Bank Transfer, Giro or Money Order. I have no idea what are the 2 later, and bank transfer costs "a lot" IIRC [:(].

Regards.

We want to make the game available to everyone. One of the main reasons for our store changes was to make our products easy for our customers overseas. Remember you can order our product from our international number if you are on a modem or can get a download. All of our digital downloads have a CD On Demand which allows you to order a CD of the game shipped to your home or office. In fact you can order the digital download and start playing now and order the CD On Demand as a backup that comes in the mail later.

P.S. This option is available to all of our customers not just our ones overseas.

David

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