AAR-The Italian Affair--Hoepner vs. mc3744

[Alikchi2]

Hopefully you can shift assets to the Baker Island area really quickly after Mouse Trap is done. Then you can strengthen your defences there. watch out for those B-17s though.. they can be murderous to your APs..

[Gen.Hoepner]

My worst nightmare became reality.
From Cooktown today 200 b-17s took off and annihilated my full-of-planes- Lae AF
57 planes were destroyed on the ground.
only 2 planes shot down by zeros and just 3 by flak.
At 5,000 fts those monsters are unstoppable.
Runaway at 73 damage. Moved back all the bombers at Rabaul and moved 2 more zero daitais. Hopefully tomorrow it's going to rain so i hope i'll have some time to recover the runaway. now 55 zeros should be on cap tomorrow...let's hope it's enough at least to cause some damage.....But Mouse Trap has not started with the best wishes[:(]
What if 200 heavy bombers get over my Fleet? Disaster..... but now i'm too far beyon the red line. Gotta go on and hope

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/42

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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9 where the hell are the other zeros!?!??!?!?!
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 12
B-17E Fortress x 173

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 12 destroyed, 24 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 11 destroyed, 35 damaged
G3M Nell: 15 destroyed, 21 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 20 destroyed, 9 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 7 destroyed, 24 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:

PM now will have some relief...and this is exactly what i do not what to let happen..

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[Gen.Hoepner]

Is there a way to stop 200 fortress in May 42 for Japan? Till now my zeros prooved not to be so effective against those monsters. And now my fears for the invasion fleet are growing up. 100/120 carrier based Zeros should always be on CAP above my ships, but if he brings his 2 CVs and if some more medium bombers will be in range from cooktown the danger i will have to face will be great.
Now he can obliterate Buna and Lae exactly like he did with Gili gili and close those bases.Without any close air support it's going to be damned hard to knock down PM.....
I gotta say that the temptation of halting operation Mouse Trap is deeply present in my mind, but I have just viewed what he can do with his unescorted bombers to my bases and i really cannot let PM grow up and ruin my days at Rabaul.
I know that when and if i'll take PM he will pound it to dust, but better PM or Lae than Rabaul.

Probably i'll begin to use some betties and nells from Rabaul in order to keep PM under pressure.

[mogami]

Hi, What size is airfield at Lae now?

[Gen.Hoepner]

Hi mogami

Lae it's been size 4 since a month, with 175 aviation support

[mogami]

Hi, And you said you had missing CAP? How many airfcraft were located at base before enemy strike and how many were set to CAP?

[Gen.Hoepner]

Was my mistake, i know. I had noticed Cooktown grown up to level 5 and thought " oh, that can be a problem" but did not do anything else except for putting my 27 zeros there on 80% cap ( less than 10 took off BTW) and for my 30 oscars only 40% cap....i should have transfered more zeros there, but i was just saving them at Rabaul in order to be able to transfer 3 fresh zero daitais when th invasion will be close to PM..... However 9 zeros out of 27 it's 33%...i was just hoping for something better. Now i'm sending as fast as i can some AA there, but the AF is already pretty damaged and cannot do nothing more than putting there 50 active zeros, hoping they can at least inflict some damage ( but if i was him, tomorrow i'll strike Buna and not Lae )

Any suggestion?[&o]

[Gen.Hoepner]

Fortune has turn her head away from the Empire.
Clouds all over south pacific but obviously not over Lae.
Another huge strike of fortresses and another plane grinder. No cap at all. The AF wasn't repaired during the night.100 planes destroyed on the ground with more than 40 zeros[:@]
What a bad day.
And to add another pain for the Empire, the convoys are messing up .
I really need something to boost my morale.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/08/42

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Night Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 23
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
Martin 139 x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
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Night Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 45
Hudson I x 16
IL-4c x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x IL-4c bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
16 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
8 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Night Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 19


No Allied losses

Resources hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
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Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 10
Beaufort I x 9
Beaufort V-IX x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
12 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 7000 feet
6 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Beaufort I bombing at 7000 feet
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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
Wirraway x 8
Buffalo I x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 36
SB-2c x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
6 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
14 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
14 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Fulmar bombing at 2000 feet
21 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on Lunga , at 67,97


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28


Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 12
Mohawk IV x 31
I-153c x 11


Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x I-153c bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Mohawk IV bombing at 2000 feet
14 x Mohawk IV bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Lysander I bombing at 2000 feet
2 x I-153c bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Mohawk IV bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Mohawk IV bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Lysander I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Bulla , at 40,75


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 59


No Allied losses

Resources hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 10
B-17E Fortress x 125

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 25 destroyed, 27 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 15 destroyed, 18 damaged
G3M Nell: 12 destroyed, 13 damaged
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 34 destroyed, 23 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

exactly 100 planes destroyed on the ground....

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 79

AF closed. No way to reopen it

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
7 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
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It's Mat 42 and the allied bombers are already ruling from Burma to south pacific...really depressing

[pauk]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Was my mistake, i know. I had noticed Cooktown grown up to level 5 and thought " oh, that can be a problem" but did not do anything else except for putting my 27 zeros there on 80% cap ( less than 10 took off BTW) and for my 30 oscars only 40% cap....i should have transfered more zeros there, but i was just saving them at Rabaul in order to be able to transfer 3 fresh zero daitais when th invasion will be close to PM..... However 9 zeros out of 27 it's 33%...i was just hoping for something better. Now i'm sending as fast as i can some AA there, but the AF is already pretty damaged and cannot do nothing more than putting there 50 active zeros, hoping they can at least inflict some damage ( but if i was him, tomorrow i'll strike Buna and not Lae )

Any suggestion?[&o]

i guess that Lae wasn't overload with ac (size 4 x 50 ac = 200 planes allowed without penalty)?

Do you have Air HQ located in the base? enough supplies? Otherwise, dont know....

[tsimmonds]

Any suggestion?

Sneak in some transports to get the remainder of your air units out. Once this starts there is no happy ending.

[Gen.Hoepner]

No Air HQ present. Not overloaded, but almost.
Yes irrilevant. i think i'll do exactly what you have suggested....
This is going to be the worst period for Japan since the beginning of the war....and nw i have also to think at Tarawa that risks to be isolated
[:o]

[Gen.Hoepner]

Another day of sadness. Another B-17 strike and more 65 planes destroyed on the ground. My entire Training Program has gone bitches and Lae is defenetly closed.No comming back.
Tried to catch his B-17 on the ground at night but my nells and betties from Rabaul did not find the target.
BTW quite happi that 12 B-17 were shot down by 9 zeros LRcapping from Rabaul...that's quite a good result!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/09/42


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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 10
B-17E Fortress x 120

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 28 destroyed, 30 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 8 destroyed, 16 damaged
H8K Emily: 8 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 4 damaged 2 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed, 25 damaged 10 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 134

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 5000 feet
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[AmiralLaurent]

Having an Air HQ is necessary in every base where you want to base more than 100 planes.

And having some transports standing next to big bases (that are under heavy range only, so don't apply to Lae) is allowing you to save airgroups from closed bases.

Also you have to send more fighters and less bombers in forward bases. 50 Zeroes will shot down a dozen B-17 (including damaged planes crashing on return) and reduce the effectiveness of the bombing.

[Gen.Hoepner]

Thanks admiral. Unlucky i've known it in the bad way[:(]

[Gen.Hoepner]

At Lae the last plane has been destroyed. a total of 241 planes in 4 days. One of the most terrible period for the Empire.
I tried to catch those b-17s on the ground at night, but my brave bombers did not achieve any result....really really depressing.

The HUGE armada in the meanwhile has bypassed Rabaul. Now, with a lot of problems, it's heading towards Gili Gili Cape. 40% CAP for the moment over my ships. Every day this % will be slightly encreased

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/10/42

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Night Air attack on Cooktown , at 48,98

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 8000 feet
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 7000 feet

NOT A SINGLE PLANE DESTROYED?!?!?!?! THERE MUST BE AT LEAST 200 B-17 THERE.....[:@][:@][:@]
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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 106

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 10 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 131

Aircraft Attacking:

As usual...a massacre
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[Gen.Hoepner]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/11/42


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NIGHTS ATTACK ALL OVER BURMA( Rangoon,Pagan,Mandalay,Lashio )
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JAPANESE DAY AIR ATTACKS OVER CHUNGKING
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Day Air attack on Buna , at 55,90


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 44


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:

Not enough recon and most of the bombers did not find their target. Tomorrow every single zero i have at Rabaul will LRCAP BUNA, while my bombers will hit PM again
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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 276135 troops, 3306 guns, 26 vehicles

Defending force 119292 troops, 766 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Still waiting for the engeneers....

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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31677 troops, 168 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 17024 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
252 casualties reported

Those bastard chinese partisan never retreat from my cities even when they keep losing every single battle, day by day
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Ground combat at 42,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8851 troops, 146 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10802 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Same here.....i hate china

The Mouse Trap Fleet has so many problems in moving...15 different convoys are a pain to keep united in the same hex...

[mogami]

Hi, If you bomb Cooktown while the B-17 are over Lae you will not destroy any of them (except for damaged ones left behind.)
Also you need to fly recon for a while before sending bombers or they will miss they might even be unable to find the target.

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, If you bomb Cooktown while the B-17 are over Lae you will not destroy any of them (except for damaged ones left behind.)
Also you need to fly recon for a while before sending bombers or they will miss they might even be unable to find the target.

Hi mogami,

No, the b-17s ply at daytime, while i launched my planes during nighttime. I know abaut the lack of recon....just had not anything that go that far execpt for bombers. BTW wanted to be a dimostrative action. At least i hoped in something like 1/2 b-17 destroyed and some more damaged.....

[mogami]

Hi, Mele Del Cavallo.
OK then I guess I should have noticed that minor detail huh?

Send the BB!!! Collect all the Emily!!!! Send in the "Dash Forward"

run away [X(]

[Gen.Hoepner]

At the moment, with my PM invasion fleet approaching Gili gili, my choice is going for PM, in order to halt him from building up forts.
My betties and Nells did a good job today but my recon says that runaway has already been brought back to 15 damage:-(
My opponent admitted that he's setting up a counteroffensive somewhere. My weakest point are at the moment: The Bali-Kendari-ambonia triangle, the Marcus-Saipan-Kwalajein zone and the Tarawa area. My entire fleet is busy with Mouse Trap and after that my major ships will need at least 2 months of R&R...so it's going to be a tough summer[:(]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/12/42

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Night Air attack on BURMA.....same old story...every single night

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

100 bombers every day hit the AF and the troops there....
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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28


Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 15
Mohawk IV x 32
I-153c x 31


Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:

While he began to train his units during daytime
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 32
G4M1 Betty x 101

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Catalina I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 89

Aircraft Attacking:

lost 5 betties ( 3 op. losses and 2 flak ), but the raid can be considered a good one

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 276477 troops, 3315 guns, 26 vehicles

Defending force 119518 troops, 767 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported

in 2 days the engeeners will be available...tomorrow some troops will attack to test the walls


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Ground combat at 41,32

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8318 troops, 118 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4322 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Partisans tried to cut my supply lines for the troops that are sieging Chunking

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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31382 troops, 165 guns, 1 vehicles

Defending force 16694 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
197 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
355 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

While these partisans NEVER retreat!
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Ground combat at 42,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8754 troops, 140 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10538 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

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The VP situation.
As you can see the numbers for planes are really bad for Japanese, and these results are costing me the 4-1 goal