Bug report consolidation thread

James P · Post by **James P** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 12:35 pm

Originally posted by Resisti:
This is a copy/paste from a previous post of mines:

3)"SAVE GAME FAILED TO LOAD" OR THE "REC FILE NON UPDATED" BUG
This is the most devastating one,cause it gives you no other choice than to clear the slot and start again(what abt if this happens at the last turn? I dont want imagine that!)

[ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: Resisti ]

To add mine, as above the killer for secure PBEM games is the "saved game fail to load" / Rec file not updating bug. full topic at:
http://www.matrixgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=000158

And the newish one of unsecured PBEM crashing when trying to save, full topic at:
http://www.matrixgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=000181

Whole suggestion from Paul V about re-working PBEM games around a central server, rather than zip, send, unzip,sound fantastic IMHO

Finally the "odd" one of the game crashing back to the windows desktop when hitting "start turn" after entering the pasword in a PBEM game. The batlefield noise starts to play, but before the map appears the game dies. The "fix" for this is to access a saved solitaire save game vs the PC, then quit straight away, then go back into the PBEM game - sounds stupid but it works!!!

Resisti · Post by **Resisti** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 12:44 pm

Originally posted by Kharan:

Unit availability is rerandomized every time you enter reinforcement purchase screen and is not carried over from the initial purchase phase.

Yep,I noticed it,too.
Dunno if it is intentional,but shouldnt be that way, I think.

Alexandra · Post by **Alexandra** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 4:47 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DELTA3-2:
[QB]Here's a neat bug....kind of like this one. When playing solitaire (not sure about PBEM) tank kills post just fine for the firing unit. However....if you finish off any surviving crews by other means....it awards the crew-killing unit with an armor kill ! I actually love this bug....my armor kills the vehicle...and my supporting MG gunners finish off the crews, getting themselves a Tank Kill Badge too ! Everyone wins. Iron Crosses for all !!!

That's not a bug. The kills marks are not armor kills. They are unit kills. Whenever one of your units destroys any other unit it gets a little kill badge. Probably the game uses tanks for it cause they look cool

And it's easier than coming up with one for each type of unit.

I only wish sniper kills could be tracked by individual men

Alex

miharme · Post by **miharme** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 9:08 pm

An annoying little thing -

When playing Italy vs. Greece in late 1940/early 1941, the battle location is desert. In ver. 4.5 it was correctly mountains.

Colonel von Blitz · Post by **Colonel von Blitz** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 10:47 pm

I dunno if this is a bug or intentional feature and this has been discussed some time ago. Routed or retreating enemy units regain pinned status and return fire after my units have fired at them. Also if there are several retreating or routed units in a single hex and you fire at one of them with small arms, units in that hex regain pinned status, sometimes even returning fire.

Colonel von Blitz

heintz28 · Post by **heintz28** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 10:59 pm

Stacking limits on bridges dont seem to be enforced. I had 5 PzIVe's on one wooden bridge hex. Manual says there should be a limit.

Sgt. Rick · Post by **Sgt. Rick** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 11:09 pm

Fighter-Bombers with WAY too bombs! When using FB's like the P-47D, it unloads 4 bombs each over 4 hexes! For a total of 16 bombs! That seems a bit much. I have seen this over a couple of versions. Is this a bug, or does the single fighter icon, represent a number of aircraft?

Also, after the bomb run, when the aircraft becomes available on the artillery screen again, they have full bomb loads again! While it's nice if it is on your side, it becomes hell for the other side.

Anyone else agree?

Rick

Jester · Post by **Jester** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 11:14 pm

i've founded that in king of the hill scenario during a tank assault, my tank didn't target to the visible enemy, but draw a line, if i don't remember bad, to 99 hex, that is towards a completely different direction. i've got a save file, because it seemed strange to me. if i can resume the mistake during this week-end i can send it. let me know.

jester

FrankyVas · Post by **FrankyVas** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 3:31 am

A lot of the Italian OOB's pictures are screwy. Most of their aircraft pictures show tanks or infantry. Some of the planes show up in the 75mm guns.
Also, in the Norwegian OOB, the destroyer's picture shows some weird tank with a big gun

Frank V.

ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 4:33 am

Originally posted by FrankyVas:
A lot of the Italian OOB's pictures are screwy. Most of their aircraft pictures show tanks or infantry

I can confirm this on my copy of SPWAW 5.1
and also there is not any ammo carrier unit except if you buy an entire "Arm'd Rec Bn"
(20 armored tanks , and only one ammo carrier)
Also pack mules were mainly used by italians to carry ammo (i.e for 47mmAT-guns..)rather than transporting units..

- I suffered a "override security warning ? (Y/N)" on a secure PBEM game each turn I was starting ...at least this prevented my opponent to see results I mailed to him after the battle ended...the SAVE SCORE button was red and I couldn't save the score..consequently he could not open the files I sent to him...but he says he has not this problem with other players..
I can mail my files if you need them...

In a campaign (Utah to Rhine) I noticed I had some units (infantry but also AFV) with low damage..(1 or 2)right-clicking on it : but they reported 0 damage in the build menu..the next battle they kept that damage unchanged...so I tried to reload the files and during the rebuild menu I pressed the fix button on them even if they were showing 0 damage..but nothing to do..the only way to nullify their damage was changing the unit with a new one of the same type...
(I also had some dead Leader names replaced with other already existent..but this is not a problem cause I can change them manually )
I would add..is it impossible to add the correspondant formation's letter to the units listed in the build menu ? and also a save button there ? it would be very comfortable...I will offer an exiciting cooperative campaign to each Matrix enforcer who would like to proove himself that changes are very comfortable..

(I really don't know why am I reporting also about this but...)
When entering Solitaire Play..then CAmpaign..then exit..then PBEM games..then
CAmpaign button is green...I can select it
and make a campaign starting..(I was DREAMING a PBEM campaign was possible..)
but it's not a properly a bug as it makes you playing that campaign in a solitary mode..

The amount of Mines purchased is not shown in the purchase menu..and mines' purchasing can not be deleted ..

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Yes but also let me say now Italians have some new pictures and units that are GREAATT !
Like Arditi and Folgore , Alpini...RSI Militia , Sezione Gamma , Askari ,PArtisans..CIL troops..an outstanding new quality for Italians troops !
COMPLIMENTS !!!!!REALLY COMPLIMENTS !!
sorry I could not be silent on this...
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[ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: ruxius ]

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:24 am

SGT RIck - turn Limited Ammo on...

Igor · Post by **Igor** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:34 am

Assuming that MGs killing tanks isn't a badly documented feature (if so, ignore the following)...

I set up a test range of MG 34s against Polish light tanks; 12 TK 3s, 3 WZ 34s, 2 Vickers dw's, 3 Vickers jw's, and 12 7 TPs.
The range was 150 yards (3 hexes), the troops were all regulars, all shots were frontal, the MGs fired for one full turn (basically, 5 shots or until the tank died); and I ran the test twice.

The results were as follows; no 7 TPs were damaged, 2 TK 3s were destroyed outright and 3 more were abandoned when one of the crew was killed, 1 WZ 34 was destroyed (three crew bailed), 1 Vickers dw was destroyed, and no Vickers jw was damaged.

It should be noted that no 7 TP, with a frontal armor above the soft kill rating of the MG 34 (16) was damaged out of roughly 120 shots; while the other vehicles with lower frontal armor suffered 7 destroyed or put out of action from roughly 200 shots. All kills were the result of MG fire (the rifles never inflicted any damage), and all occurred on a "vulnerable location" hit. I don't know the percentage chance of such a hit at 3 hexes; someone who does could figure out a rough ratio of kills to vulnerable location hits from the above.

I never saw any messages regarding any equipment damage, btw. Either the tank died, crew died inside a buttoned up vehicle, or nothing happened at all.

monsternav · Post by **monsternav** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 7:41 am

Reduced ammo only seems to work once. If a core unit is not destroyed and rebuilt or changed (i.e.PzIII to PzIV)it will always have a full load of ammo. Support and Aux units seem to have their ammo reduced correctly as it is always their first battle with you.

sg · Post by sg » Tue Jun 05, 2001 8:13 am

Playing the Normandy Gold campaign, in the second or third battle an offboard naval artillery battery was useless as it was armed with 4 machine guns. Don't know if this is a problem with the British oob or just a glitch in the setup of the campaign battle...just thought I'd report it.

Steve

Echelon · Post by **Echelon** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 12:25 pm

Needs to be a way to force the screen resolution!!! Mine doesn't switch to 800x600 but stays at a much lower level. Most games have more than one mode that can be set by a button or a command-line-switch.

TheZel66 · Post by **TheZel66** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 4:29 pm

Paul,

I noticed that when I'm designing a scenerio, and in the process of buying units, the total unit cost at the top of my selected units get reset to 0 everytime i go in and out of the buy units screen. If I want to change the units, or add/remove units from my intial selection, I have no idea how many total points there are, and no good way to keep sides balanced.

Halgary · Post by **Halgary** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:07 pm

Scroll delay seems to be ignored during deploy. This makes deploying impossible without zoom-out -function on faster machines.

Tank corpses sometimes disappear during online game. Not serious, but makes the game feel less reliable.

risto.nikula · Post by **risto.nikula** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:58 pm

A lot of the Italian OOB's pictures are screwy

I can also confirm this with spwaw 5.01

Rhodan · Post by **Rhodan** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:26 pm

The screeching sound is definitely a problem, although it is not an exclusive 5.X problem. It occured at times in the 4.x series as well and I even had it in SP3. It happens at totally random moments but seems to be related to the music, not the sound effects.

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:38 pm

IGOR - that is a result of the vulnerable location hit as you say that was added after teh manual was done. It address the problem many have pointed out regarding vulnerability of light armor to concentrated MG fire on vission blocks, hatches, unbuttoned crew members etc. At least for light armor...

Vulnerable location hits occur about 8% of the time at 3 hexes or less and 2% of the time beyond that for AP. 12%/3% for HEAT and 4%/16% for HE. The HE kill of MGs count as HE, this was originally not intended, but a seridipitous (IMO) outcome fo the new routine.

Sorry - its hard to keep track of the intereactions of everything that gets added!

But hopefully is is seen as a "FIX" not a BUG...

[ June 05, 2001: Message edited by: Paul Vebber ]