--The great 2003 Tank Challenge--

Squirmer · Post by **Squirmer** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:42 am

I wasn't talking about restructuring the points values. The thing is you don't take what you are given, you buy what you want. Bit different ... Why don't the US have Elite armoured units for example? Heavy Panzers are always +10.

Anyway I wasn't trying to cause a stir. I'll just butt out, go and make a nice cup of tea and dream about 17 pdrs :rolleyes:

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:33 am

I agree with the idea of platoon vs platoon. A one on one tank battle often turns into pure luck, rather than the skill of the commander. As for scouts, of any kind, I say no. This was conceived as a way to find the "Top Tank" and driver, not the best SP:WAW player. If we allow scouts, then what kind of scouts? Where do we draw the line then? No, let it be a purely tank battle.

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:14 am

Originally posted by Squirmer
I wasn't talking about restructuring the points values. The thing is you don't take what you are given, you buy what you want. Bit different ... Why don't the US have Elite armoured units for example? Heavy Panzers are always +10.

Anyway I wasn't trying to cause a stir. I'll just butt out, go and make a nice cup of tea and dream about 17 pdrs :rolleyes:

Squirmer, man, I was just poking fun, and mainly at M4(E8only)Jess, and Hawk. Don't you dare butt out, that isn't what this forum is about!;)

Also, Bernie has a good point...

Goblin

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:30 am

Squirmer, please don't take the posts as personal attacks...they are not meant that way at all.

Goblin, myself and a few of the Katz Commanders like to razz and ruffle the feathers of the M4 crowd....just to fire things up a bit and make things interesting.

Personally....I don't care if its 1 on 1 or platoon on platoon...I know my Katz will serve me well regardless.

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:14 am

Originally posted by Orzel Bialy
Goblin, myself and a few of the Katz Commanders like to razz and ruffle the feathers of the M4 crowd....just to fire things up a bit and make things interesting.

No, I do it because they are weird, and you ALWAYS pick on the weird ones, don't you? :p

Goblin

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:35 am

Originally posted by Goblin
No, I do it because they are weird, and you ALWAYS pick on the weird ones, don't you? :p

Goblin

Speak for yourself, I like to consider myself an Equal Oppourtunity Picker... no one is safe from my comedic lash!

Goblin · Post by **Goblin** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:40 am

Originally posted by Bernie
Speak for yourself, I like to consider myself an Equal Oppourtunity Picker... no one is safe from my comedic lash!

Do you mean that no one at these forums is safe? Because if you do, then my qualification applies also...:p

Goblin

Squirmer · Post by **Squirmer** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:27 pm

OK guys, no problem

I just have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about the SPWAW purchase system - too limited and inflexible IMHO.

Consider the Royal Squirmin' Dragoon Guards ready for action. Platoon on platoon sounds cool

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:59 pm

No Assault Tanks. I mean regular PanzersIII's through Panzer IV's and Panthers and Kingtigers. Dude I've been playing this game since 94.......

And it's a tactic I see more than one Opponent use. I know how to use it too ,but I tend to drive my armor deliberately to their Flanks to get a 1 hex close assault shot to his side armor rating. I lose many tanks due to his support units but 9 times out of ten my armor will surive his first shot and then kill him. If I am unluckey enough not to kill him and I have another unit to assault from the front then I do. And 9 times out of ten His armor will sit there with their backs too me.

Then they die a dishonorable death.

All because now it's my turn and he is defending.

PS: The figures above are only a rough estimate. But I see it often enough.

M4Jess · Post by **M4Jess** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 6:21 am

I am lost

DO YOU PEOPLE WANT TO DIE OR WHAT????:p :rolleyes:

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:40 am

I will accept whatever Units everyone finds acceptable.

Belisarius · Post by **Belisarius** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:58 am

Since there doesn't seem to be many M4s lined up for killing, I'll stand down until you guys are finished.

Then I want some!

I'll go with the Tiger IE, even vs. Easy8's... :rolleyes:

challenge · Post by **challenge** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:17 pm

How long are we going to debate all this? :rolleyes: *sigh*

I think we should stick with the original armor choices: favorite Kat (Panther, Tiger) verses any M4 the opposition chooses. A section or two of each is more than enough to make the point. I don't think cluttering up the field with platoons of armor will add anything. Recon, or other support, just clouds the issue; let's keep to the basics.

My only concern is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of people in the M4 group. Is it that there just isn't enough support for the poor creature, that no one except the die-hards think it's a worthwhile piece of armor, or are they just queezy about shooting their own for the play offs?

Things I'd like to know:

Final number of vehicles
Number of turns
Has someone agreed to set up the scenario
Will it be 1 tank, 1 section, or 2 sections each

IMNSHO it should be at least two tanks. If we use two sections, keep all the Kat lovers happy with one section of Panthers and one of Tigers. Start positions, armor and the maps need to be the same for each fight on both sides although this could change for each round of the eliminations. For the final M4/Kat fight a new map or starting positions would make it where combatants would have to be adaptable as well as lucky.

I've been ready for this series since the idea was first proposed. Now me want to kill something. Me want to earn wings for banner.

Klinkenhoffen · Post by **Klinkenhoffen** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:48 pm

In Jesses thread " am I really alone", the number were split fairly evenly between Kats and M4's.

Maybe all thoses M4 drivers are sissys:D

Krec · Post by **Krec** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:40 am

ill drive some of those m4s boys, is it to late?:D

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:02 am

Good to see ya on board Krec.

You guys better watch out ! He's a good Tanker.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:36 pm

Hi, Are you guys using a equal number of tanks or points?

Commander Klank · Post by **Commander Klank** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:54 pm

Hi guys...

Is it too late to jump into this challange? I'd like to try a MkIIIm vs a m4 Sherman...

But what ever you guys agree on is fine.

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 11:16 pm

I think it will either be two sections or two platoons And maybe two different types of Med. calibur or one type of med. and one type of large calibur. There's nothing writen in stone yet.....:rolleyes: But if you look at the other Messages you'll see what has been discussed so far.

challenge · Post by **challenge** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:08 am

If we set a sign-up deadline and fix the starting date for the competion to begin we'll know how many people are on what side. Since it's supposed to be Side vs same side for the eliminations we can use concensus from each side to figure out what we're fighting with.

We started this on the tird, so why not use 30 April as the sign-up date?

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