Patch 1.795 took out Japanese Historical Pilots and there experience...

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Don Bowen
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Patch 1.794 took out Allied Historical Pilots too

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The problem affected allied pilots too. I put in the exact pilots for Marine pilots of the VMF-211 detachment on Wake. With the latest patch (whatever number, lost track) the available pilots are spread out across all air groups that the executable thinks are available (arrival date < 411207??). Unfortunately the carrier air groups have no arrival date and several of my Wake pilots ended up in Marine Air Groups assigned to escort carriers arriving in 1945.

This is particularly unfortunate as I only have about 5100 pilots defined and the game is generating the remainder. I end up with several actual Wake pilots moved and generated pilots in their place.

This is a CHS example but the same is happening to Navy and British CAG groups as well so it will appear in all scenarios.
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RE: Patch 1.794 took out Allied Historical Pilots too

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For a little while I thought that I had a workaround for this problem.

I rolled back the patch to 1.77 which still had the historical pilots starting in their proper squadrons (both Japanese and Allied), and started Scenario 15 - saving the first turn before without making any changes. Then I went back and applied the 1.795 patch and restarted using my save - all the historical pilots were still in their proper squadrons[:)]

Now I went and ended the planning turn in order to allow combat. Everything went according to plan, the Japanese attacked and when the combat was resolved I checked the squadrons - no problem the historical pilots were still with their units[:D]

Did some further checking with other leaders - Admiral Yamamoto was replaced with some crummy staff officer[:(] Went back to my Dec 7th save and sure enough Yamamoto was in charge of the Combined Fleet.

Something changed during the combat phase to replace leaders in the units. BTW the reason I checked for Yamamoto was that I had a Campaign in progress which I had upgraded to 1.795 and during my play of that game Yamamoto and a few other Japanese officers went AWOL - my historical Japanese pilots were still in their respective squadrons during that game after the patch. You can conduct the same test yourselves in order to doublecheck my results - it might help you troubleshoot this problem.
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RE: Patch 1.794 took out Allied Historical Pilots too

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Mike any chance for a fix in 1.8??? Please Please... [:)]
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RE: Patch 1.795 took out Allied Historical Pilots too

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When a game started under pre-1.795 is played with v1.795, during the turn resolution the leaders numbered between 3990 and 8260 (approx) have all their details (name/rank/skills/etc) cleared out, but not what unit they are in charge off. [Not the same problem as the other leader bug that was replacing leaders. That was fixed in 1.7]

Now most of these "cleared" leaders are Japanese in the official scenarios, which is what you could see with Yamamoto.

It does not seem to happen on a game started afresh with 1.795.

It could be releated to the pilot issue as they both seemed to have gone bung in this particular beta.[In the previous beta I tested, I think it was okay except for drawing the pilots out of their historical squadrons.]

I have documented the problem and posted in DevForum.

Hopefully, when MikeW gets a break from war in the east and wants to rest in the pacific, he will look at it.[:D]

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Did some further checking with other leaders - Admiral Yamamoto was replaced with some crummy staff officer[:(] Went back to my Dec 7th save and sure enough Yamamoto was in charge of the Combined Fleet.

Something changed during the combat phase to replace leaders in the units. BTW the reason I checked for Yamamoto was that I had a Campaign in progress which I had upgraded to 1.795 and during my play of that game Yamamoto and a few other Japanese officers went AWOL - my historical Japanese pilots were still in their respective squadrons during that game after the patch. You can conduct the same test yourselves in order to doublecheck my results - it might help you troubleshoot this problem.
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