Ne4w game v Desertwolf
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RE: Battle of Calcutta
Attacking force 193096 troops, 3634 guns, 4242 vehicles, Assault Value = 8291
Defending force 51287 troops, 425 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 1427
The key numbers are below he lost 286/1427 AV or c 20% of AV
I lost about c 16% of mine in this attack
BUT I have 2 more Divs en route to reinforce and hopefully my air/Arty can slow down his rate of recovery of disabled squads
Basically I did proportionally more damage to his AV than he did to mine and mine is spread over more units so should bounce back quicker especially if my Arty/Air can do their job
Squads: 12 destroyed, 274 disabled
Squads: 168 destroyed, 1201 disabled
Defending force 51287 troops, 425 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 1427
The key numbers are below he lost 286/1427 AV or c 20% of AV
I lost about c 16% of mine in this attack
BUT I have 2 more Divs en route to reinforce and hopefully my air/Arty can slow down his rate of recovery of disabled squads
Basically I did proportionally more damage to his AV than he did to mine and mine is spread over more units so should bounce back quicker especially if my Arty/Air can do their job
Squads: 12 destroyed, 274 disabled
Squads: 168 destroyed, 1201 disabled
RE: Battle of Calcutta
Unfortunately this is the math of fighting in heavy urban terrain with large forts....
RE: Battle of Calcutta
The IL2's have been operating at 12k feet may need to bring them down to 6k for next attack and take the pain of his AA to increase his disruption
RE: Battle of Calcutta
As expected I am out recovering him at Calcutta
the original attack that achieved 1:2 had AV ratio (unadjusted) of 5.8:1 - 8,291:1,427
the next day after the losses on my 1st deliberate attack it was 6.3:1 - 7,105:1,129
the next day after one day of recovery it was 6.4:1 - 7,382:1,142
So I am going to try a second deliberate attack as my fatigue and disruption are both down and I want to try and get a 1:1
some air units are left on airfield attack to increase disruption in support units - but 90% of air is set to Ground Attack - I dont expect to cause casualties I just want to boost his fatigue and disruption levels before the assault.
I cannot afford to let my un adjusted AV drop below 6k and I will only attack when its above 7.2k so my redline for pausing the attack and giving up is 6k
the original attack that achieved 1:2 had AV ratio (unadjusted) of 5.8:1 - 8,291:1,427
the next day after the losses on my 1st deliberate attack it was 6.3:1 - 7,105:1,129
the next day after one day of recovery it was 6.4:1 - 7,382:1,142
So I am going to try a second deliberate attack as my fatigue and disruption are both down and I want to try and get a 1:1
some air units are left on airfield attack to increase disruption in support units - but 90% of air is set to Ground Attack - I dont expect to cause casualties I just want to boost his fatigue and disruption levels before the assault.
I cannot afford to let my un adjusted AV drop below 6k and I will only attack when its above 7.2k so my redline for pausing the attack and giving up is 6k
RE: Battle of Calcutta
I will not break my army on Calcutta getting bled white would be a massive mistake hence my stop level
RE: Battle of Calcutta
I have 27th US Div now at Bombay recovering which will be ready in 2 weeks to go back in the line as most of its losses were disablements
20th Indian Div was gutted in 1st attack and has withdrawn to rest and recover
14th Indian Div and 3rd (Special) Div are moving on Imphal and Ledo respectively
255th Armoured bde and an Inf Bde are keeping the trapped Japanese Div in north contained
So the cupboard is pretty bare in terms of additional Infantry units to bring in
20th Indian Div was gutted in 1st attack and has withdrawn to rest and recover
14th Indian Div and 3rd (Special) Div are moving on Imphal and Ledo respectively
255th Armoured bde and an Inf Bde are keeping the trapped Japanese Div in north contained
So the cupboard is pretty bare in terms of additional Infantry units to bring in
RE: Battle of Calcutta
121 achieved but at the cost of another 10k casualties - urban fighting is pitiless
Ground combat at Calcutta (52,37)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 208259 troops, 4134 guns, 5078 vehicles, Assault Value = 7439
Defending force 48708 troops, 423 guns, 476 vehicles, Assault Value = 1169
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 6
Allied adjusted assault: 8588
Japanese adjusted defense: 7001
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 6)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 6
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
4519 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 380 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 86 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 43 (12 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 80 (21 destroyed, 59 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
9287 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 1236 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 188 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 209 disabled
Guns lost 268 (16 destroyed, 252 disabled)
Vehicles lost 128 (5 destroyed, 123 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Marine Division
Americal Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
23rd Indian Division
8th Australian Division
43rd Infantry Division
25th Indian Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
26th Indian Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
19th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
2nd USMC Engineer Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
7th Indian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
14th British Brigade
3rd Motor Brigade
6th Australian Division
18th British Division
23rd Marine Regiment
7th Australian Division
50th Tank Brigade
43rd Cavalry Regiment
41st Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
205th Field Artillery Battalion
South Pacific
Eastern Army
154th FA Bn
85th British AT Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
XV Indian Corps
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
I Australian Corps
India Command
134th Field Artillery Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
17th Division
16th Garrison Unit
56th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Garrison Unit
4th Tank Regiment
88th Naval Guard Unit
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
17th Garrison Unit
64th Naval Guard Unit
65th Naval Guard Unit
54th Const Co
10th Special Base Force
12th Naval Construction Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
19th Army
21st Fld AA Gun Co
4th JNAF AF Unit
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
12th Base Force
12th JAAF Base Force
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
53rd Const Co
14th Naval Construction Battalion
3rd Air Army
5th Air Division
4th Shipping Engineer Regiment
23rd AA Regiment
21st JAAF AF Bn
RE: Battle of Calcutta
Looked like 17th Div took a lot of casualties this round and his AV should be down to about 700 tomorrow
Mine was down at 6400 so will need a few days rest before the next attack
Mine was down at 6400 so will need a few days rest before the next attack
RE: Battle of Calcutta
The good news is none of my Divisions were rendered combat ineffective by this attack so with a couple of days rest should recover reasonably quickly
RE: Battle of Calcutta
He hit me yesterday LRCAP over Calcutta shot down about 100 obsolete fighters
Today I hit Chittagong airfied destroying 30 on the ground and
Today I hit Chittagong airfied destroying 30 on the ground and
RE: Battle of Calcutta
I have 3 major offensives planned after I take Calcutta for the rest of 1943 - together these offensives should take a significant step forward to victory
The first of these will be the culmination of Hydra after Calcutta I will take back Ceylon and by taking Ceylon open up round the clock bombardments of Chittagong
More to follow after planning is finalised
Andy
The first of these will be the culmination of Hydra after Calcutta I will take back Ceylon and by taking Ceylon open up round the clock bombardments of Chittagong
More to follow after planning is finalised
Andy
RE: Battle of Calcutta
Calcutta falls !!!
RE: Battle of Calcutta
Ground combat at Calcutta (52,37)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 208050 troops, 4522 guns, 5508 vehicles, Assault Value = 6599
Defending force 32960 troops, 340 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 308
Allied adjusted assault: 5142
Japanese adjusted defense: 789
Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Calcutta !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
6951 casualties reported
Squads: 193 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 231 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 190 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 119 (97 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 306 (306 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1405 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 213 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Vehicles lost 29 (2 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Assaulting units:
8th Australian Division
2/4th Armoured Regiment
9th Australian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
43rd Cavalry Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
23rd British Brigade
40th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
Gardner's Horse Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
43rd Infantry Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
26th Indian Division
25th Indian Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
268th Motorised Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
7th Indian Division
2nd USMC Engineer Regiment
27th Infantry/A Division
19th Indian Division
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
23rd Marine Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade
27th Infantry/B Division
32nd Infantry Division
18th British Division
2nd British Division
6th Australian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
7th Australian Division
41st Infantry Division
27th Infantry/C Division
147th Field Artillery Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XV Indian Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
I Australian Corps
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
154th FA Bn
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Eastern Army
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
South Pacific
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
India Command
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
IV Indian Corps
9th Marine Defense Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
III Indian Corps
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
188th Field Artillery Regiment
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
16th Garrison Unit
2nd Tank Regiment
17th Division
14th Garrison Unit
17th Garrison Unit
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
65th Naval Guard Unit
4th JNAF AF Unit
4th Shipping Engineer Regiment
14th Naval Construction Battalion
12th JAAF Base Force
12th Naval Construction Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Const Co
3rd Air Army
53rd Const Co
23rd AA Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
19th Army
10th Special Base Force
64th Naval Guard Unit
12th Base Force
21st Fld AA Gun Co
5th Air Division
21st JAAF AF Bn
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 208050 troops, 4522 guns, 5508 vehicles, Assault Value = 6599
Defending force 32960 troops, 340 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 308
Allied adjusted assault: 5142
Japanese adjusted defense: 789
Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Calcutta !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
6951 casualties reported
Squads: 193 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 231 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 190 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 119 (97 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 306 (306 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1405 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 213 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Vehicles lost 29 (2 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Assaulting units:
8th Australian Division
2/4th Armoured Regiment
9th Australian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
43rd Cavalry Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
23rd British Brigade
40th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
Gardner's Horse Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
43rd Infantry Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
26th Indian Division
25th Indian Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
268th Motorised Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
7th Indian Division
2nd USMC Engineer Regiment
27th Infantry/A Division
19th Indian Division
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
23rd Marine Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade
27th Infantry/B Division
32nd Infantry Division
18th British Division
2nd British Division
6th Australian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
7th Australian Division
41st Infantry Division
27th Infantry/C Division
147th Field Artillery Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XV Indian Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
I Australian Corps
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
154th FA Bn
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Eastern Army
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
South Pacific
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
India Command
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
IV Indian Corps
9th Marine Defense Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
III Indian Corps
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
188th Field Artillery Regiment
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
16th Garrison Unit
2nd Tank Regiment
17th Division
14th Garrison Unit
17th Garrison Unit
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
65th Naval Guard Unit
4th JNAF AF Unit
4th Shipping Engineer Regiment
14th Naval Construction Battalion
12th JAAF Base Force
12th Naval Construction Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Const Co
3rd Air Army
53rd Const Co
23rd AA Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
19th Army
10th Special Base Force
64th Naval Guard Unit
12th Base Force
21st Fld AA Gun Co
5th Air Division
21st JAAF AF Bn
RE: Battle of Calcutta
That was quick after you said you would take it, was it the Bambino calling his shot?
RE: Battle of Calcutta
No I dont think so after you get the AV and forts down to a certain level it becomes inevitable that it will fall
Been pounding Ceylon for last few days as I prep my next operation
Been pounding Ceylon for last few days as I prep my next operation
RE: Battle of Calcutta
Sorry all been having a few issues got a temporary medicine induced eysight problem can see llike a hawk in distance but everythiong close in is a blur - cannot get new specs until medication settles down so need to wait
Lots been happening I actually ademitted defeat and told Desertwolf the game was lost as I cannot see a way back for a couple of years and the only sensible strategy for me to follow is to turtle and wait for aircraft and pilots and Essex class
He is a very good player and doesnt make mistakes so I need to play it smart and boring so I have conceded but as i said he wants to play on so we shall.
He hit a major convoy with supplies off of LA totally destroyed it synch bug on 1st day meant I didnt even see the attack so the 2nd day attack was also a freebie as my convoy went on its merry way annoyingly the 8 CVE's and Essex had departed a few days earlier to the Marquwesas intending to provide close escort on what I thought was the dangerous Tahiti - NZ stretch - how little I knew
Lots been happening I actually ademitted defeat and told Desertwolf the game was lost as I cannot see a way back for a couple of years and the only sensible strategy for me to follow is to turtle and wait for aircraft and pilots and Essex class
He is a very good player and doesnt make mistakes so I need to play it smart and boring so I have conceded but as i said he wants to play on so we shall.
He hit a major convoy with supplies off of LA totally destroyed it synch bug on 1st day meant I didnt even see the attack so the 2nd day attack was also a freebie as my convoy went on its merry way annoyingly the 8 CVE's and Essex had departed a few days earlier to the Marquwesas intending to provide close escort on what I thought was the dangerous Tahiti - NZ stretch - how little I knew