Why no review?

[SpitfireIX]

ORIGINAL: UncleBuck

Hey Spit 9 what is the game your pic comes form?

UB

I don't know--I just found it somewhere on the 'net. It was the best one that was small enough to fit.

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: drwho

How come no site or mag has reviewd WiTP? Not even Wargamer.com. Because it's not boxed?

Be wary of mainstream reviewers. They mostly will not like this game very much uusally on the grounds of poor playability due to too high a level of detail and too high a learning curve. One word they like to use for these kinds of games.....Elephantine....

You know what they say about being careful about what you wish for...

[Skyros]

Wargaming has just us grognards left, we have come a long way since CGW featured Pac War with maps charts etc. I still have those pages, although the issue is long gone.[:D]

[Vorsteher]

Gentlemen.
at this weekend, the german Site: www.gamershall.de want make a review.
But in german language.


V.

[derwho]

In my opinion (trying to be unibaised!) WiTP deserves a review for all the same reasons "Art Movies" or books deserve reviews even though they might not sell that well. Game sites/mags aren't that smart in the long run if they only review Doom 6 and the likes.

Nice to hear GamersHall.de is doing a piece! But I can't understand why Wargamer won't write anything about WiTP. They seem to do stuff about nearly everything that's possible, even niché cardboard stuff..

[tsimmonds]

But in german language.

Das ist kein Problem!

[Nikademus]

the game's more exclusive market aside, a game of WitP's scale cannot be quickly reviewed...at least not without any degree of credability. Heh, The company reviewers are probably drawing straws on who gets to tackle this beast. [:D]

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

the game's more exclusive market aside, a game of WitP's scale cannot be quickly reviewed...at least not without any degree of credability. Heh, The company reviewers are probably drawing straws on who gets to tackle this beast. [:D]

Yea, good point! Maybe Jul-Sep 2005? It would take a reviewer that long (assuming he also has to review other games at the same time) to play enough, far enough through a campaign, to get a good feel! The same problem that will prevent many players from ever playing a complete campaign is probably what will keep reviewers from ever reviewing it!

[Rob322]

ORIGINAL: ZOOMIE1980

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

the game's more exclusive market aside, a game of WitP's scale cannot be quickly reviewed...at least not without any degree of credability. Heh, The company reviewers are probably drawing straws on who gets to tackle this beast. [:D]

Yea, good point! Maybe Jul-Sep 2005? It would take a reviewer that long (assuming he also has to review other games at the same time) to play enough, far enough through a campaign, to get a good feel! The same problem that will prevent many players from ever playing a complete campaign is probably what will keep reviewers from ever reviewing it!

All good points but part of me says, "so what?" I doubt this game will appeal to the general, casual gamer. I mean, many consider Civilization to be a serious strategy game. This game isn't going to generate much buzz beyond the niche of people who are seriously interested in wargames that attempt to depict real events. I like what you said earlier Zoomie about how they'd call the game "Elephantine." You're right, they would, and that's fine with me. Because if Matrix wanted to give it to a mass market they'd have to dumb it down significantly and that would just suck.

Cheers,
Rob [8D]

[pauk]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

I wrote a review for our local Croat magazine - on 5 full pages it's the biggest and most positive review I ever wrote in my 10 years of IT journalism [:D]

I'll post a link to PDF once the article gets published in the magazine (early October). No one (except for a couple of my Croat mates who buy the magazine anyway) won't understand a thing, but I bet seeing WITP praised of 5 magazine pages will be a nice sight to some [:D]

O.

well,you could translate it in english (while you waiting your turns)[:)]

[Halsey]

The only reason to watch that movie is to see James King and Kate Beckinsale. I guess they tried to get Liv Tyler to play Kate's role, but she was in New Zealand making "The Lord of the Rings". A very smart move on her part![:D]

[steveh11Matrix]

ORIGINAL: Halsey

The only reason to watch that movie is to see James King and Kate Beckinsale. I guess they tried to get Liv Tyler to play Kate's role, but she was in New Zealand making "The Lord of the Rings". A very smart move on her part![:D]

There is no good reason to watch that film. If you want to see Kate Beckinsale, see Underworld - Skin tight leather wearing vampire, no less.[;)]
I bought "Tora! Tora! Tora!" as an antidote to "Pearl Harbour" when my wife bought the latter....


Steve.

[Pier5]

Perhaps the reviewers are waiting for the game to actually be finished. I'm beginning to wonder about that myself.

Pier5

[khelvan]

Err, the most recent issue of CGW DOES have a review of WITP in it.

[byron13]

ORIGINAL: steveh11Matrix

If you want to see Kate Beckinsale, see Underworld - Skin tight leather wearing vampire, no less.[;)]

Nope, she's too goth in Underworld. She makes my heart go pitter-patter in Pearl, though. And cute as a button in Serendipity. What's funny is that, unlike so many other stars, she looks so much better when she's not made up for filming.
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[byron13]

ORIGINAL: khelvan

Err, the most recent issue of CGW DOES have a review of WITP in it.

I haven't received my copy yet - or maybe my subscription expired. What did they say?

[von Murrin]

ORIGINAL: byron13

ORIGINAL: steveh11Matrix

If you want to see Kate Beckinsale, see Underworld - Skin tight leather wearing vampire, no less.[;)]

Nope, she's too goth in Underworld. She makes my heart go pitter-patter in Pearl, though. And cute as a button in Serendipity. What's funny is that, unlike so many other stars, she looks so much better when she's not made up for filming.
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What's wrong with goth? Oh, right. I'm probably one of the few people on this board who grew up with goths who weren't doing it for the fashion factor. Everyone else is probably over or under.[:'(]

[khelvan]

They gave it 3 1/2 stars out of 5. The quote under the headline is "Don't make any plans for the rest of the year." The conclusion is this: "This title is essentially an MMO game for dedicated, hardcore war gamers, not in the massively multiplayer sense, but simply because it lends itself to complete immersion on a time-sink scale similar to EverQuest's. To dismiss it as an impenetrable chore is to miss the point. The $70 price tag is a clear warning sign: Casual gamers need not apply. For war gamers, the game requires total commitment. If you invest enough, you'll be amply rewarded."

[RevRick]

I have two questions.
What is MMO?
Do they review more than one turn based game per issue?

I don't think I saw much more than shooters, fantasy, and role playing games in the ads or in the reviews.

[Panzer76]

ORIGINAL: Rob322
You're right, they would, and that's fine with me. Because if Matrix wanted to give it to a mass market they'd have to dumb it down significantly and that would just suck.
Cheers,
Rob [8D]

Sorry, but Im just tired of reading such self praising baloney.
No, they dont have to *dumb* it down, they have to develop a good UI. That would make the game more accessible, cut down on the micro managening and for those who wanted to see all the gritty details, *it would still be there*, just a click away.

I started playing WitP and thought it was good fun, it had its weaknesses, but still, nothing quite like this available.
Then after some time, I just got fed up fighting the war AND the UI, and I no longeer play it. It became more a chore, wading through endless needless clicks, and fighting a losing battle vs a UI out of the early 90s.

The idea that a serious strategy game *must* have a steep learning curve, endless micro managing and outdate UI, is just silly.

Oh well, Ive said this before, I hope they scrap every bit of code and redo the game from the bottom up in their next sequel. And hire some fresh blood...