Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/05/42

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Day Air attack on 110th Division, at 48,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 7 destroyed, 8 damaged

I did some LRCAP (range 4) to interrupt those Chinese bombers. 9 are shot down today and surprisingly only ONE Oscar is an op loss! [:D]

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Day Air attack on 69th Division, at 32,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 64


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Yokosuka 1st SNLF, at 35,29


Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 54


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

unfortunately my retreating paras are now training targets for the Allied... the move at 1 mile a day... [8|] Is there a speed slower than 1 mile a day?

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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 183514 troops, 1589 guns, 1303 vehicles, Assault Value = 3838

Defending force 42091 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Japanese max assault: 3315 - adjusted assault: 3510

Allied max defense: 1014 - adjusted defense: 2369

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 5


Japanese ground losses:
1830 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 32

Allied ground losses:
2494 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

After a couple of times 2:1 I only achieve a 1:1 this turn. Seems the British reinforcements were worth it. Though there are two good things. Firstly, my engineers reduced a fortification level (which they didn´t during previous attacks, though there were a 2:1 to take a fort down) and secondly the Allied ground losses are higher than mine...

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 162782 troops, 1775 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 3407

Defending force 41645 troops, 433 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 733



Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

we will attack here in one week, when all my troops are in position. Bad news of the day: two weeks ago an AP was torped carrying a third of the 14th Army HQ. Unfortunately it was the number 1 fragment of the HQ which was sunk with the AP. The result of this is that the game now makes the 110 support squads of the rest of this HQ to a fragment instead of recoginizing "hey, this should be the parent unit now"... [8|] Means, that this seems to be the most succesful sub attack of the whole war as it killed A WHOLE HQ unit as fragments don´t work as a HQ. I can only use it as additional support for the rest of the war... Great, isn´t it? Am I ranting? No, I´m just going nuts...

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Ground combat at 48,29

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 44648 troops, 473 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 898

Defending force 39581 troops, 107 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 1322



Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

more Chinese LCUs are coming into this hex. To bring in more troops on a way that has not to shock attack over the river into "MY" hex takes a month as I have to pass two wooden hexes.

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14280 troops, 462 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4025

Defending force 278599 troops, 998 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8115



Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported

Homans av still goes up. Also the damage to the airfield is repaired in two days (after more than 200 airfield hits [X(])


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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 94125 troops, 347 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3009

Defending force 147691 troops, 1029 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2306


Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37471 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1320

Defending force 44648 troops, 473 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 898


Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[castor troy]

Starting off with the bad news of the day: DINAH II RECONS REPORT 30+ P38 Lightnings!!! FLYING CAP OVER IMPHAL!!!! [X(] Should I surrender now, or next week? Now I know why I saw some P38 op losses! They happened during the long transit from the West coast to India...I´m already thinking about halting some merchant shipyards (never done that before in three years of playing) to ramp up my Tojo/Tony production to 600-700 planes a month... then I will use PzB style attacks and will bring in hundreds of planes, no matter how many I will lose! [;)] IF NEEDED, WE WILL OUTPRODUCE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! [8|]




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42

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ASW attack at 82,124

Japanese Ships
SS I-28, hits 1

Allied Ships
DMS Dorsey
DD Parrott
DD Rathburne
DD Lawrence
DD Kennison
DD Scout

hmm, another of those sudden attacks in the middle of nowhere! This hex is 12 hexes South of the Fidjis and I had never a report of this sub being spotted. Don´t know if those hunter killer groups are just passing over me or if they were set to go into that hex (happened a couple of times already). Intel perhaps? [&:]

Interesting here also is that one of the six subs operating in this area was spotted by a Dauntless and a Kingfisher. Looks like his carriers have changed direction again... My Glens didn´t spot them though...

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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 24
B5N Kate x 57
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

Cagayan airbase launches training raids more regularly than Clark Field although Clark Field has an air HQ. Perhaps the supplies are the key factor. Cagayan has 26.000 supplies and Clark Field has only 14.000. I did already mention that there are tens of thousands additional supply points sitting in the Philipines, they are just not transferred to the only base with lots of troops and 400 aircraft. The only place where the supply "system" really works is on islands, as the "system" can´t transfer the supplies you bring in out again...

Looking to Rangoon, my AKs have unloaded 10.400 supplies of 20.000 bringing the supply level at Rangoon up to 18.000. Means from 14-15.000 to 18.000! Not bad to raise the supply level by about 3.000 points if you unload nearly 10.000! [8|] In other words, while I unload supplies at the base where the Southern Area HQ, an air fleet HQ, lots LCUs and hundreds of planes are stationed, the supply "system" decides that I´m dumb and that those supplies that I shipped in should be transferred to some empty bases (like Bangkok, Saigon) to raise the supply level there from 20.000 to 25.000. . Sorry, but am I really the only one who experiences such things? Or am I just the only one RANTING about it? Those things are annoying enough most times but if you are really handicapped by the "system" then it get´s really bad as I can´t get any replacement aircrafts as this f***ing base stays under 20.000 supplies even if I ship it in. But it is necessary that Malaya - which is empty - and Indochina - which is empty too - has altogether perhaps 100.000 supply points...[8|] Someone help me please...

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Day Air attack on 35th Division, at 47,29


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

thought the SB-2c would perhaps stay grounded after my LRCAP last turn...

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Day Air attack on 26th Division, at 47,29


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 12


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 69th Division, at 32,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 58


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on 29th Regional Army Corps, at 48,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 48
Ki-21 Sally x 153

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

153 of the 210 Sallies decide to go on ground attack and instead of dispersing they all attack one out of 5 units there. And do the immense damage of 96 casualties. As much as three dozen SB2c would do... As Homan is completely repaired already, I´m switching to airfield attack again and will see 200+ bombers flying then...


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 163764 troops, 1803 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 3431

Defending force 41480 troops, 433 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 732



Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14337 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4023

Defending force 278922 troops, 1001 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8136



Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5372 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3703

Defending force 38704 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 884



Allied ground losses:
224 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86467 troops, 328 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2777

Defending force 147539 troops, 1025 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2306


Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37347 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1315

Defending force 44553 troops, 472 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 894


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Starting off with the bad news of the day: DINAH II RECONS REPORT 30+ P38 Lightnings!!! FLYING CAP OVER IMPHAL!!!! [X(] Should I surrender now, or next week? Now I know why I saw some P38 op losses! They happened during the long transit from the West coast to India...

...

Hmmm, someone couldn't resist temptation and moved those units off the West Coast before October 42 (as per scenario instructions). They were supposed to stay in the US as protection from raids...(as they did in real life).

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Starting off with the bad news of the day: DINAH II RECONS REPORT 30+ P38 Lightnings!!! FLYING CAP OVER IMPHAL!!!! [X(] Should I surrender now, or next week? Now I know why I saw some P38 op losses! They happened during the long transit from the West coast to India...

...

Hmmm, someone couldn't resist temptation and moved those units off the West Coast before October 42 (as per scenario instructions). They were supposed to stay in the US as protection from raids...(as they did in real life).

I fear that those fighters will shift the odds towards the Allied side over Burma.... [;)]

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Starting off with the bad news of the day: DINAH II RECONS REPORT 30+ P38 Lightnings!!! FLYING CAP OVER IMPHAL!!!! [X(] Should I surrender now, or next week? Now I know why I saw some P38 op losses! They happened during the long transit from the West coast to India...

...

Hmmm, someone couldn't resist temptation and moved those units off the West Coast before October 42 (as per scenario instructions). They were supposed to stay in the US as protection from raids...(as they did in real life).

I fear that those fighters will shift the odds towards the Allied side over Burma.... [;)]

Oh, I would assume they will....

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Big B


Hmmm, someone couldn't resist temptation and moved those units off the West Coast before October 42 (as per scenario instructions). They were supposed to stay in the US as protection from raids...(as they did in real life).

I fear that those fighters will shift the odds towards the Allied side over Burma.... [;)]

Oh, I would assume they will....

Ahh, we´re not yet depressed! Our 100 mph slower Zeroes will eat those strange looking P38s for lunch... [:D] We would only be depressed if it would be the other way around...

a plane looking like that can´t be a killer! [8D]

[Feinder]

Regarding the "sudden" attacks on your subs...
 
More than likely it's:
a.  Sometimes you get "odd" pathing on your convoys - you'll see them moving in a wide arc appearently avoiding a spot or area.  The area in question, is usually a sub or two.  Sometimes it's possible to sort of "triangulate" the pathing, and find the center of where they're trying to avoid.  From there, you just send a ASW group to that spot, and if the sub hasn't moved, you attack it.  I haven't figured out yet if the TF is avoiding the sub because it's a sub, or because it's a sub with an airplane (and thus is actually avoiding the airbal - which is partially how the AI paths its convoys, is to avoid airbal projections).
b.  There is appearently a graphics glitch where, if a TF ends it's move in a hex with a sub (and the sub is NOT spotted and doesn't attack - which would spot it), the TF appears in the upper right corner of the hex.  It is displaying the TF as if there are multiple TFs in the hex, it's just that it DOESN'T display the sub in the middle of the hex, just the TF in the upper corner.
c.  I can count on my fingers all the times I've gotten a "(ship) is heading to 45,55" or whatever on Sigint.  It's usually crap, like "(ship) is heading to ." (no coords).  But in all my games, I actually have gotten an accurate hex location given for a specific ship, maybe 5 or 6 times.  So it's possible.  But if it's happened to you several times in this game, more than likely, your opponent is just pretty good at triangulating the paths.

The solution to above, is to move your subs each turn.
 
Good luck.
-F-

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Feinder

Regarding the "sudden" attacks on your subs...

More than likely it's:
a.  Sometimes you get "odd" pathing on your convoys - you'll see them moving in a wide arc appearently avoiding a spot or area.  The area in question, is usually a sub or two.  Sometimes it's possible to sort of "triangulate" the pathing, and find the center of where they're trying to avoid.  From there, you just send a ASW group to that spot, and if the sub hasn't moved, you attack it.  I haven't figured out yet if the TF is avoiding the sub because it's a sub, or because it's a sub with an airplane (and thus is actually avoiding the airbal - which is partially how the AI paths its convoys, is to avoid airbal projections).
b.  There is appearently a graphics glitch where, if a TF ends it's move in a hex with a sub (and the sub is NOT spotted and doesn't attack - which would spot it), the TF appears in the upper right corner of the hex.  It is displaying the TF as if there are multiple TFs in the hex, it's just that it DOESN'T display the sub in the middle of the hex, just the TF in the upper corner.
c.  I can count on my fingers all the times I've gotten a "(ship) is heading to 45,55" or whatever on Sigint.  It's usually crap, like "(ship) is heading to ." (no coords).  But in all my games, I actually have gotten an accurate hex location given for a specific ship, maybe 5 or 6 times.  So it's possible.  But if it's happened to you several times in this game, more than likely, your opponent is just pretty good at triangulating the paths.

The solution to above, is to move your subs each turn.

Good luck.
-F-

thanks Feinder! a and b is REALLY interesting! I haven´t thought about that at any time! [X(] I normally move my subs that are NOT spotted (at least I think they are not spotted) every third turn. Looks like I have to do all the clicking and move them more often....

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/07/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 69
Ki-21 Sally x 191

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 210

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

wow! When Homan is hit, then it is hit hard! [X(]

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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 47
B5N Kate x 57
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 45
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 41st Division, at 49,28


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Medan , at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 170

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

a big number of Sallies here can´t hit the airfield it seems. Recon for two weeks by Babs recon aircraft! Wanted to take out the reported 3!! Dutch Dornier patrol planes that spot every TF that is going from Singapore to Rangoon, I even have my TFs spotted that leave Battavia. Not bad for 3 patrol planes... I haven´t taken those bases as I had hoped my opponent would bring in some reinforcements which I could destroy... now seeing P38s in India I´m glad he didn´t bring reinforcements as I would lose the air superiority in the Singapore area... [:(]


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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 181768 troops, 1536 guns, 1285 vehicles, Assault Value = 3754

Defending force 36905 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Japanese max assault: 3320 - adjusted assault: 3488

Allied max defense: 836 - adjusted defense: 1247

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4


Japanese ground losses:
2466 casualties reported
Guns lost 51
Vehicles lost 17

Allied ground losses:
2097 casualties reported
Guns lost 24

the engineers fail, but a 2:1 knocks down the next fortification level. 5th attack, my total losses so far must be around 12.000.

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14317 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4023

Defending force 279062 troops, 999 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8158



Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1418 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3445

Defending force 41363 troops, 424 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 729



Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86576 troops, 327 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3246

Defending force 147481 troops, 1022 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2307


Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

17 Chinese LCUs are West of Sian now and Helpless is bringing more troops to the East to crack the hex where I have to shock attack entering it... He is in a better position, as if he wants to leave the hex he must also cross the river, but he does it into a friendly base (where my troops are sitting) and therefore a) hasn´t to shock attack and b) can teleport through my troops... LOL

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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37324 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1312

Defending force 44650 troops, 474 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 899



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/08/42

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 187
D3A Val x 41
B5N Kate x 96
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 124
Port hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet


to interdict sub evacuations I laid 2000 mines at Manila port with my MLs stationed at Bataan. Guess what we now spot at Manila. 2 sub TFs with reported 3 subs each. This is what I meant with saying that a dozen sub laid mines are 100 times more dangerous than 1000 ML laid mines. I encountered 3 times sub laid mines with my MLs (covered with MSWs) and 3 times I lost a ML. Hmm, bad luck. Speaking about probabilities it can´t be just bad luck if you lose 3 ships out of 3 encounters with A DOZEN (haha) mines but if you lay 2000 mines (by MLs) the subs are going in and out at will... [:D]

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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 57
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Division, at 47,29


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 22


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14306 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4022

Defending force 279343 troops, 1002 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8170



Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2100 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3502

Defending force 41298 troops, 423 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 728



Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5332 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3591

Defending force 37127 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 817



Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 77366 troops, 301 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4002

Defending force 147447 troops, 1022 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2305


Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37177 troops, 91 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1306

Defending force 44755 troops, 477 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 903


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

[ny59giants]

On the question of P-38's I get 1 squadron of them at the start of CHS using the F model (shorter range) and get 5 replacemnts and 25 production of them starting in 4/42. However, the G models come out in 10/42 with a production of 35. I guess Big B needs to answer how many P-38's are available that early in the war and if there are any in production.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

On the question of P-38's I get 1 squadron of them at the start of CHS using the F model (shorter range) and get 5 replacemnts and 25 production of them starting in 4/42. However, the G models come out in 10/42 with a production of 35. I guess Big B needs to answer how many P-38's are available that early in the war and if there are any in production.

From my game I had playing the Allied, I had two squadrons of P38 from the start (both at about 75%), getting 10 replacements a month IIRC. Though this was under 1.2. Think it´s pretty much the same under 1.31.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/09/42

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Naval bombardment of Amboina, at 39,73


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 7 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Myoko
CA Maya
CA Atago
CA Takao


Allied ground losses:
910 casualties reported
Guns lost 20
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 150
Port hits 1

We send in the bombardment group without the slow BBs as I fear to get spotted and have to face 100 Beaufort Vs out of Amboina which would torp and sink all my battlewaggons. They are not need anyway it seems and my CAs sprint in from a distance of 6 to Amboina. Now my BBs will join and I will do another one. Bombers are ordered to attack as well.

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 43
B-17E Fortress x 69


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 120

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 7000 feet

wow, the three remaining AA guns claim 2 Hudsons today...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 169
D3A Val x 58
B5N Kate x 96
G4M1 Betty x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 55
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 57
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 40
Port fuel hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 21st Division, at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 7
LB-30 Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 7 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
Liberator III x 3
LB-30 Liberator x 9
IL-4c x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 28


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 69th Division, at 32,29


Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 10
A-20B Boston x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
36 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

the Allied get perfectly dispersed ground attacks and disrupt several IJA divisions.

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Day Air attack on Medan , at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 46

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

Half of the bombers can´t find the target and hit rate is bad anyway. No Dutch patrol destroyed, they are now already at another airfield... will have to take those bases now...

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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 179394 troops, 1484 guns, 1288 vehicles, Assault Value = 3637

Defending force 37078 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 822

Japanese max assault: 2852 - adjusted assault: 3258

Allied max defense: 769 - adjusted defense: 1187

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3


Japanese ground losses:
2232 casualties reported
Guns lost 33
Vehicles lost 10

Allied ground losses:
561 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

my engineer units are having mostly disabled combat engineers, though the 2:1 kills another fort level... Allied losses are light this turn.

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Ground combat at 47,31

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22716 troops, 267 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 961

Defending force 8923 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 267



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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14290 troops, 462 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4022

Defending force 279508 troops, 1002 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8184



Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3034 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3596

Defending force 41141 troops, 414 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 725



Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 77517 troops, 301 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6125

Defending force 147417 troops, 1024 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2305


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 77517 troops, 301 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6125

Defending force 147417 troops, 1024 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 2305


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported


The Allied assault value advantage has gotten severe and I fear a Chinese attack every day. Have ordered some troops into Sian but I´m not having many more troops to fight against ALL Chinese LCUs that are not static. All in all I seem to be outnumbered in the whole Sian-Homan-area by around 2:1+.[:(]

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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37073 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1304

Defending force 44750 troops, 480 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 902



Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


All AKs have unloaded at Rangoon and my supply level is now at around 28.000.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/10/42

we´re hit hard this turn...[:(]

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 75
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24
A6M3 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 10 destroyed, 21 damaged

seeing this attack from Imphal I knew I will be facing a major attack this turn. B25s had very low morale and all that weren´t shot down turned back. Wonder why no P38s were on escort...


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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
A6M3 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 81
F-5A Lightning x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed, 33 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 37 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
440 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington III bombing at 12000 feet

Raid from Chandpur meets a not really disrupted CAP and this battle lasted an eternity. The Oscars only acted as targets, not able to take something down. Until this point it wasn´t so bad... Though this attack completely shredded the cap...


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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 35
Liberator III x 3
Hudson I x 9
B-17E Fortress x 44
LB-30 Liberator x 12
IL-4c x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed, 16 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 4 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 10 destroyed, 15 damaged
Liberator III: 3 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged
IL-4c: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
864 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 67

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x IL-4c bombing at 14000 feet

And of course the 4Es are coming in when the Cap is already the weakest possible. They are already hard enough to down, can´t I have the luck to face them first? No I face them when the CAP is already nearly useless compared to the beginning. [:(] This attack made Rangoon airfield looking like a crater landscape. Thought it would take more than 67 hits to heavily damage a level 7 airfield. Thought wrong... My Zeroes really suffered this turn again, as well as all the base forces at Rangoon - have around 15% troop disablements in all base forces there, while the AA regiments were even hit harder. Have transferred the last two reserve Zero daitais in which lost three planes because of the damaged airfield. Operable fighters at the moment around 80 (out of 180). Means with 90% Cap I expect to bring up perhaps 40-50 fighters.

Now the best news: Having Rangoon at a supply level over 20.000 last turn, the unbelievable bad, crap, not working supply system has decided that after such an attack Rangoon needs only 10.000 supplies...

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 56
Ki-49 Helen x 12
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

another time when most of my bombers can´t find the target. We still destroy a dozen planes at Amboina, the BBs will take position to bombard Amboina in two turns.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 198
D3A Val x 58
B5N Kate x 96
G4M1 Betty x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 130
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 57
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 35th Division, at 47,29


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 27


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 69th Division, at 32,29


Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 8
A-20B Boston x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,31

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 46803 troops, 633 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 963

Defending force 8983 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 267

Japanese max assault: 886 - adjusted assault: 456

Allied max defense: 268 - adjusted defense: 135

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
232 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Those Chinese units can´t have taken much destroyed sqads as the Allied ground loss points only went up 5 points this turn... [:(] So I wonder if they really lose 10%+ for a retreat.

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14344 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4020

Defending force 279752 troops, 1005 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8192



Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3020 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4140

Defending force 40983 troops, 410 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 716



Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Mandalay

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5305 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3503

Defending force 34289 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 737



Allied ground losses:
304 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

deliberate attack again next turn.

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 173999 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6544

Defending force 147421 troops, 1016 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 2305


Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

I really wonder why Helpless isn´t ordering an attack. I would expect to be driven out with the first attack. While I have nearly the same number of troops I don´t even have half of the Chinese assault value! [X(]

[castor troy]

To post a screenshot of what I´m talking about! The situation at Rangoon, with the Southern Area HQ, an air fleet HQ, dozens of ground units and nearly 200 planes. Nevertheless of having 28.000 supplies last turn the RIDICOULOS supply "system" transferres 18.000 supplies out again this turn (seems to Singapore where it isn´t needed but the supplies there went remarkable up this turn). The supply wasn´t destroyed by the air attack it was just moved out and there´s no reason to move it out. The Southern Area HQ alone should be enough to keep the most supply of the whole area at Rangoon!

MATRIX SHOULD ANNOUNCE THAT THERE´S NO WORKING SUPPLY "SYSTEM" DELIVERED WITH THIS "PRODUCT"!

Means I can´t get any replacements and that´s not just a little boo boo! It´s ABSOUTELY severe in this particular case and can completely ruin my Burma campaign. I had Rangoon out of supplies for weeks (while 100.000 supplies were lying around in this area at places without A SINLGE ground unit), then I ship supply in (which takes a week) and then I HAVE MORE THAN 20000 SUPPLIES FOR ONE OR TWO TURNS and the supply is transferred out again by this sh*t supply "system".

RIDICOULOS!!!





edit: oops, there were 85 hits on the airfield! [;)] Still not a bad damage...

[castor troy]

My frustration was raised a bit this turn.[:D] AVG equipped with P38s swept Rangoon today and shot down around 50 Zeroes (exp 75+) for the loss of 4 Lightnings. The date is 6/11/42. With the already perhaps 100-150 available P38s I would need "only" around 1500 Zeroes to take them all down in A2A! [:D]

I emailed my opponent:

Game over! I surrender… P38 in India in June 42?

got the answer:

Are you joking? This is lousy non-G variant. I'm getting them like 5 per month

and answered again [:D]:

Have you ever read the design notes of this mod before we started playing? I did a copy paste:

There are Two P-38F units at start in Los Angeles , these should be left

on the USA West Coast until Oct 1942.

I know, we don´t have a house rule that says "follow the design notes" but sorry, P38s ruling India-Burma in June 42? Would you employ also Corsairs in India if you would have them already?

I surrender! You win!


with the acception of the winner:

ok


so unfortunately I see this game as ended and may thank the readers for their interest! [&o] I will now wait for Brian to get 1.4 ready and will then try to find an Allied or Japanese opponent for a new game under 1.4. An AAR will follow also (if I will find an opponent) as it was fun to do the AAR!

Thanks
Chris

[ny59giants]

I'll be your Allied opponent if you want.
However, I will miss reading your AAR and your rants. [:D][:D]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I'll be your Allied opponent if you want.
However, I will miss reading your AAR and your rants. [:D][:D]

Seriously?

You would then get my rants exclusively by email! [:D][:D]

[Nikademus]

no more rants????!!!

[:D]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

no more rants????!!!

[:D]

I could cc you my emails to my new opponent in a new game if you want! [;)] And I will start another rant AAR... [:D]