Hi medck,
Thanks for your input. [:)]
The fighting is not yet around Darwin, is around Daly.
I cannot reach Darwin by air unless I capture Daly first.
IMHO there's no way the Allies can do any amph assault in the summer of '42. I'd be slaughtered by land and carriers based air force.
I'm thinking however of taking Exmouth back, I'm moving some troops to Perth for that purpose. From Exmouth I could bomb the Western ports and - maybe - think of moving a bit closer to Darwin along the North coast, but the risk is VERY high.
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RE: Summer '42
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More bugs?
Beside the sh#tty weather in Burma and the fact that my heavies in Alice refuse to fly ground attack missions, despite full supplies, Air HQ, high experience, 250+ air support, low fatigue, ... [:@][:@]
There are some problems.
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All the units but one have crossed the river North of Mandalay. I sure hope the last one will next turn, it's an INF division, it kind of makes the difference!
Medium
Australia. The two units following the Australian Division are now in the hex NW of Daly ... the Australian Division is not!!! [:@]
It should be there next turn, but what's the point in following if they get there first?!?! [:-]
I left it to GH decision what to do, but this movement system really sucks.
Big
Three CVs show their F4F-4 squadrons as (36) planes squadrons. Yet only one has received replacements. The other two squadrons stayed at (27), despite being shown as (36)?!?!
Before you ask. They are all in the same port (PH), there are 200k+ supplies, replacements are set to on.
Anybody any idea? [&:]
There are some problems.
Small
All the units but one have crossed the river North of Mandalay. I sure hope the last one will next turn, it's an INF division, it kind of makes the difference!
Medium
Australia. The two units following the Australian Division are now in the hex NW of Daly ... the Australian Division is not!!! [:@]
It should be there next turn, but what's the point in following if they get there first?!?! [:-]
I left it to GH decision what to do, but this movement system really sucks.
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Three CVs show their F4F-4 squadrons as (36) planes squadrons. Yet only one has received replacements. The other two squadrons stayed at (27), despite being shown as (36)?!?!
Before you ask. They are all in the same port (PH), there are 200k+ supplies, replacements are set to on.
Anybody any idea? [&:]
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RE: More bugs?
Hi MC,
Just a thought. I believe that if the movement (follow) command for those units was initiated under 1.6 rather than 1.602 then 1.6 rules apply and they may arrive at different rates.
Little consolation I know my friend but at least you know that now the follow command should work as advertised in future orders.
Steven
Just a thought. I believe that if the movement (follow) command for those units was initiated under 1.6 rather than 1.602 then 1.6 rules apply and they may arrive at different rates.
Little consolation I know my friend but at least you know that now the follow command should work as advertised in future orders.
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Just before going to sleep.
The Burma offensive is over. The two days before the attack not one bomber took off.
In Australia I keep being pounded by his bombers from Darwin but my 250 heavies refuse categorically to take off.
I just can't get air support.
Right now I'm tired, I'll think about it tomorrow.
Anyway I guess everything is postponed by at least two months. I must be able to attack without air support in Australia since I can't get the bombers to fly.
Burma is ok, I drew there more forces and I'm satisfied, I'll now switch part of the air war focus to China.
Australia sucks, I should be able to use those bombers, four days in a row sitting on their a#rses [:-]
The Burma offensive is over. The two days before the attack not one bomber took off.
In Australia I keep being pounded by his bombers from Darwin but my 250 heavies refuse categorically to take off.
I just can't get air support.
Right now I'm tired, I'll think about it tomorrow.
Anyway I guess everything is postponed by at least two months. I must be able to attack without air support in Australia since I can't get the bombers to fly.
Burma is ok, I drew there more forces and I'm satisfied, I'll now switch part of the air war focus to China.
Australia sucks, I should be able to use those bombers, four days in a row sitting on their a#rses [:-]
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RE: More bugs?
For your CV squadrons try to put them on the airfield and fly 100% CAP they will probably receive new AC and pilots.
Summer '42
July 5th, 1942
Time for a strategic re-evaluation.
INDIA-BURMA
The Northern offensive has been pushed back. One missing infantry division and the bad weather in the days proceeding the attack have definitely not helped. But bad luck is part of the game.
The original goal has been achieved, more Japanese troops have been assigned to the Burma theatre. I’m now retreating to recover those units, but it’ll take a month and GH will have to cover the possible advance routes for all that time.
I’ll soon switch the air force towards China. One more squadron has reached (80) exp and has been upgraded to Hurricane’s (16).
A few more days and we’ll start beating each other up in the Chinese skies.
The heavies scored some nice hits bombing Moulmein.
Ledo will soon be size (5) – I was wrong in a previous posting – and from there and Kunming I’ll start coming back to China.
The main goal for the RAF will be to shoot down as many enemy bombers as possible and to try to defend Kunming from the incoming ground attack. The infantry divisions there are in a really bad shape.
CHINA
Chungking will probably hold on for quite a long time, supplies slowly grow as well as in Lanchow and Sining. Changsha is in a worse situation.
What really worries me is Kunming. I can only airlift supplies there and to do that I need to control the sky, that’s why I’m going back to China with the RAF.
I’ll soon loose many cut out units and Ichang. But there’s nothing I can do about it.
However the VPs situation is such that it’s going to be real difficult for the Japs to achieve the 4:1, I’m approaching 7.000 VPs and by the time he gets to 28.000 I’ll probably be at 8.000. Even loosing Chungking I should be able to avoid the 4:1.
Air battles are my trump card. True, the air supremacy over China is what lead him to winning, but the price he has paid in ops losses is eventually outgrowing the gains.
AUSTRALIA
Here’s where things have gone worse than expected.
Two main reasons for that.
1) He has more troops than I thought. I counted 5-6 divisions plus mixed brigades and support units. Definitely too much for what I have available so far.
2) My heavies do not fly ground attack missions from Alice. While his bombers do. That has seriously tilted the balance.
I obviously need to work out an alternative strategy. Hence my new plan.
I’ll retreat the units attacking Daly by a few hexes, just to get out of Sally’s range and to avoid any potential surrounding move. But they’ll be there for him to see and fear. I must keep all those Jap troops engaged.
I’m moving naval assets, air assets and ground units to Perth. Marine raiders, Marine paratroopers, 1st Marine Division, Base forces, the works.
I’m also moving the Lexington, Saratoga and Yorktown, together with the BBs California, Colorado and North Carolina to Western Australia. By the time they get there they’ll be fully loaded with Avenger’s.
I need to try to get into air range of Darwin, hence I need the bases in the North West.
The first step will be Exmouth, already at size (4).
The problem is that he will be expecting some form of attack on Exmouth, therefore I must make him believe that I won’t go in strong. He must think that he’ll be facing a probe, not a full scale attack. Otherwise he would commit the DS and I’m toast.
I’m going to move the ‘Australian’ carriers with DB’s and TB’s on training. To avoid showing them to the subs.
Once I’m close with the ‘Australian’ group I’ll send out the other (3) CV’s - together with the CVE - with all the DB’s and TB’s on ASW, to make sure he sees them going towards Wake. Some empty transports should do the trick.
A couple of days later I move a landing TF towards Exmouth and I pray he comes for it with a baby KB, which I’ll try to engage and sink (I know, it’s a long shot) with my (3) carriers. Or – maybe – he’ll just let me take Exmouth, nice and easy.
Planning beyond that doesn’t make sense right now. But the idea is to continue somehow from there to Derby.
PACIFIC
CV’s air squadrons are now ok.
Here’s where I have the biggest doubts. I’m sure he doesn’t have many ground units in the Pacific. I’ve seen too many in Australia, China and Burma. Still he has air superiority and the carriers.
I believe I have to find a way to keep him ‘entertained’ here too. But anything that comes to mind sounds dangerous points wise. We’ll see.
Bottom line.
Priorities for ’42 are: 1) avoid auto victory, which looks doable; 2) stop any further expansion, possibly in China too, doable as well (but for China); 3) retake something back, much less likely.
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The situation today
Time for a strategic re-evaluation.
INDIA-BURMA
The Northern offensive has been pushed back. One missing infantry division and the bad weather in the days proceeding the attack have definitely not helped. But bad luck is part of the game.
The original goal has been achieved, more Japanese troops have been assigned to the Burma theatre. I’m now retreating to recover those units, but it’ll take a month and GH will have to cover the possible advance routes for all that time.
I’ll soon switch the air force towards China. One more squadron has reached (80) exp and has been upgraded to Hurricane’s (16).
A few more days and we’ll start beating each other up in the Chinese skies.
The heavies scored some nice hits bombing Moulmein.
Ledo will soon be size (5) – I was wrong in a previous posting – and from there and Kunming I’ll start coming back to China.
The main goal for the RAF will be to shoot down as many enemy bombers as possible and to try to defend Kunming from the incoming ground attack. The infantry divisions there are in a really bad shape.
CHINA
Chungking will probably hold on for quite a long time, supplies slowly grow as well as in Lanchow and Sining. Changsha is in a worse situation.
What really worries me is Kunming. I can only airlift supplies there and to do that I need to control the sky, that’s why I’m going back to China with the RAF.
I’ll soon loose many cut out units and Ichang. But there’s nothing I can do about it.
However the VPs situation is such that it’s going to be real difficult for the Japs to achieve the 4:1, I’m approaching 7.000 VPs and by the time he gets to 28.000 I’ll probably be at 8.000. Even loosing Chungking I should be able to avoid the 4:1.
Air battles are my trump card. True, the air supremacy over China is what lead him to winning, but the price he has paid in ops losses is eventually outgrowing the gains.
AUSTRALIA
Here’s where things have gone worse than expected.
Two main reasons for that.
1) He has more troops than I thought. I counted 5-6 divisions plus mixed brigades and support units. Definitely too much for what I have available so far.
2) My heavies do not fly ground attack missions from Alice. While his bombers do. That has seriously tilted the balance.
I obviously need to work out an alternative strategy. Hence my new plan.
I’ll retreat the units attacking Daly by a few hexes, just to get out of Sally’s range and to avoid any potential surrounding move. But they’ll be there for him to see and fear. I must keep all those Jap troops engaged.
I’m moving naval assets, air assets and ground units to Perth. Marine raiders, Marine paratroopers, 1st Marine Division, Base forces, the works.
I’m also moving the Lexington, Saratoga and Yorktown, together with the BBs California, Colorado and North Carolina to Western Australia. By the time they get there they’ll be fully loaded with Avenger’s.
I need to try to get into air range of Darwin, hence I need the bases in the North West.
The first step will be Exmouth, already at size (4).
The problem is that he will be expecting some form of attack on Exmouth, therefore I must make him believe that I won’t go in strong. He must think that he’ll be facing a probe, not a full scale attack. Otherwise he would commit the DS and I’m toast.
I’m going to move the ‘Australian’ carriers with DB’s and TB’s on training. To avoid showing them to the subs.
Once I’m close with the ‘Australian’ group I’ll send out the other (3) CV’s - together with the CVE - with all the DB’s and TB’s on ASW, to make sure he sees them going towards Wake. Some empty transports should do the trick.
A couple of days later I move a landing TF towards Exmouth and I pray he comes for it with a baby KB, which I’ll try to engage and sink (I know, it’s a long shot) with my (3) carriers. Or – maybe – he’ll just let me take Exmouth, nice and easy.
Planning beyond that doesn’t make sense right now. But the idea is to continue somehow from there to Derby.
PACIFIC
CV’s air squadrons are now ok.
Here’s where I have the biggest doubts. I’m sure he doesn’t have many ground units in the Pacific. I’ve seen too many in Australia, China and Burma. Still he has air superiority and the carriers.
I believe I have to find a way to keep him ‘entertained’ here too. But anything that comes to mind sounds dangerous points wise. We’ll see.
Bottom line.
Priorities for ’42 are: 1) avoid auto victory, which looks doable; 2) stop any further expansion, possibly in China too, doable as well (but for China); 3) retake something back, much less likely.
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RE: Summer '42
ORIGINAL: mc3744
July 5th, 1942
Time for a strategic re-evaluation.
Bottom line.
Priorities for ’42 are: 1) avoid auto victory, which looks doable; 2) stop any further expansion, possibly in China too, doable as well (but for China); 3) retake something back, much less likely.
I'm not sure why you're in such a rush for retaking something other than for psychological reasons. His expansion has clearly been halted (except for China) and you look certain to avoid auto-victory. You've preserved a strong naval presence and your strategy for Exmouth seems sound. If you were to delay it, say, a month would you have more troops to commit to it? If not, then striking now would be fine -- or finding alternative targets.
My advice would be the Exmouth route with an eye to getting strong enough to move on Darwin and capture his entire expeditionary force. It's a shame you've been repulsed, but attracting so many of his divisions to Australia means they aren't garrisoning Pacific islands, invading India/defending Burma or threatening China. He isn't gaining any more VPs than he had in Australia anyways, so I think you've done well there.
Also, it won't be long before it will become quite difficult for him to extract those units from Australia. You should be able to severely punish any transports taking them out and if he can't get them out that's mega-VPs for you once you capture them in 1943. [:D]
You had really bad luck in Burma, I thought you had a great plan there and it should have worked but for the glitches. I suppose you can bomb him to rubble for awhile and use the spare RAF fighters to defend China. Not too bad -- not as good as opening a land route to China, but not bad.
RE: Summer '42
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I'm not sure why you're in such a rush for retaking something other than for psychological reasons. His expansion has clearly been halted (except for China) and you look certain to avoid auto-victory.
You are quite right on this. I'm kind of tired of being beaten. I'm an Allied fanboy. I've been playing WitP for over a year and I haven't gotten past September '42. I REALLY need to kick ass [;)]
ORIGINAL: medck
You've preserved a strong naval presence and your strategy for Exmouth seems sound. If you were to delay it, say, a month would you have more troops to commit to it? If not, then striking now would be fine -- or finding alternative targets.
I'm going to have to wait a month or two anyway. I'm still moving troops and equipment. They are already on their way but it'll take a while.
ORIGINAL: medck
My advice would be the Exmouth route with an eye to getting strong enough to move on Darwin and capture his entire expeditionary force. It's a shame you've been repulsed, but attracting so many of his divisions to Australia means they aren't garrisoning Pacific islands, invading India/defending Burma or threatening China. He isn't gaining any more VPs than he had in Australia anyways, so I think you've done well there.
Also, it won't be long before it will become quite difficult for him to extract those units from Australia. You should be able to severely punish any transports taking them out and if he can't get them out that's mega-VPs for you once you capture them in 1943. [:D]
You had really bad luck in Burma, I thought you had a great plan there and it should have worked but for the glitches. I suppose you can bomb him to rubble for awhile and use the spare RAF fighters to defend China. Not too bad -- not as good as opening a land route to China, but not bad.
Thanks for the "great plan" [:)]
Not so great after all, but spring/summer '42 are not exactly the best time for the Bristish forces [;)]
And GH is really tough, no doubt on that.
It is a good point indeed the one on what little else he has to gain in Australia. I'm actually gaining points by bombing Daly. And yes, in '43 those units may even get trapped there.
.... still I NEED TO KICK SOME JAP BUT#T
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RE: Summer '42
I feel for you on the need to kick some ass. I have started 5 games and the farthest I have ever gotten was September.
Do you really think sending half your CVs to support the attack on N Oz is a good idea? Why not send 1/3 that way you can't lose as many. [8|]
Do you really think sending half your CVs to support the attack on N Oz is a good idea? Why not send 1/3 that way you can't lose as many. [8|]
RE: Summer '42
Hey Tom,
Playing Allies is tough. It takes forever before getting some satisfaction.
About the carriers. My goal is to try to engage a baby KB. Like the one he used the first time in Exmouth.
It may be 'baby' but it's still a tough beast to deal with. (3) CVs could do it, with less there's no point in even trying.
Anyway I would engage only if positive about the enemy strength. No suicide attempts [;)]
I've got plenty of time to re-evaluate, they won't be there before a month. [:'(]
Playing Allies is tough. It takes forever before getting some satisfaction.
About the carriers. My goal is to try to engage a baby KB. Like the one he used the first time in Exmouth.
It may be 'baby' but it's still a tough beast to deal with. (3) CVs could do it, with less there's no point in even trying.
Anyway I would engage only if positive about the enemy strength. No suicide attempts [;)]
I've got plenty of time to re-evaluate, they won't be there before a month. [:'(]
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RE: Summer '42
July 7th, 1942
INDIA-BURMA
Big changes in the air strategy.
The (5) Chinese fighter squadrons have all, but one, stopped training, since they are 75+ exp. I’ve redeployed those (4) squadrons in the airfields where I could be bombed by unescorted G3/4M: Diamond Harbour, Chandpur, Imphal and Dimapur.
Even the Chinese peashooters can shoot down Nell’s and Betty’s, especially with high exp pilots.
(48) LB-30 will be bombing from Akyab (size 6) anywhere - within normal range - I spot airfields with Jap aircrafts.
(96) B-17 are almost repaired in DH, as soon as Ledo is size (5) - a couple of days more - they’ll move there and will start bombing Chinese airfields.
Medium LB’s will hit airfields (=supplies) in Burma, every day.
I’ve moved more high exp fighters in Akyab (where there are now 1.800+ mines and I’m also mining Ramree Island beach, just South of Akyab) and I’ll soon move there PT’s too, since the port will get to size (3) in a couple of weeks. The only real risk of Akyab are the naval bombardments, I must neutralize such a risk.
The first (80) exp Spitfire squadron has moved into Tsuyung (NW of Kunming), it will be joined next turn by a similarly skilled Hurricane’s squadron. Tsuyung is where I’m currently airlifting supplies from Ledo.
(4), soon (5), Beaufort’s I and V-IX squadrons are in Akyab on Naval as primary and Magwe’s airfield as secondary.
I’m thinking of moving a serious RN TF into Akyab, for protection and to bombard Rangoon.
The fight has to shift towards China and Southbound.
Pilots training continues real well. A few weeks more and I’ll have 10-15 fighter squadrons all at (80) exp. [8D]
CHINA
No real news, but for the first RAF group in Tsuyung.
AUSTRALIA
I’m training the Dutch crews from Geraldtown to Exmouth (see picture).
Slowly retreating Daly former-strike force.
In Alice the heavies have almost recovered from the airfield attack and will soon get back on night bombing.
PACIFIC
All as usual. Carriers are on their way to Christmas, first stop to Australia.
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INDIA-BURMA
Big changes in the air strategy.
The (5) Chinese fighter squadrons have all, but one, stopped training, since they are 75+ exp. I’ve redeployed those (4) squadrons in the airfields where I could be bombed by unescorted G3/4M: Diamond Harbour, Chandpur, Imphal and Dimapur.
Even the Chinese peashooters can shoot down Nell’s and Betty’s, especially with high exp pilots.
(48) LB-30 will be bombing from Akyab (size 6) anywhere - within normal range - I spot airfields with Jap aircrafts.
(96) B-17 are almost repaired in DH, as soon as Ledo is size (5) - a couple of days more - they’ll move there and will start bombing Chinese airfields.
Medium LB’s will hit airfields (=supplies) in Burma, every day.
I’ve moved more high exp fighters in Akyab (where there are now 1.800+ mines and I’m also mining Ramree Island beach, just South of Akyab) and I’ll soon move there PT’s too, since the port will get to size (3) in a couple of weeks. The only real risk of Akyab are the naval bombardments, I must neutralize such a risk.
The first (80) exp Spitfire squadron has moved into Tsuyung (NW of Kunming), it will be joined next turn by a similarly skilled Hurricane’s squadron. Tsuyung is where I’m currently airlifting supplies from Ledo.
(4), soon (5), Beaufort’s I and V-IX squadrons are in Akyab on Naval as primary and Magwe’s airfield as secondary.
I’m thinking of moving a serious RN TF into Akyab, for protection and to bombard Rangoon.
The fight has to shift towards China and Southbound.
Pilots training continues real well. A few weeks more and I’ll have 10-15 fighter squadrons all at (80) exp. [8D]
CHINA
No real news, but for the first RAF group in Tsuyung.
AUSTRALIA
I’m training the Dutch crews from Geraldtown to Exmouth (see picture).
Slowly retreating Daly former-strike force.
In Alice the heavies have almost recovered from the airfield attack and will soon get back on night bombing.
PACIFIC
All as usual. Carriers are on their way to Christmas, first stop to Australia.
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RE: Summer '42
MC, why not set up shop at Perth, if you can , send your re-inforcements there along with some of the old battlewagons and that carrier strike force. It should be a well supplied base to prepare counterstrikes not only against northern Oz but also you can think about long range ops against Timor/Java. In the process, you can retake Exmouth on the fly. Those Japs in northern Oz are not going anywhere but I would want to eliminate them as soon as possible. I'm very proud of you btw, you stuck through the tough times. Good job my friend.[:)]
It doesn't make any sense, Admiral. Were we better than the Japanese or just luckier?
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RE: Summer '42
One squadron at Tsuyung? I hope that it's on LRCAP 100% for its base, guess that your esteemed opponent will use the sledgehammer as soon as he notices that the RAF is in China now. He cannot afford to loose air superiority over China (especially after his experiences from Burma). Thus be careful, he has many bases in range. Would have been better to close some of them with your heavies from Burma (Ledo) before committing fighters in China. Just my two (€) cent...
RE: Summer '42
Hi guys,
About the squadron in Tsuyung.
Now there's two: Spits and Hurricane's. It's (32) fighters with (80) exp. CAP 90%. Maybe he will come in with the sledgehammer, but he'll pay the price. I don't think he is going anywhere near 1:1. Which would be good already.
Next turn it'll be three squadrons. And the one after that the B-17s will start hitting nearby arifileds from Ledo.
I cannot hope to work it as in Burma, it takes too long ... and it's no fun [;)]
In China it is going to be bloody.
If it takes him one or two more days to prep, I'll bust him in the airfields just when they are loaded, which is the idea behind showing him some fihgters, but not too many.
Anyway I agree, it's risky. But as long as I get at least 1:1 and I divert his attention from bombing my supplies I've hit my target. It's not like I'm short on airplanes or pilots.
I guess we'll soon discover how it goes [:)]
About the squadron in Tsuyung.
Now there's two: Spits and Hurricane's. It's (32) fighters with (80) exp. CAP 90%. Maybe he will come in with the sledgehammer, but he'll pay the price. I don't think he is going anywhere near 1:1. Which would be good already.
Next turn it'll be three squadrons. And the one after that the B-17s will start hitting nearby arifileds from Ledo.
I cannot hope to work it as in Burma, it takes too long ... and it's no fun [;)]
In China it is going to be bloody.
If it takes him one or two more days to prep, I'll bust him in the airfields just when they are loaded, which is the idea behind showing him some fihgters, but not too many.
Anyway I agree, it's risky. But as long as I get at least 1:1 and I divert his attention from bombing my supplies I've hit my target. It's not like I'm short on airplanes or pilots.
I guess we'll soon discover how it goes [:)]
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RE: Summer '42
ORIGINAL: Gem35
MC, why not set up shop at Perth, if you can , send your re-inforcements there along with some of the old battlewagons and that carrier strike force. It should be a well supplied base to prepare counterstrikes not only against northern Oz but also you can think about long range ops against Timor/Java. In the process, you can retake Exmouth on the fly. Those Japs in northern Oz are not going anywhere but I would want to eliminate them as soon as possible.
That's precisely what I'm doing [:)]
ORIGINAL: Gem35
I'm very proud of you btw, you stuck through the tough times. Good job my friend.[:)]
Hey, thanks Gem [:D]
It's not like the tough times are over though [;)]
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RAF Kicks ass
July 9th, 1942
RAF kicks ass!!
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
As K predicted GH decided to smash my puny force in Tsuyung. [;)]
He came with over (40) fighters and (70) bombers. [X(]
(11) Spit’s and (7) Hurricane’s took off to face the foe, an impossible battle against a mighty enemy … at the end of the day the enemy had been push back with his tail between his legs! [:D] Air-to-air losses 2:23. Plus (2) lost on the ground. I lost (2) fighters vs. (20) of his – presumably – best Zero’s pilots.
The satisfaction won’t last long because he is now in Kunming with his ground forces and I don’t think I’ll be able to hold. But at least I’ve gotten some retribution. [:'(]
I was at 20.000 ft., he came with his bombers between 10k and 20 k ft. Therefore his escort was roughly at my altitude. If he came lower he would have hit the airfield harder but probably with more air losses.
This battle shows the importance of experience, range, height, numbers and plane quality.
Same, if not lower experience (on my side), (0) range, same or lower height, smaller number, better planes (the Spit’s).
One more squadron, the AVG/C, is now in Tsuyung. It’s composed by (17) P-40B with (78) exp, height 23.000, CAP 90% (the other P-40’s are repairing after the training sessions).
I believe he’ll come for a sweep, hence I’m probably not high enough, but if I go too high and he comes in bombing the losses would be even worse.
But now back to the ground. Kunming – and consequently Tsuyung – is in great danger. My units there are disrupted, fatigued and barely at 50% efficiency. I must try to disrupt his with air attacks.
I moved all the bombers to Chandpur, Imphal, Dimapur and Ledo. I’ll try to hit him as hard as possible. The encounter with his LRCAP won’t be nice, I’m sure.
But soon I’ll be able to defend Tsuyung while LRCAPping Kunming. I’m even thinking of going into Chungking.
(5) TB bombers are still stationed in Akyab.
I just converted a Mohawk IV squadron to Hurricane’s, although it was only at (79) exp. [;)] The air battle for China has begun, I need all the good pilots available.
In Chungking and Lanchow the supply level keeps raising. I think that they shall hold for a long time.
AUSTRALIA
As expected he is already thinking of pushing me back and cutting me off.
He attacked my units in Daly … 3.500:1.000 in my favour. [8D] We are basically stuck. He is probably slightly stronger now, due to the bad shape my units are in because of the bombings. Yet, not strong enough to take on me. The withdrawing plan stands.
ACES
A new British ace has joined the club.
Maj Overend - (12) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk
FLT Langdon – (10) kills – No.67 Squadron RAF – Spitfire Vb [8D]
1LT Koonce - (9) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk
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The brave RAF pilots fighting the yellow menace!!
RAF kicks ass!!
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
As K predicted GH decided to smash my puny force in Tsuyung. [;)]
He came with over (40) fighters and (70) bombers. [X(]
(11) Spit’s and (7) Hurricane’s took off to face the foe, an impossible battle against a mighty enemy … at the end of the day the enemy had been push back with his tail between his legs! [:D] Air-to-air losses 2:23. Plus (2) lost on the ground. I lost (2) fighters vs. (20) of his – presumably – best Zero’s pilots.
The satisfaction won’t last long because he is now in Kunming with his ground forces and I don’t think I’ll be able to hold. But at least I’ve gotten some retribution. [:'(]
I was at 20.000 ft., he came with his bombers between 10k and 20 k ft. Therefore his escort was roughly at my altitude. If he came lower he would have hit the airfield harder but probably with more air losses.
This battle shows the importance of experience, range, height, numbers and plane quality.
Same, if not lower experience (on my side), (0) range, same or lower height, smaller number, better planes (the Spit’s).
One more squadron, the AVG/C, is now in Tsuyung. It’s composed by (17) P-40B with (78) exp, height 23.000, CAP 90% (the other P-40’s are repairing after the training sessions).
I believe he’ll come for a sweep, hence I’m probably not high enough, but if I go too high and he comes in bombing the losses would be even worse.
But now back to the ground. Kunming – and consequently Tsuyung – is in great danger. My units there are disrupted, fatigued and barely at 50% efficiency. I must try to disrupt his with air attacks.
I moved all the bombers to Chandpur, Imphal, Dimapur and Ledo. I’ll try to hit him as hard as possible. The encounter with his LRCAP won’t be nice, I’m sure.
But soon I’ll be able to defend Tsuyung while LRCAPping Kunming. I’m even thinking of going into Chungking.
(5) TB bombers are still stationed in Akyab.
I just converted a Mohawk IV squadron to Hurricane’s, although it was only at (79) exp. [;)] The air battle for China has begun, I need all the good pilots available.
In Chungking and Lanchow the supply level keeps raising. I think that they shall hold for a long time.
AUSTRALIA
As expected he is already thinking of pushing me back and cutting me off.
He attacked my units in Daly … 3.500:1.000 in my favour. [8D] We are basically stuck. He is probably slightly stronger now, due to the bad shape my units are in because of the bombings. Yet, not strong enough to take on me. The withdrawing plan stands.
ACES
A new British ace has joined the club.
Maj Overend - (12) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk
FLT Langdon – (10) kills – No.67 Squadron RAF – Spitfire Vb [8D]
1LT Koonce - (9) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk
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The brave RAF pilots fighting the yellow menace!!
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RE: RAF Kicks ass
Hi,
this was certainly not what I predicted, I assumed that he'ld be successful[8D].
It seems that it is the Spitfire that makes the difference and maybe his airfields at Hanoi and Luangaprabang are relatively small?
But the RAF really kicks ass! In my own PBEM vs. Mogami (who ostensibly cares a lot more about his pilots than GH[;)]) the RAF just managed to get similar results against Zeros (game is in Oct. 42), will be interesting to see what happens in the future there as well as in your game.
One hint: By putting fighters on LRCAP (100%) over their own base hex you make sure that all of them (100%) try to intercept incoming strikes (better than only 90% trying this). Every fighter in the air will help!
K
this was certainly not what I predicted, I assumed that he'ld be successful[8D].
It seems that it is the Spitfire that makes the difference and maybe his airfields at Hanoi and Luangaprabang are relatively small?
But the RAF really kicks ass! In my own PBEM vs. Mogami (who ostensibly cares a lot more about his pilots than GH[;)]) the RAF just managed to get similar results against Zeros (game is in Oct. 42), will be interesting to see what happens in the future there as well as in your game.
One hint: By putting fighters on LRCAP (100%) over their own base hex you make sure that all of them (100%) try to intercept incoming strikes (better than only 90% trying this). Every fighter in the air will help!
K
Summer '42
July 10th, 1942
AIR WAR
The enemy decided to crush Tsuyung. My valiant pilots have been attacked by literally hundreds of fighters and bombers, in following waves. [X(]
Not even the bravest could withstand such an overwhelming number superiority. A little more than (20) pilots against the whole Japanese air force!!
Still they fought bravely. At the end of the day air-to-air losses have been 23:26 in our favour and, thanks also to an LB-30’s sortie over Moulmein, overall air losses 41:79 for the good guys.
The (3) fighter squadrons in Tsuyung have been annihilated, luckily I lost more planes than pilots (all with very high exp). Two squadrons have been relocated and converted, the AVG’s P-40B to P-40E, the Hurricane’s to Wirraway’s for some more training.
Unfortunately the Spit’s squadron doesn’t have one single operational airplane left, hence I cannot move it out. [:(]
I discovered that I’m out of British pilots. This is bad, I’m receiving replacements with 20-30 exp.
Anyway these two days have been great for the morale. I’ll probably loose Kunming and Tsuyung but I had my share of fun for this year … Allies have to learn to enjoy what little comes. [8|]
I’m going to try to hit some Southern airfields with the heavies and the Wellington’s. I have to keep the pressure, at least in Burma.
Soon I’ll be back again in China, maybe in Chungking, maybe in Sining. He won’t be able to relax.
ACES
The fierce dog fighting has not been without consequences for our aces. We lost a great man and pilot and another one has been wounded. But the fight goes on and our top pilot – Maj Overend - has scored more hits!
Maj Overend - (16) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk -> P-40E Warhawk
FLT Langdon – (12) kills – No.67 Squadron RAF – Spitfire Vb - WIA
1LT Koonce - (11) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk – KIA
1LT Hubble – (8) kills – AVG/A – P-40E Warhawk
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The RAF in action over Tsuyung
AIR WAR
The enemy decided to crush Tsuyung. My valiant pilots have been attacked by literally hundreds of fighters and bombers, in following waves. [X(]
Not even the bravest could withstand such an overwhelming number superiority. A little more than (20) pilots against the whole Japanese air force!!
Still they fought bravely. At the end of the day air-to-air losses have been 23:26 in our favour and, thanks also to an LB-30’s sortie over Moulmein, overall air losses 41:79 for the good guys.
The (3) fighter squadrons in Tsuyung have been annihilated, luckily I lost more planes than pilots (all with very high exp). Two squadrons have been relocated and converted, the AVG’s P-40B to P-40E, the Hurricane’s to Wirraway’s for some more training.
Unfortunately the Spit’s squadron doesn’t have one single operational airplane left, hence I cannot move it out. [:(]
I discovered that I’m out of British pilots. This is bad, I’m receiving replacements with 20-30 exp.
Anyway these two days have been great for the morale. I’ll probably loose Kunming and Tsuyung but I had my share of fun for this year … Allies have to learn to enjoy what little comes. [8|]
I’m going to try to hit some Southern airfields with the heavies and the Wellington’s. I have to keep the pressure, at least in Burma.
Soon I’ll be back again in China, maybe in Chungking, maybe in Sining. He won’t be able to relax.
ACES
The fierce dog fighting has not been without consequences for our aces. We lost a great man and pilot and another one has been wounded. But the fight goes on and our top pilot – Maj Overend - has scored more hits!
Maj Overend - (16) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk -> P-40E Warhawk
FLT Langdon – (12) kills – No.67 Squadron RAF – Spitfire Vb - WIA
1LT Koonce - (11) kills - AVG/C - P-40B Tomahawk – KIA
1LT Hubble – (8) kills – AVG/A – P-40E Warhawk
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The RAF in action over Tsuyung
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RE: Summer '42
July 11th, 1942
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
I’m grouping these areas because the Chinese front it’s entirely depending on the British effort. If I’ll manage to get back into China with RAF fighters, bombers and transports I’ll get a chance at not loosing it all, otherwise China is gone for good.
Heavies are now in Ledo - just upgraded to size (5) – and Akyab. From there they’ll day/night bomb Bangkok and any other airfield within range.
Wellington’s from Akyab, Chandpur and Imphal will make sure no Jap aircraft will ever be able to get within bombing or LRCAPping range of my Indian airfields.
The AVG’s training is improving, soon I’ll commit them to battle. They have the great advantage of drawing form the US Army pilot’s pool. Since the British are out, I need more American pilots.
That’s why an F4F-4 squadron has just been loaded in PH and will go all the way to India. I need more US Army pilots over there. It’ll take a couple of months, but eventually they’ll be able to help.
Kunming will soon fall and with it any tiny hope related to the units cut off in South West China and those in Chengtu. Quite a disaster I’d say. But I’m still in a good mood thanks to the last two glory days. [:)] It’s amazing how little can lift your spirits as Allies. You get so used to being beaten that a couple of good days over 7 months of war are enough to make you feel good!
Anyway, a new plan is forming in my little brain. [;)]
If I manage to get him out of Bangkok airfield too, I could envision an amphibious operation in Southern Burma. Bangkok is the only big airfield in range still ‘operational’, if he vacates that too … it’s just a thought, for now.
AUSTRALIA
He is clearly trying to counter-attack. We’ll see. Anyway more troops are flowing in.
PACIFIC
No news.
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A nice Burma map I found on the net
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
I’m grouping these areas because the Chinese front it’s entirely depending on the British effort. If I’ll manage to get back into China with RAF fighters, bombers and transports I’ll get a chance at not loosing it all, otherwise China is gone for good.
Heavies are now in Ledo - just upgraded to size (5) – and Akyab. From there they’ll day/night bomb Bangkok and any other airfield within range.
Wellington’s from Akyab, Chandpur and Imphal will make sure no Jap aircraft will ever be able to get within bombing or LRCAPping range of my Indian airfields.
The AVG’s training is improving, soon I’ll commit them to battle. They have the great advantage of drawing form the US Army pilot’s pool. Since the British are out, I need more American pilots.
That’s why an F4F-4 squadron has just been loaded in PH and will go all the way to India. I need more US Army pilots over there. It’ll take a couple of months, but eventually they’ll be able to help.
Kunming will soon fall and with it any tiny hope related to the units cut off in South West China and those in Chengtu. Quite a disaster I’d say. But I’m still in a good mood thanks to the last two glory days. [:)] It’s amazing how little can lift your spirits as Allies. You get so used to being beaten that a couple of good days over 7 months of war are enough to make you feel good!
Anyway, a new plan is forming in my little brain. [;)]
If I manage to get him out of Bangkok airfield too, I could envision an amphibious operation in Southern Burma. Bangkok is the only big airfield in range still ‘operational’, if he vacates that too … it’s just a thought, for now.
AUSTRALIA
He is clearly trying to counter-attack. We’ll see. Anyway more troops are flowing in.
PACIFIC
No news.
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A nice Burma map I found on the net
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RE: Summer '42
July 12th, 1942
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
Bad weather, few air operations.
One more fighter squadron has hit (80) exp and has been upgraded to Spit’s.
China is going down the drain.
AUSTRALIA
He is trying to get me stuck there. With the lunatic movement rules of this game he stops me from moving just by getting into the same hex with me.
It’s a real pain. [:o]
Anyway night bombing keeps scoring. I need some 250 heavies to kill 10-15 planes, but it’s better than nothing, especially since they don’t fly ground attack missions.
PACIFIC
The Wasp is now in San Francisco.
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Decommissioned on July 1, 1972, the WASP was sold on May 21, 1973, to the Union Minerals and Alloys Corp., of New York City, and subsequently scrapped"
INDIA-BURMA-CHINA
Bad weather, few air operations.
One more fighter squadron has hit (80) exp and has been upgraded to Spit’s.
China is going down the drain.
AUSTRALIA
He is trying to get me stuck there. With the lunatic movement rules of this game he stops me from moving just by getting into the same hex with me.
It’s a real pain. [:o]
Anyway night bombing keeps scoring. I need some 250 heavies to kill 10-15 planes, but it’s better than nothing, especially since they don’t fly ground attack missions.
PACIFIC
The Wasp is now in San Francisco.
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Decommissioned on July 1, 1972, the WASP was sold on May 21, 1973, to the Union Minerals and Alloys Corp., of New York City, and subsequently scrapped"
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