8.0 Corrections/Suggestions

[KG Erwin]

Guys, since my old sticky post on Corrections/Suggestions got hosed, I'd like for you to post comments on this new thread. The team is progressing ahead of schedule, we're testing the new OOBs, and we'll also be checking into correcting/replacing/creating LBMs for the previous incorrect ones. What was intended to be a minor tune-up has morphed into a major overhaul. I regret that the previous thread was lost, but we had already taken many notations from the old postings, so, to the gamers who contributed to this, your ideas have not been forgotten.
Glenn Higginbotham, OOB Team Member

[Cirrus]

I think new sticky thread here would in place also. There is already few intresting issues going on in their own threads. Would be easier to follow the OOB discusion if you'd open sticky for that.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Here are a few things I found while making my own Icon Bible when the Forum was down;

Italian; The SMV M43 75/46 has wrong Icon. Shows M12 Sym 555. Should be Sym 286.

Russian; The T18 has wrong LBM---shows T27. Ant FT17 Pic would be a better alternative.

Yugoslavia; Gaz-FO Icon is wrong, Sym 873. Should be Sym 853.

Japan; The unit called "Transport" shows big green OLD tank dozer hull. A Dihatsu barge would work nicely here.

Nationalist China; VCL MKVI shows French UE Sym 703. Should be Belgian vehicle Sym 168.
Carrier B, wrong Icon should be 506.

Nationalist Spain; SdKfz 10/4 has 150mm mortar for its main gun!!![X(]
AAMG section armed with 7.92mm MG 34 AAMG has wrong LBM, shoes US water cooled 50cal AAMG

Czecoslovokia; Humber Scout Car should be Sym 898.
Wrong Icon for P-11, shows PZ II Lynx.

British; Mustang III has Nationalist China markings?

Hungary; S1A1 SM75 Cargo Plane has wrong LBM, shows US Halftrack.

Bulgaria; Renault R-35 should be Sym 216.

Belgium; Camion 75mm DCA has wrong LBM, shows aircraft.

Anzac; Black Prince has wrong Sym, should be Sym 890.

There may be others but these are the ones I noticed off hand. Hope this can be helpfull[;)]

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Now with all this crap that has befallen us and the changes in this Forum, how will it be possible to post New Icons or anything else for that matter? I have virtually tracked down almost every Icon in the SHP files. My intention was to create a Spread Sheet and post it here. But now I dont see how this will be possible. Any suggestions?[&:]

[KG Erwin]

Kevin, the only thing I can tell you is that http://spwaw.com has an area for attaching graphics files. This isn't shameless promotion, but a workaround until Matrix gets everything back in order. My mod privileges were erased, so I'm just thankful I'm able to log on with no problem. I'm not going to bombard David or Shaun with requests at this time.

[Voriax]

Kevin, the 'reply to message' window has 'click here to upload' option...just below the message box. Doesn't that work?

Voriax

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Voriax,

Yes. But it only supports gif/txt/and jpg. In any case how would any of these formats be accessable to others to download? Especially a spread sheet?[&:]

KG Erwin,

So at some time in the future Matrix will allow ZIP files to be posted? I hope so. I took the time to update all my security programs after this last fiasco and will be sure to update and then scan all submissions in the future before I send them to anyone!!

Hackers suck! I hope they hang this jerk!![:@][:@]

[Voriax]

Ok, but you could zip your spreadsheet, change extension to .txt and post it. Just tell that after downloading change the extenzion back to zip. But..200k limit...
Hopefully this will change soon.

Voriax

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Thank you!![:)] I'll give it a try!! Now I just have to type the thing up!! The way I type it could take a day or three!!!![X(]

[panda124c]

SdKdz 250/9 crew 4 carrying capacity 5; I don't think so. A capacity of 2 at max. Reason 250/1 crew 2 carrying capacity 4, add a 20 mm turrent with a crew of 2 bring capanity to a max of 2 if that many.

[Warrior2]

Probably already noticed, but in Nov '44, the US Army armor purchase menu has duplicate Wolverines & Hellcats. Only difference I can see is the price.

[Frank W.]

ORIGINAL: Warrior

Probably already noticed, but in Nov '44, the US Army armor purchase menu has duplicate Wolverines & Hellcats. Only difference I can see is the price.

the more expensive ones have APCR ammo !

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Cirrus

I think new sticky thread here would in place also. There is already few intresting issues going on in their own threads. Would be easier to follow the OOB discusion if you'd open sticky for that.

David has asked me to stay on as a moderator, so once I get my mod privileges restored, I'll make this a sticky.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Icons for Italian SMVs Should be as follows;
SMV M43 75/34------SYM-----285

SMV M43 75/46------SYM-----286---Wrong Icon in Italian OOB

SMV M43 105/25-----SYM-----593---Correct in Italian OOB Wrong in Cz/Ger

That is all.

[panda124c]

Not to worry I always talk to myself that way I never loose and argument. [:D]
The 250/11 with the 28/20 MM gun has HE AP and APCR. Now I don't object to the AP or the APCR but the HE is totaly wrong this gun never ever used HE the AP is qustionable depending on how you define the round. This is akin to giving the British 2 pounder an HE capacity. The towed version of this gun only has APCR.

[FlashfyreSP]

US Army Combat Group problem:
Up til December 1942, the Combat Group comes with a command tank as the company commander unit. From January 1943 until January 1944, there is NO command tank assigned. The Combat Group is commanded by the scout car section.....[X(]

In February 1944, command tanks are once again available.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

pbear,

The AP is wrong!

You know about the tungsten round.

2.8cm Sprgr patr 41: Fused AZ 5072. projectile weight. 85gm(3.00oz), compleat round weight 577gm(20.35oz/1.27lb)

"This was a high explosive shell round. The projectile was machined from a steel bar to give a tubular body with sloping flanges, the front flange being pierced. The bursting charge was a pellet of PETN/wax weighing 5gm(0.18oz/77.1gr) and the shell was fitted with a percussion fuse. The propelling charge was 150gm(5.29oz) of Nz R P. The Ballistics of this round were the same as those of the piercing projectile, the maximum engagement range still being 800m(875yd)."

German Artillery of World War Two

Ian V. Hogg

A German 20mm projectile weighed 305gm(10.76oz) almost 4 times as much![X(]
But as small as it was it did exist!

How about 20mmPzgr Patr 40 ?
PEN at 100m--------40mm at 0 slope (tungsten round)

Same book!![:)]

[Frank W.]

in H2H the 28mm has only APCR rounds seems right this way.

also i would question the tungsten round loadout´s of
later war or even middle war german guns, AFAIK the germans
didn´t produce them any mor ein great numbers because of
severe shortages. i read somewhere that only selected tanks/
guns which were to expected to encounter russian heavies
as IS1 or IS2 got a few round in 44/45.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

British 2 Pounder towed guns DID have HE rounds issued. The tank guns were only issued AP Shot.[;)]

[panda124c]

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

pbear,

The AP is wrong!

You know about the tungsten round.

2.8cm Sprgr patr 41: Fused AZ 5072. projectile weight. 85gm(3.00oz), compleat round weight 577gm(20.35oz/1.27lb)

"This was a high explosive shell round. The projectile was machined from a steel bar to give a tubular body with sloping flanges, the front flange being pierced. The bursting charge was a pellet of PETN/wax weighing 5gm(0.18oz/77.1gr) and the shell was fitted with a percussion fuse. The propelling charge was 150gm(5.29oz) of Nz R P. The Ballistics of this round were the same as those of the piercing projectile, the maximum engagement range still being 800m(875yd)."

German Artillery of World War Two

Ian V. Hogg

A German 20mm projectile weighed 305gm(10.76oz) almost 4 times as much![X(]
But as small as it was it did exist!

How about 20mmPzgr Patr 40 ?
PEN at 100m--------40mm at 0 slope (tungsten round)

Same book!![:)]

Learn something new every day. Could not have been very effective. So I guess I can continue to beat up Russian Infantry with the 28/20mm HE round without feeling guilty.