FITE ( Ron's Mod v. 10 )

[larryfulkerson]

@Telumar dude: Many thanks for your work, it's fantastic and adds immesurably to the TOAW experience. I really appreciate it. I'm sure the rest of the gang does too.

And about the high supply setting.........I tried to change it once and couldn't because it was a PBEM game.

Speaking of PBEM games.....I'm playing three of them now. John Fogger and I are doing FITE ( I'm the Soviets ) and Dan Phipps and I are doing FITE ( I'm the Axis ) and Jim Moore and I are locked together in a game of WITP-AE, although he said something last night about us playing the Allied side together against the Jap AI. I think that's a capital idea. We're going to get started on that any day now.

And when I'm waiting moves from my opponent(s) I'm playing WITP-AE as the Japs against the Allied AI. I'm always gaming something during the day. I eat sleep and play because I'm retired and can do what I want. Mostly.

[larryfulkerson]

Okay........I just received a file from Dan and I watched the replay etc. Dan is still using the run-away defense and he's leaving
lots of roadblocks in my way. I'm working my way through it all and pressing hard. I was greated w/ this screen at start-up.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the front lines at the start of turn 3:

[larryfulkerson]

As is my habit, I'm going through the OOB of all the units and I've come upon the 2nd Hamberger unit so embarked them on a plane and
flew them to grab a bridge over a creek just NE of Riga. He won't last long if I don't get some support to him so it behoves me to get
across the River and save him. Like I wasn't already planning on crossing the river anyway. I have neglected to get enough engineers
up to the river line to enable the crossing of the river. D'oh. I'll work on that.

[Telumar]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Okay........I just received a file from Dan and I watched the replay etc. Dan is still using the run-away defense and he's leaving
lots of roadblocks in my way. I'm working my way through it all and pressing hard. I was greated w/ this screen at start-up.

German Forces destroy industry in Tiblisi?!?! That's a hell of an advance for the Axis [:D]

This made we wonder and i found that there is a buggy event. Has your opponent selected the Sweden Ultimatum TO? Because that's what's causing this. See the attached picture.

[larryfulkerson]

Just south of the marshes the need for recon units has become so acute that I'm using just about everybody who can move like this
AA unit in the red hex.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Telumar
German Forces destroy industry in Tiblisi?!?! That's a hell of an advance for the Axis

This made we wonder and i found that there is a buggy event. Has your opponent selected the Sweden Ultimatum TO? Because that's what's causing this.

This is the only indication that there's been a change in the TO's because there used to be a TO that said something about an
ultimatum to somebody and it's not there now. We could ask Dan for sure if he selected it, I know I didn't, and it's missing now so I'm
thinking he did. How about it Dan? Did you select the aforementioned TO?

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Telumar
This made we wonder and i found that there is a buggy event.

So um......I looked at the events involved and I'm thinking an easier way to fix this big is to make a "news only" out of the event that
causes that TO to be. Or maybe leave the TO in there but disable the event that triggers the bug. So that when the player
chooses that TO from the list of TO's nothing happens except maybe a new string or something. What do 'ya think?

[Telumar]

I examined this further. The event to be activated with the TO should be Event #64, which then activates Events #574 and #575. These are two TOs wether to deny or to accept the Soviet ultimatum. However, the "Deny Ultimatum TO" activates again the wrong events, it activates #117 and #118 which are occupation events for some Soviet industrial cities. There are also futher events involved like Churchill sending additional aircraft to assist against Sweden or the US to send an expeditionary force. I haven't looked at these in detail, but i fear there might be more falsely pointing triggers etc.
Long story short, unless Ron - who and where ever he is - or someone else fixes this, a workaround could be to 'nullify' that TO as suggested by you.

Note that there is also a bug with the Swedish forces. They are not deployed properly nor are they set to enter on a certain turn or by a certain event. Again, see screenshot.

[larryfulkerson]

Well, they aren't exactly game stoppers for the purposes of our game w/ Dan here but there does need to be some fixes done. I'll take a look at that when I get some free time and make a version 11. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.

[larryfulkerson]

I didn't think I was going to be able to reach Minsk this turn but there I am starting a surroujnd on the entire city. Whoa.

[larryfulkerson]

I'm creaping up on the river crossings but except for the Soviet stuff at Minsk and the roadblocks I think all the Soviet unts got away.
D'oh.

[Telumar]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Well, they aren't exactly game stoppers for the purposes of our game w/ Dan here but there does need to be some fixes done. I'll take a look at that when I get some free time and make a version 11. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.

Except that Dan lost 5% of his production due to selecting the TO.

[larryfulkerson]

I'm up to Riga and the supply situation is still pretty good.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Telumar

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
Well, they aren't exactly game stoppers for the purposes of our game w/ Dan here but there does need to be some fixes done. I'll take a look at that when I get some free time and make a version 11. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.

Except that Dan lost 5% of his production due to selecting the TO.

Maybe we should ask Dan if he wants to keep going in spite of that loss. How about it Dan?

[larryfulkerson]

Here's my losses, some of them, at the end of T3, the Axis half of the turn. Specifically.

[larryfulkerson]

Okay, I've received a file from Dan and watched the replay etc. Dan is still running away w/ his forces and I'm still pursuing and he's
started moving eastward units westward and pretty soon we'll have the beginnings of a front line somewhere I'm sure. I was greated
by this screen at the beginning of turn 4:

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the T4 front lines before anybody has moved:

[larryfulkerson]

This is the Minsk area and most of the units in this image are moving east. There's terrific traffic trouble, truely. But progress is being
made and everything seems to be going just fine. I'm playing it by ear, no plan.

[larryfulkerson]

I've advanced so far that I've driven into the single-digit supply level areas.My RR engineers aren't keeping up w/ the front. This
could be a problem.