--The great 2003 Tank Challenge--

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 4:19 am

Status of recruits.

--- M4 ---
Hawk
M4 Jess

--- Katz ---
TheOverlord
challenge
Klinkenhoffen
Orzel
Ironfist

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As per the great M4 Jess sugestion.

Tread for the contest moved here.

Sign-up here:jeanpierre.hamel@videotron.ca
Subject:2003 Tank Challenge

Send your name and your preferences M4 or PzIVh(a bit weak in the @$$ but ah well)

Seems the tanks have yet to be determined!!!

But I think I'd need someone kind enough to organize the play-offs, I'm not sure I could match the players correctly since I don't know who's more experienced etc.

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--The great 2003 Tank Challenge--

Inspired from the tank fight treads!

A challenge for you M4 and Katz lovers
(stop hiding and kissing in the trees and face your ultimate nightmare):

1- All M4 drivers compete one on one against each other until there is only one winner, this way we will know who is the best M4 driver.

2- Same as above but for Katz lovers.

3- Each of the winner of 1 and 2 above will fight it out to determine the ultimate killing machine.

Version 7.1.

M4A3 (76)w vs. Pz IVh

As suggested from Bernie:
Round-robin setup, to eliminate (as much as possible) flukes, luck (good & bad), and simple mistakes.

-At the start it be best 2 out of 3, each player on each "side" playing against each other player on the same side.

-Then come semi-finals, also 2 out of 3, but against only one opponent from the semi-finalists.

-Then the finals, the best 2 on each side play 5 out of 7 against each other (same side) to determine the best on each side.

-Then a best 2 out of 3 between the best of both sides.

Still not official rules.

Size and map yet to be determined.

Stay tuned!

M4Jess · Post by **M4Jess** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 4:30 am

I vote for Bernie as master judge and over all wargod.

whats next?
I hear Orzel posted a scen for this somewhere...???

{By the way, Orzel is a sissy :rolleyes:}

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 4:41 am

Originally posted by M4 Jess
I vote for Bernie as master judge and over all wargod.

whats next?
I hear Orzel posted a scen for this somewhere...???

{By the way, Orzel is a sissy :rolleyes:}

Ya we need a scen, I dont what size would be best!

And I think there still is an issue about the tanks to be used on either side for the best face-off!

For now I think it's this:

M4A3 (76)w vs. Pz IVh

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:41 am

Originally posted by M4 Jess
I vote for Bernie as master judge and over all wargod.

whats next?
I hear Orzel posted a scen for this somewhere...???

{By the way, Orzel is a sissy :rolleyes:}

Judge Bernie? Doesn't quite have enough "ring" to it to get picked up by any of the major networks...

I appreciate the honor guys, but my dance card is kinda full these days. My business is now picking up again after a long winter hiatus, in fact, I'm about to hire two new people the workload has gotten so bad. But I'll be happy to sit on the sidelines and make funny comments.

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:46 am

Originally posted by jphamel

But I think I'd need someone kind enough to organize the play-offs, I'm not sure I could match the players correctly since I don't know who's more experienced etc.

Don't bother trying to match players, or sort by experience. The whole point of this excercise is to find the best of the best. You can put any M4 driver against any other M4 driver and see who wins. Keep doing it until you have the King of The M4, then do the same for the Kats. Then just pit the two kings against each other for the final showdown.

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:49 am

ready to start the journey to pounding on some M4's!!!

I prefer a Kat (Panther or Tiger) but if the M4 boys are too scared of those...I'll acccept the Pzkw IV (h or j models) too.

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:57 am

--- M4 ---
Hawk
M4 Jess

--- Katz ---
TheOverlord
challenge
Klinkenhoffen
Orzel
Ironfist

If I'm missing anyone email-me

I need suggestions for the latest date for the sign-up!

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 12:42 pm

What ver. are you guys using ? 7.1 or H2H ? I would put my Command with the Panzer gruppe if slots are still available.

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:34 pm

I get the feeling that either Jess or Benedict...er, um Hawk I mean....will be the "M4 Bucket of Bolts" finalist.

Slim pickings for candidates on that side of the fence so far...where's those other two or three M4 lovers that were around for a while? They must have been returned to the ward by the guys in white with the butterfly nets! lol

:p

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:11 pm

Originally posted by Ironfist
What ver. are you guys using ? 7.1 or H2H ? I would put my Command with the Panzer gruppe if slots are still available.

Will be 7.1, I'll give you command of a Panzer gruppe for now!

It seems I'll have to sign Hawk and Jess twice:D

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:11 pm

a couple of questions: In the first phase will it be mirror match of Katz's vs Katz's or will one player have to use the USA? #2 The type and size of the Kompfgruppe. Will there be any recon units or any other type of support? # What kind of "Pref" options ? will all options be on ? Mech break down, weapon break down ect? Just wanting to get a feel of the set-up.

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 2:42 am

Originally posted by Ironfist
a couple of questions: In the first phase will it be mirror match of Katz's vs Katz's or will one player have to use the USA? #2 The type and size of the Kompfgruppe. Will there be any recon units or any other type of support? # What kind of "Pref" options ? will all options be on ? Mech break down, weapon break down ect? Just wanting to get a feel of the set-up.

IMHO, breakdowns should be off for these battles, and at least for the prelims, it should be Kat on Kat and M4 on M4. Continue that way until you have two semi-finalists in each group, then pit them agaisnt the other side until only one from each is left.

Klinkenhoffen · Post by **Klinkenhoffen** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:27 am

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jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:42 am

Originally posted by Bernie
IMHO, breakdowns should be off for these battles, and at least for the prelims, it should be Kat on Kat and M4 on M4. Continue that way until you have two semi-finalists in each group, then pit them agaisnt the other side until only one from each is left.

As stated by Judge Bernie:D

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:47 am

I have listed the recruits so for at the beginning of the tread.

Common guys I need proud Americans here:)

CPT Shoe · Post by **CPT Shoe** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:03 am

And a Kat Lover too!!:D

You weren't plannin some fun without me were you??

Very interesting this Platoon on Platoon concept...I'm drooling

Ironfist · Post by **Ironfist** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:37 am

Thanks for the clarification. I thought thats what you meant, just wanted to make sure. Let me know when we are ready to start. I will keep an eye on this thread.

Squirmer · Post by **Squirmer** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:39 pm

Count me in if I can have a British-improved M4 with a lil' old 17 pdr gun :rolleyes:

Seriously though, if this is a 1 tank per side thing why not let the player choose which tank they want BUT they only get 100 points worth. This is assuming use of the scenario editor to setup games. You adjust the exp/mor numbers until the value of the unit is = 100 (or as near as dammit). So you can have that Kingtiger but it's going to be of very low quality. Or you could have a super-elite T-34/76. Or an average StuG. Etc ...

Just an idea

Squirmer · Post by **Squirmer** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:07 pm

Make that 120 points per tank ...

That would give you a M4A3 (76) W at 60/60 vs. a PzKpfw-IVj at 72/72.

SPWAW points system thinks that the M4 is better

M4Jess · Post by **M4Jess** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:30 pm

I will set up scenarios when I get back from Aberdeen....

I am thinking about 4 scens will work...thoughts?

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