What WW2 Scenario Would We Like?

[MPHopcroft1]

Dunkirk 1940 (the Allied goal is to evacuate as muich of the BEF as they can, while the Germans must capture or destroy as much of the BEF as possible)
Arnhem 1944 (operational commanders must salvage an ill-advsied strategic operation)
Patton's Backhand Blow 1945 (theoretical): (After the defeat of Germany, the Allies turn on each other in a dispute over the spoils as the Russians and Americans try to drive each other outs of the remains of Germany)

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: MPHopcroft

Arnhem 1944 (operational commanders must salvage an ill-advsied strategic operation)
Patton's Backhand Blow 1945 (theoretical): (After the defeat of Germany, the Allies turn on each other in a dispute over the spoils as the Russians and Americans try to drive each other outs of the remains of Germany)

There are scenarios on both of these. The disk Patton scenario has a lot of problems- but there's a Belgian gentleman who is currently working on an improved version.

[Peever]

I would love to see a WWI (or WWII) scenario of North America using the Harry Turtledlove 191-Timeline ( click here for details.  I'm only halfway through the series but it seems like it could make a fun scenario).  In general though I would love to see more hypothetical/alternate history scenarios.  

[Silvanski]

ORIGINAL: Peever

I would love to see a WWI (or WWII) scenario of North America using the Harry Turtledlove 191-Timeline ( click here for details.  I'm only halfway through the series but it seems like it could make a fun scenario).  In general though I would love to see more hypothetical/alternate history scenarios.  

There is one for COW... look here American Front 1914

[TOCarroll]

Is there a scenario out on Manstein's (theoretical) "Backhand Blow" at Kursk. The scenario postulates that the Germans wait for a Russian Offensive in 1943, and smash it with a counter offensive. Also, a Kursk scenario that begins as soon as the thaw ends (rather than being postponed to wait for more tanks) would be worth a look.[:)]

[Okimaw]

How's about a hypothetical Warsaw Uprising with Red Army intervention?

[ec2285]

I would like to see something regarding Operation Downfall/Olympic/Coronet about the proposed invasion of mainland Japan. If something like this already exists please feel free to point me in the right direction because I haven't seen it, although I am sure there must be something..

[a white rabbit]

..Invasion Australia..
 
..and historical, Invasion of Dutch East Indies

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: ec2285

I would like to see something regarding Operation Downfall/Olympic/Coronet about the proposed invasion of mainland Japan. If something like this already exists please feel free to point me in the right direction because I haven't seen it, although I am sure there must be something..

There's "Olympic 45" by John Boomershine which looks pretty good. I've known John a while and he's a decent designer. This is a COW scenario so you can load it right up in TOAW III. There's also "Operation Olympic" for Volume I. I think I player this one and as I recall it's not so good. Stick with the above.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..Invasion Australia..

Be more specific. I don't think an invasion of the entire continent was even remotely practical. So do you envisage the Japanese just seizing Darwin, or making a more ambitious assault on Perth or even Queensland? I started to look into the former a while back, as it would probably be the most realistic, but didn't get very far.

..and historical, Invasion of Dutch East Indies

There's a Java '42 scenario of which I have a copy. Also, a while back I was working on a scenario covering the entire Centrifugal Offensive. I finished the map and most of the Allied OOB as I recall. Whether this is really a practical project for TOAW I'm not sure. Perhaps I'll return to it in the future. It would have to be very event-driven.

[Okimaw]

How about an all out war between the USSR and the allies. On a scale like DNO or something of that order, none of this Patton 45 stuff

[a white rabbit]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..Invasion Australia..

Be more specific. I don't think an invasion of the entire continent was even remotely practical. So do you envisage the Japanese just seizing Darwin, or making a more ambitious assault on Perth or even Queensland? I started to look into the former a while back, as it would probably be the most realistic, but didn't get very far.

..just the usable bits..

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

Be more specific. I don't think an invasion of the entire continent was even remotely practical. So do you envisage the Japanese just seizing Darwin, or making a more ambitious assault on Perth or even Queensland? I started to look into the former a while back, as it would probably be the most realistic, but didn't get very far.

..just the usable bits..

That's really not "more specific", Richard.

[Panama Red]

A New Guinea Campaign using the PO (versus PBEM).

[JAMiAM]

I'd like to see a semi-historical "Sedan to Abbeville" scenario that would start with, or immediately following, the breakthrough at Sedan. Use 6 hour turns, at 2.5 Km per hex, battalion level (for a huge monster grand tactical version) or half day turns at 5 Km per hex, regimental level for a more "standard" operational level game.

Basic assumptions driving the hypothetical aspects would be:
Dutch offer more resistance, and bad weather (or luck) spoil the airborne ops in the Netherlands and at Eben Emal. Bridges over the Meuse are blown early, which along with the above, slows the Wehrmacht's progress in the north, allowing the Allies a better chance at disengaging their forces along the Dyle Line to try to break back through. Gamelin suffers a debilitating stroke, and DeGaulle takes over. CW forces choose to fight back toward Paris, and to pinch off the schwerpunkt, instead of retreating toward the Channel ports.

The map needs to be big enough to cover the rough rectangle of London - Cologne - Nancy - Paris. This way there is still some operational flexibility as the Germans can maintain a threat against Paris, and not be hamstrung by being forced to follow the historical path to the sea.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: JAMiAM

Gamelin suffers a debilitating stroke, and DeGaulle takes over.

Sorry, but this really is wild fantasy. De Gaulle was a divisional commander in 1940 and only came to prominence through the political rather than the military route. Weygand was an obvious and good choice to replace Gamelin, but frankly the confusion produced by replacing Gamelin was a disaster in itself. Finally, I suspect De Gaulle's vigour as a divisional commander would not translate well to higher levels. See Rommel's performance in high command.

allowing the Allies a better chance at disengaging their forces along the Dyle Line to try to break back through.

If the Germans haven't dashed across the Meuse, then the Allies aren't going to disengage from the Dyle. One can't have the retreat without the breakthrough which caused it, and once the breakthrough has happened, whether the bridges are intact or not isn't really important. The Germans aren't going to wait for follow up forces or resupply.

CW forces choose to fight back toward Paris, and to pinch off the schwerpunkt, instead of retreating toward the Channel ports.

The British (no Commonwealth troops at this time, though 1st Canadian was slated to ship over in June) forces were attempting to pinch off the schwerepunkt for several days. When the French counterattacks failed to materialise, they cut their losses and got away with the only trained personnel the British army had available. Of course, with your other suggestions this is moot anyway since the Germans won't get to the sea quite so soon. It will probably take them another week or two.

I'm not entirely keen on the sort of scenario which calls up half a dozen "what-ifs" tenuous all at once. It is much more interesting to come up with one single change which has a marked effect on the battlefield; one could have the Germans deployed for their original Schlieffen Plan redux, for example. That's something that nearly happened. A believable hypothetical will make the game much more compelling.

[hank]

my 2 cents
 
 
Kursk South (only the southern sector) - regiment/companies; 2.5 Km scale; 1/2 day turns
Guadalcanal (include everything possible to model the naval aspect - one of the greatest naval/land/air battle of WWII IMHO - especially the naval engagements)
Huertgen Forest (I think Aachen was already mentioned)
 
Is there a Lorraine campaign for ToaW?  If not, include it on my list.
 
Rauss' battles along the Aksay River (west of Stalingrad)
 
... just a few on my list of battles  ... if some of these are already created, let me know where?
 
hank
 
 
 

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: hank

Guadalcanal (include everything possible to model the naval aspect - one of the greatest naval/land/air battle of WWII IMHO - especially the naval engagements)

There's a couple of Guadalcanal scenarios. I think you'll be disappointed if you want to play out the naval aspect in TOAW, though. This is best modelled with events.

Is there a Lorraine campaign for ToaW?

There are several small to medium sized scenarios.

[TOCarroll]

I'd like some small scenarios. Something like SPI's (boardgame) 4 Battles in North Afrika, or the Waterloo 4 Pack. There are a set of Easter Front scenarion (Road to Moscow), that are kind of like that. Or Ardennes, 40 & 44. Some scenarions, not too big a map, or too many turns, but a related theme. (North Afrika had Crudaser, Cauldiron, 1st Alimen and Kasserine, all at regimental scale.
 
Basically a WW2 battle that can be played in an evening.''
 
Tom OC

[PaladinSix]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

ORIGINAL: JAMiAM

Gamelin suffers a debilitating stroke, and DeGaulle takes over.

Sorry, but this really is wild fantasy. De Gaulle was a divisional commander in 1940 and only came to prominence through the political rather than the military route. Weygand was an obvious and good choice to replace Gamelin, but frankly the confusion produced by replacing Gamelin was a disaster in itself. Finally, I suspect De Gaulle's vigour as a divisional commander would not translate well to higher levels. See Rommel's performance in high command.

allowing the Allies a better chance at disengaging their forces along the Dyle Line to try to break back through.

If the Germans haven't dashed across the Meuse, then the Allies aren't going to disengage from the Dyle. One can't have the retreat without the breakthrough which caused it, and once the breakthrough has happened, whether the bridges are intact or not isn't really important. The Germans aren't going to wait for follow up forces or resupply.

CW forces choose to fight back toward Paris, and to pinch off the schwerpunkt, instead of retreating toward the Channel ports.

The British (no Commonwealth troops at this time, though 1st Canadian was slated to ship over in June) forces were attempting to pinch off the schwerepunkt for several days. When the French counterattacks failed to materialise, they cut their losses and got away with the only trained personnel the British army had available. Of course, with your other suggestions this is moot anyway since the Germans won't get to the sea quite so soon. It will probably take them another week or two.

I'm not entirely keen on the sort of scenario which calls up half a dozen "what-ifs" tenuous all at once. It is much more interesting to come up with one single change which has a marked effect on the battlefield; one could have the Germans deployed for their original Schlieffen Plan redux, for example. That's something that nearly happened. A believable hypothetical will make the game much more compelling.

One can't help but feel that GD is not a fan of "alternative history." Neither am I really, but I think most of the interesting battles (that are viable for TOAW), seem to have been done. Its now become a question of either throwing some bizarre situations into the mix, or taking the old scenarios and making them better.

PaladinSix