8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

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It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

INDEED.


Um, I am betting it is a cause celebre and a designer's "tool"....
I would disregard it as it is not really germaine to a land combat game in 99.9999999999% of cases.....
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Yes your right ofcourse but wouldn't it be fun to kill a Sherman with a torpedo[8D]
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Yes your right ofcourse but wouldn't it be fun to kill a Sherman with a torpedo[8D]

Sherman at angle 32, range 500
Fire 1.
Fire 2.
Take us down to 300 feet[8D]
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Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?
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Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?

We can´t have that tone on this board my good man[;)]
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Now this is really getting of topic, but is there a game for sea combat that set up like Steel Panthers ?
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Now this is really getting of topic, but is there a game for sea combat that set up like Steel Panthers ?



um, no....the closest would be harpoon 4 unless I miss my guess....
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But is seem it could be done, just don't know if there would be a market.
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This is still in the OOBs, classed as an LCS. A naval unit, in case you didn't notice. It's a scenario design tool. You guys DO support new scenarios being developed, don't you?
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It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

INDEED.


Um, I am betting it is a cause celebre and a designer's "tool"....
I would disregard it as it is not really germaine to a land combat game in 99.9999999999% of cases.....
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Yes I do support it, and I am not making fun just trying to figure out how to use it. Ease up a little ther big fellow I like everybody[:D]
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Man, text communication isn't a good replacement for face to face discussion eh? Touchy touchy everybody. Isn't ok if people complain? The key for me has always been to LET THEM.

Anyways, forum administrators shouldn't get in drawn out discussions about these kinds of things. If Harlekwin, Keke, and Rune have crossed the line then do whatever enforcement is the policy of the forum. If they have not, then who cares. The forum is providing part of it's service, and that is a place for people to register concerns. We're all allowed to have opinions on what the best way to voice those concerns are, but to each his own really. UNLESS they have crossed the line, of course, then you enforce the forum policies. It is simple, and it must stay simple or things get ugly. It looks like this is turning into a test of power, and that is going to look bad no matter how it turns out. Keke, Rune, and Sven seem to be disenfranchised to the point of not caring if you ban them, that sucks.

This thread doesn't have ANYTHING to do with OOBs anymore... Some of us need to realise the people working on the oobs are the people working on the oobs. It is their perogative to ignore us, that certainly sucks for us... and perhaps there is a reasonable argument that it sucks in general, but that's all it is... an argument. People gotta calm the hell down and get back to the enjoyable part of this sh t. Folks on our side should just sit on it for now and wait for 8.2 and then start up a non-crazed dialog regarding the oobs. I know from being on the development side of things that strong opposition tends to force the designers to defend their decisions too much... and that results in spending more time rationalizing and not enough on questioning.

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Kevin, my friend, did you forget that in amphibious assault missions you can purchase destroyers, rocket ships, cruisers and battleships as off-board fire support?
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Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?
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Kevin, my friend, did you forget that in amphibious assault missions you can purchase destroyers, rocket ships, cruisers and battleships as off-board fire support?
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Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?


The sub is of course "off board" with torpedoes?
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This is still in the OOBs, classed as an LCS. A naval unit, in case you didn't notice. It's a scenario design tool. You guys DO support new scenarios being developed, don't you?
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It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

INDEED.


Um, I am betting it is a cause celebre and a designer's "tool"....
I would disregard it as it is not really germaine to a land combat game in 99.9999999999% of cases.....



absolutely....I wholeheartedly think it is a very good use of the premium space in the OOBs.
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It's a LARGE Torpedo LOL

But seriously, I could see a very large map were your landing force gets harrased by a sub, I played a game against Bernie where there was a large river running through the middle of the map and we both had Gunboats battleing each other. As well as fighting tanks.[&o]
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It's a LARGE Torpedo LOL

But seriously, I could see a very large map were your landing force gets harrased by a sub, I played a game against Bernie where there was a large river running through the middle of the map and we both had Gunboats battleing each other. As well as fighting tanks.[&o]

What happens when the sub starts launching torpedoes against your units on dry land [;)]
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It's a LARGE Torpedo LOL

But seriously, I could see a very large map were your landing force gets harrased by a sub, I played a game against Bernie where there was a large river running through the middle of the map and we both had Gunboats battleing each other. As well as fighting tanks.[&o]


well we better add a Destroyer to interdict them....

I will research whether or not subs ever sank an amphib assault during landing....


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Tomo, you have hit the nail on the head. Not only forum administrators but the top man, Dave Heath, have gotten drawn into this. Steps have been taken to address the problems, but apparently more drastic action will have to be taken. It will be done. Enough is enough. The perps have been identified, and they will be the first to respond, or else they will just shut up and let us go about our business. To the troublemakers-- this is your final public warning. Any more spamming or trolling will result in your banning from the Matrix forums. If this is done, and you come back under a different name, I will simply delete your posts. This crap has to stop, now.
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Man, text communication isn't a good replacement for face to face discussion eh? Touchy touchy everybody. Isn't ok if people complain? The key for me has always been to LET THEM.

Anyways, forum administrators shouldn't get in drawn out discussions about these kinds of things. If Harlekwin, Keke, and Rune have crossed the line then do whatever enforcement is the policy of the forum. If they have not, then who cares. The forum is providing part of it's service, and that is a place for people to register concerns. We're all allowed to have opinions on what the best way to voice those concerns are, but to each his own really. UNLESS they have crossed the line, of course, then you enforce the forum policies. It is simple, and it must stay simple or things get ugly. It looks like this is turning into a test of power, and that is going to look bad no matter how it turns out. Keke, Rune, and Sven seem to be disenfranchised to the point of not caring if you ban them, that sucks.

This thread doesn't have ANYTHING to do with OOBs anymore... Some of us need to realise the people working on the oobs are the people working on the oobs. It is their perogative to ignore us, that certainly sucks for us... and perhaps there is a reasonable argument that it sucks in general, but that's all it is... an argument. People gotta calm the hell down and get back to the enjoyable part of this sh t. Folks on our side should just sit on it for now and wait for 8.2 and then start up a non-crazed dialog regarding the oobs. I know from being on the development side of things that strong opposition tends to force the designers to defend their decisions too much... and that results in spending more time rationalizing and not enough on questioning.

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Tomo, you have hit the nail on the head. Not only forum administrators but the top man, Dave Heath, have gotten drawn into this. Steps have been taken to address the problems, but apparently more drastic action will have to be taken. It will be done. Enough is enough. The perps have been identified, and they will be the first to respond, or else they will just shut up and let us go about our business. To the troublemakers-- this is your final public warning. Any more spamming or trolling will result in your banning from the Matrix forums. If this is done, and you come back under a different name, I will simply delete your posts. This crap has to stop, now.
ORIGINAL: Tombstone

Man, text communication isn't a good replacement for face to face discussion eh? Touchy touchy everybody. Isn't ok if people complain? The key for me has always been to LET THEM.

Anyways, forum administrators shouldn't get in drawn out discussions about these kinds of things. If Harlekwin, Keke, and Rune have crossed the line then do whatever enforcement is the policy of the forum. If they have not, then who cares. The forum is providing part of it's service, and that is a place for people to register concerns. We're all allowed to have opinions on what the best way to voice those concerns are, but to each his own really. UNLESS they have crossed the line, of course, then you enforce the forum policies. It is simple, and it must stay simple or things get ugly. It looks like this is turning into a test of power, and that is going to look bad no matter how it turns out. Keke, Rune, and Sven seem to be disenfranchised to the point of not caring if you ban them, that sucks.

This thread doesn't have ANYTHING to do with OOBs anymore... Some of us need to realise the people working on the oobs are the people working on the oobs. It is their perogative to ignore us, that certainly sucks for us... and perhaps there is a reasonable argument that it sucks in general, but that's all it is... an argument. People gotta calm the hell down and get back to the enjoyable part of this sh t. Folks on our side should just sit on it for now and wait for 8.2 and then start up a non-crazed dialog regarding the oobs. I know from being on the development side of things that strong opposition tends to force the designers to defend their decisions too much... and that results in spending more time rationalizing and not enough on questioning.

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KG you can delete away. There is dissent in both the methodology and the modeling of the OOBs I have done my best to stifle whomever I can influence. You are OBVIOUSLY implying that someone has "gone over the line" as regards I would imagine what now the "submarines"?

Okay, fine now the Subs, the LMGs, heck everything is off-limits. Not a problem. It is a pity we did not have you as a mod when we were being flamed for trying to hammer out consistency years ago.


I take it by your tenor that you do NOT want me to research whether or not amphib craft were ever interdicted actively by a submarine during a landing phase? Okay I will also not use my google or lexis/nexis. I am a company man.

I want you guys to hurry up and publish the magic.

Do what you need to do I have been quite tame of late all things being equal and if David has told you to lop off heads then do what you have to do.....

If not I will be PMing him a message asking what exactly he has said to you that runs counter to what he has said to me.

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