1792 AAR (some large pics)

[Titi]

ORIGINAL: Pippin

Looking at the economic manipulation, I would say your group is VERY conservative.

We discussed this remark on the last game and are not really sure of the meaning it had.
Can you explain what you mean please?

[Titi]

ORIGINAL: Grand_Armee

I love it when somebody else laminates their entire EIA map. My game trebled in weight due to the lovely plastic.

Having already saw a map look and smell like beer, i completly agree with the laminate map even if it's not mine and myself i cover it with four of five sheets of PVC.

You know when players became olders, theiry move are less clean [:D]

[Hoche]

The war with Austria and Turkey will do nothing but strengthen France. I hope Spain and GB enjoy a more powerfull France.


The Austrian should place 6 corps under the command of Mack in the mnts n of Leopoldstadt and leave 1m "blocking" corps in Krakow and Olmutz. Mack would have the advantage of the mnt bonus for defense if attacked and since it is in Hungary he could also pop up the the Insurection corps. (That's an extra 30m & 6c). With the blocking corps Suvarov can't make and end run for Vienna. Suvarov has only two choices, he can either attack Mack in the mnts or move off to the west of Mack and strike at Vienna. The move on Vienna would force Mack to leave his mountain position. However, if Suvarov does choose to move past Mack then his supply line is danergously exposed. This would force him to either abandon the move on Vienna or leave several corps back to defend the supply line.

[Titi]

Hi Hoche,

Sure the war against Austria and Turkey will strengthen France. But remember that France is last in VP, has used her two levée en masse and is reduced to home nation + Flanders with Baden as a free state. In two years, France as rebuild her corps and has more than one leader but is not yet an invincible opponent. On the other side, Austria is leading the game in VP and PP; has all her corps on map since a long time and is just filling home nation with full strength garrisons; and control all of Italy except Naples/Sicily with the Kingdom of Italy created and control half of the German nations. Last Austria is allied with Prussia and Turkey making life of Russia difficult. Only good point is Charles not yet available.
GB as Russia ally is probably enjoying taking PP over Turkey, while Spain is a Russian UMP this year ... after a year of control by Austria.

Lastly, your comment about Austria were straight to the point, and a good hindsight as the next months were already played. Unfortunately AAustria followed those little late.

Back to the AAR :

Austria began it's January 1795 turn by counterattacking with Mack and four corps the four Russian corps lead by Fersen besieging the East Galicia Capital. The battle took part in the forest area, while the starving garrison received order not to exit the city. Fersen knowing he had a tactical disadvantage and that his army has more militia than Austrian one, took some risk and place the four corps he had in a cordon stance.
Luck reward him for a time cause Mack ordered on the other side an Echelon attack. Whatever, the -1 on Russian die (tactical mod) and the +1 on Austrian die for cavalry superiority see both side finish unbroken the first day of combat, with nearly equal loses in men.
It was then that luck left poor Fersen, as he was the last casualty of his side when ordering the retreat toward West Galicia capital during the night. Doctors are predicting a two months convalescence.
February started by GB disembarking a corp in each of Cyrenaica and Tripolitain and later breaking trough the little garrison to conquer the two capitals.
Russia regroup and counterattacked the exposed force of Mack that just rebuild there loses by incorporating most of the city garrison. She move eight corps and Suvarov in the wood area while the three last corps in the area (one infantry (but what infantry...), one cavalry and a last just created from militia of Brest-Litovsk) move to the west of west Galicia keeping the newly depot just left by the last able Russian leader.
This time it was Mack that took some risk counterattacking against the Russian probe. But now Austria with the tactical inferiority and no more cavalry superiority saw here casualties growth against a opponent slightly helped by luck (Austria rolled 5, 3 and 1 with table becoming more and more lethal while Russia rolled 1, 5 and 5 with the same increase on the table). At the end of the day, both side left the battlefield broken, Suvarov going back from where he came still wondering how he forgot to take the guard corps with him in this battle and leaving 1000 cossacks and 5000 militia dead on the battlefield while Mack disband a corps at the end of the day losing more than 10 000 trained soldiers and had count on the sacrifice of 2000 guard grenadiers to save the day.
To finish, the heroic 6 000 men of the 1st Russian corps breached the Austrian wall and killed the 2 000 defenders of C...Witz.
So the bloodbath had continued, at the joy of Russia knowing than in the current strategical state, it was intolerable for Austria. Austria licking her wound retreated in the Hungarian mountains, leaving alone the 16 factors without a leader build around the Russian guard in the forest of West Galicia.
Turkish corps in the meantime walked back from where they came, while cossacks left Turkey.

March saw like the last month, intense diplomacy, but with few result to French request on Prussia or Turkish hopes to surrender conditionally to GB.
Russian troops took control of capital of East Galicia when after breaching the walls, the 2 000 defenders surrendered. Suvarov move to the step of Hungary while the returning Fersen missed the siege of the last East Galicia city.
Austrian Move still to be complete.

Pic of the middle march turn.

[Titi]

Pic of Med.

[vincentf]

ORIGINAL: Hoche

The Austrian should place 6 corps under the command of Mack in the mnts n of Leopoldstadt and leave 1m "blocking" corps in Krakow and Olmutz. Mack would have the advantage of the mnt bonus for defense if attacked and since it is in Hungary he could also pop up the the Insurection corps. (That's an extra 30m & 6c). With the blocking corps Suvarov can't make and end run for Vienna. Suvarov has only two choices, he can either attack Mack in the mnts or move off to the west of Mack and strike at Vienna. The move on Vienna would force Mack to leave his mountain position. However, if Suvarov does choose to move past Mack then his supply line is danergously exposed. This would force him to either abandon the move on Vienna or leave several corps back to defend the supply line.

Thank you. I am the Austrian Kaiser and my Mack did something like this, but I do note some details I haven't thougth about.

Hi Hoche. When I was in France, in Versailles, my appartements was at a few steps from the house where Lazare Hoche was born. It is now a good restaurant, named Chez Lazare! [;)]

[vincentf]

Bravo pour le compte-rendu! Pense à ne pas mettre des images trop larges, car ça oblige à jouer avec l'ascenseur horizontal à chaque début et fin de ligne, ce qui est pénible.

À bientôt à Paris!

(I'm just asking Thierry to shorten the width of the images and give him a rendez-vous in Paris to eat together te still warm hearth of the French consuls)

[Hoche]

ORIGINAL: vincentf

ORIGINAL: Hoche

The Austrian should place 6 corps under the command of Mack in the mnts n of Leopoldstadt and leave 1m "blocking" corps in Krakow and Olmutz. Mack would have the advantage of the mnt bonus for defense if attacked and since it is in Hungary he could also pop up the the Insurection corps. (That's an extra 30m & 6c). With the blocking corps Suvarov can't make and end run for Vienna. Suvarov has only two choices, he can either attack Mack in the mnts or move off to the west of Mack and strike at Vienna. The move on Vienna would force Mack to leave his mountain position. However, if Suvarov does choose to move past Mack then his supply line is danergously exposed. This would force him to either abandon the move on Vienna or leave several corps back to defend the supply line.

Thank you. I am the Austrian Kaiser and my Mack did something like this, but I do note some details I haven't thougth about.

Hi Hoche. When I was in France, in Versailles, my appartements was at a few steps from the house where Lazare Hoche was born. It is now a good restaurant, named Chez Lazare! [;)]

Thanks for the info. I chose Hoche as my name for this forum because when I signed up for this forum I was playing 1792 France and crushing everybody with him at the head of my armies. It was a lot of fun. [:D]

I have also played Austria several times and almost always have a greedy treacherous Russian on my Eastern flank.[8|] So I have had to fight off several Russina invasion of Austira.

[Titi]

Here is the VP situation at the end of March 1795, with economic manipulation spend for June. A hint that France will go move.



Easier with hindsight [:D]

About PP, Austria is back at the top of Neutral zone, while GB is moving in the same direction. Turkey jusr came back toward the 7 and Russia is still in the ten.

[Titi]

Below you see the French deploiement at the start of April 1795.

[Titi]

March ended by a declaration of Napoleon that France was back as a major power controlling Flanders and Lorraine, even if nearly for two years. [8|] France Infantry had their morale boosted ( to four).

April began with a French declaration of war to ... Prussia. No real surprise here. The Surprise came from Prussia that elect to not call his Austrian ally to help.

Prussian Army regroup in Duchies, while France regroup three stacks on Berg while besieging Kleves and Palatinate.
Only Berg siege was successful.

May saw the Prussian move first or rather stayed on station in Duchies. France moved then and while 2 corps stayed to continue sieges in Palatinate and Berg, all the others corps in the area engaged the Prussian army.
The French started by trying an outflank against a Pruesian counterattack. Hoche made a slight mistake by sending both cavalry corps in the outflanking force and denying temprary the tactical disadvantage Prussia had with the cavalry superiority. Worst, Prussia did a first succesful counterattack (rolled a 6) that weakened seriously the French pinning force. But the end of the first round saw the outflanking french forces join the battlefield. Brunswich promptly engaged his guard at no cost.
But then the Prussian star vanished as the second counterattack was a complete failure (rolled 1 modified to 0) while France killed the Prussian Infantry by ten of thousand.

Still worst, the cavalry pursuit saw half of the 16 000 Prussian cavalrymen that started the combat dying protecting the defeated army. (France rolled a 6).

Prussian army reduced by half moved in the forest of east Duchies while victorious france converted the Prussian army depot of the area for France use.

Prussia, probably still hoping for some help and not expecting what can be worst, refused to talk of peace, but expecting some future instability, free the nation of Saxony.

It was quickly used as France reinforcement flow to completly replace the ten thousand deads in the corps. And France used them immediately then by moving first and moving again against Prussian force.
It was an echelon attack now against the same counterattack. With worst result and the same defeat. The same bad pursuit that ended the day with only some thousands Prussian still able to fight for another day and cavalrymen men reduced to one or two thousands. Prussia move what was left back.

Pic of end of June 1795 :



Forgetting to add that Berg and Palatinate garissons were killed or captured by France.

[Titi]

Maybe by taking a close look at former picture, you noticed that Austria is moving in number toward the West; here is the explaination.

April saw Russia trying to move like France on land by combining movement with Spain. That left Austria move some corps from the West toward Vienna while still regrouping in the Western montains of Hungary and sending two corps to the east. And at the same time thousand men of the garrison of Olmutz and krakow died of hunger in the besieged cities.
Russia saw the siege of Olmutz came to an end when the two thousands men that were still alive fron the eight thousand that were present at the start surrendered. While the three thousands from 11 still keeping the wall of Krakow stayed on station.

May saw Austria again forced to move first and using a depot kept by a thousand men at Brunn suplying the corps of Vienna that moved to join the army of Mack in the same mountain area North of Leopoldstad; while the two eastern corps moved inside the moutain in the south of Galicia ready to counterattack the Russian continuous line of depot and cossack.
The last event of Austria was the dead by hunger of the 3 000 heroic defenders of Krakow.

It was an unexpected bonus to Russia that moved a sweden corps to face the depot in Brunn, while two corps under Fersen moved in the mountain of Moravia to open the road of Western Austria.
And main army with seven corps led by Suvarov took station in Olmutz.
After the surrender of the depot garrison, Swedish corps took control of deserted Brunn and Russia control of a Moravia province, the second after East Galicia.

June started with Russian corps in supply two area of Vienna.

But a surprise came fron the diplomacy. While French diplomats were proclaiming that it was Russian task to make understand to Prussia the interest of a surrender, Russian diplomat met the Central coalition. Seeing the Prussian will to fight and the upcoming clash between Ausrtian and Russian army that will probably saw an attition battle between Austrian troops with better morale and Russian troops with better leadership; Russai tested the will to surrender of Austria.
Some general chat with every kind of alliance put on the table was quickly made, that echoed in every ambassy with thing more improbable than a nightmare or a phantasm.
Austria faced with a still possible two front war with the collapse of its North ally and a capital in danger agreed to a conditionnal peace that took Europe by surprise. Russia took a royal marriage and reparation for the next 6 months to recover the cost of the campaign while Austria covered her territory.

June so saw Austria move back to the west while echos of Prussian defeats came to ears while Russia moved back toward West Galicia.

Pics at the end of June 1795.

[Titi]

In the South, after the conqest of Cyrenaica and Tripolitean, GB move and conquest Rhode ans started June by taking control of an Egyptean forest from the local garrison.

Meanwhile the Turkish troops moved inside and outside Austria, stayed out of Russia and feudals were moving in the balkans abd greece.

Pics at the end of June with the GB advance.

[Murat]

I can't find my 1792 rules but I am almost certain (I have been wrong before, just search these forums and see) that France needs to reclaim 6 of the 7 listed areas to get dominance, but will not lose it until she fails to control 2. Since Austria clearly controls 3, France would seem to be non-dominant (sorry Nappy if I am right, but you really need to repress the Austrian Empire).

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Thank you by the way for doing this, I do not have 6 other friends to play this with like I did back in college so it is nice to live vicariously [:)]

[Titi]

ORIGINAL: Murat

I can't find my 1792 rules but I am almost certain (I have been wrong before, just search these forums and see) that France needs to reclaim 6 of the 7 listed areas to get dominance, but will not lose it until she fails to control 2. Since Austria clearly controls 3, France would seem to be non-dominant (sorry Nappy if I am right, but you really need to repress the Austrian Empire).

*edited for this*

Thank you by the way for doing this, I do not have 6 other friends to play this with like I did back in college so it is nice to live vicariously [:)]

For the first part, i thank so and would like so and searched the 1792 variant for this, but as per rule, only two are necessary.

For the second part, thank you. It took me some time to update this one, for a forgotten camera, discharged batteries, a lack of interesting events and a loaded schedule. However, now that i'm in vacation and need to free some space on the camera memory stick [:)], i will do a quick update.

The summer saw Prussia surrender unconditionally to France that took 3 minors (Palatinate that had a capital with walls too strong for the Baden sieging forces, Duchies and Saxony), a 36 months peace and a third one i forgot.
As a result of Prussia falling in Instability, Meckenlenbug went back to neutrality for a short time, before being reoccupied by Prussia.


The summer also saw a conditionnal peace given by Turkey to GB with sweet terms : a 24 months peace and a royal marriage.

Austria was waiting a declaration of war from France in september but nothing came.

Below the army placement at the end of september 1795.

[Titi]

October 1795 saw a french DOW to Austria. Vienna was took completely by surprise, thinking the war would be dclared either in september or at the end of the coming winter. So while paying reparations to Russia, the treasure was nearly empty having only 28$ for the 3 coming months.

Frenchs troops moving first, enters slowly in Austria controlled territories missing all attempted sieges.

Here the french moves in the middle of october 1795 move phase.

[Titi]

Austria tried a counterattack in Italy spending a little more than half of her treasury for it. The corp alone sieging the capital of Piedmont and those forward in Lombardy were attacked but with poor results as Austrian forced were forced back from where they came.

November saw Austria surrender unconditionnally : Papacy, Switzerland and Piedmont joined the French sphere of influence; France gained access in Austian territories and a 3 year forced peace was enforced.

Austria was unlucky as Toscany and Romagna were occupied by Piedmont corps, so both provinces became neutrals and were shared one each by France and Austria in the next month.

1796 started by an inactive Spain still controlled by Russia being DOW by France. It was a phoney war as Spain surrender immediatly to France that accepted a conditionnal peace and took 24 month of peace and control of Naples.

The goal was to protect the fleet from British anger that is looking for any opportunity to DOW on Spain and at the same time to reduce PP of Russia that was again in the 15. What i add forgotten was that Sapin would call me and force me to broke the alliance.
However at first step of dominance, Russia is less a target for the others, at least it was what i thank.

1796 saw a French player broke the alliance with Russia, make an alliance with Prussia and gave back Saxony and Turkey landing two corps at Constantinople and marching those to the north while slowly marching three corps toward Poland. Prussia also allied with Turkey.

Everything was ready to a DOW of 4 countries to Russia.

[Hoche]

Two things.

First, If the Austrian expected a French attack in Sept. he should have had 6-8 corps in the mnts east of Zurich. From that position an army can move quickly to face a threat in Germany or Italy. It is also a strong defensive position if attacked (mnt defense bonus.)

Second, if you expect to be attacked in Sept expect to be attacked in Oct. Even if you are paying reperations you need to maintain a war chest of at least $30. Buy militia is funds are tight and hit your allies for $.

[Treefrog]

Tiki, thanks for puttin' it out there. Been a few decades since I saw EiA. Lookin' forward to the 'puter game when available. In the meantime, I have been seduced by CoG.[;)]

[Ivan58]

Nice screenshots. Has the taste and flavour of a tabletop game. You could swear it's cardboard pieces moving. [:D]