Release Plan

[Wade1000]

ORIGINAL: drillerman

It's all gone a bit quiet around here all of a sudden.

Yeah, It's nice when a forum has much activity. If the thread "Hits" are any indication of activity on Distant Worlds forum then it seems like there many continue to browse here. Maybe, most are non registered, "Lurkers".

[Westheim]

I don't mind if it's released on the 23rd or 26th or 34th ... I need a new laptop first - the system requirements are locking me out with the laptop I own ...

[Wade1000]

The 34th would be alright. But if they need more time then they should not rush, but wait til the 6th week of next month, maybe on the 32nd.

[Gargantou]

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

The 34th would be alright. But if they need more time then they should not rush, but wait til the 6th week of next month, maybe on the 32nd.

Oh you![:D]

[Mad Russian]

ORIGINAL: Mad Russian

Or do an active DAR. Add to it once each day or something.

Once I get DW up and running, I plan on doing a DAR, like I did for FoF with my UnCivil War DAR.

Good Hunting.

MR

Notice that this says I don't have DW YET!!! That means I'm not one that is capable of doing a DAR at the moment. No need to PM me telling me you're waiting for MY DAR yet....give me a couple of months before you start to get antsy about anything from my universe.

Good Hunting.

MR

[Wade1000]

Rants are cool.

Refine the game for another couple months, please.
Yes...really. Incomplete, beta-stage, released strategy games are so annoying, played out, and often don't succeed much.
Though, if Distant Worlds IS ready for release then that will be swell.
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tm.asp?m=2393647 ('Code Force and Matrix Games, please do not rush release Distant Worlds.' thread)

Heh. In general I simply say that the game should not be rushed. It should be delayed IF they feel that the game's quality needs more time to complete. If you disagree then you want the game rushed and accept any potential risks to game quality that might result. You want a rushed game. If you say that you don't then you are actually in agreement with me but uncertain of your opinion.
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So, maybe you have liked the state of rushed games you might have played. So, you have maybe justified them because there would be many update fixes from a then very much larger pool of unwitting beta testing-like players that had then purchased the apparently unfinished games.

[Gargantou]

Wouldn't releasing it commercially technically means they got a larger user group from which to get feedback and bug-reports for future patches, hence speeding up the improvement of the product?[;)]

[Gertjan]

Wade, it seems that you like anticipation of the game better than playing it. perhaps you should imagine your own game, but then a release date which is in 2000 years.

[Webbco]

Haha.

[Wade1000]

So, maybe you have liked the state of rushed games you might have played. So, you have maybe justified them because there would be many update fixes from a then very much larger pool of unwitting beta testing-like players that had then purchased the apparently unfinished games.
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So, maybe you were satisfied with unfinished, sub standard products.

So, maybe you were happy with the negative publicity towards those rushed, unfinished games of the past.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

So, maybe you have liked the state of rushed games you might have played. So, you have maybe justified them because there would be many update fixes from a then very much larger pool of unwitting beta testing-like players that had then purchased the apparently unfinished games.

Hmm, let's see...MOO3 was rushed and it was wonderful. [8|] So great the few fans of the franchise that didn't give up finally had to recode the game to fix it and make it playable.

So I'm with ya, I'd rather wait than get another rushed game, I don't want to pay to beta-test their code for them. [;)]

[Wade1000]

Thankyou, Shark.
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Rushed game advocates;
so, maybe you were satisfied with unfinished, sub standard products.

So, maybe you were happy with the negative publicity towards those rushed, unfinished games of the past.

[ASHBERY76]

I am now happy for the delay because bombarding has been added.Being able to bombard prawns was more important that pretty pictures in my book.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

I am now happy for the delay because bombarding has been added.Being able to bombard prawns was more important that pretty pictures in my book.

And that is a good thing that happened from the delay. I'm in the 'Get it right or don't release it' camp. I've gotten far too many rushed games and they all end up being frustrating with the game disks being only useful as drink coasters.

Get it right rather than get it fast please.

[Aurelian]

Been enjoying Duke Nukem: Forever myself.
 
Oh wait......

[impact]

The point here is, I believe, that one can be rather sure that the devs and publishers got the message after about a billion forum posts about it. I am sure that constructive input is always welcome and good ideas will be gladly received and added to the game at one or another stage, as this is obviously the policy of customer-friendly companies like Code Force and Matrix Games, but crying out the same message over and over again or referring to it in every other post one makes can become redundant quickly and might at some point start being considered "spamming" by some users.
Just let the people do their jobs, the beta testers assured us they did great so far and the screenshots, feature list and video footage support that statement strongly.
And should some people feel worried because of bad examples like MoO3, I would ask them to remember that in these particular cases the features that would have made those games great were promised, but never made it into the final version. Distant Worlds however appears to be finished except for the artwork, so the feature list that is being promoted with the game is what is actually already in there.
Being a software developer myself I can tell you one well-known wisdom in our industry: Never add additional features when you are too close to your release date. Doing so is risky, as those new features might invite bugs and imbalances, considering that there is usually not the time to test them as thoroughly as the original feature-set.

[Wade1000]

Bad point.

I have been posting my reoccuring message about opposition to rushing Distant Worlds only when I see that others are posting reoccuring messages advocating rushing Distant Worlds(like you maybe just did).
If you think that maybe I am spamming then it should apply that you also think that maybe those others are spamming messages that have already been duplicated by many others.

ORIGINAL:  impact
but crying out the same message over and over again or referring to it in every other post one makes can become redundant quickly and might at some point start being considered "spamming" by some users.

Go cry more (QQ).
Don't tell other forum members what not to post. Just post your own.
Let the developers make any decisions they like while reading our posts.

[Leglaen]

Wade, I've been lurking here for some time (and enjoyed reading up on DW).

You are correct that you can post what you like--this is a part of the freedom of the Internet.

However, you have agreed to certain restrictions on your freedom by signing up to Matrix's forums. They have the right to control what is posted here. Now, I certainly don't think you've posted anything that is obscene or akin to that; but you have created a flurry of posts which tend to focus on what you want in DW.

Again, that's not a problem--but by registering and posting here on Matrix you have entered into a regulated relationship.

At the very least, I don't think it is polite or proper behavior to continue on a one-track mindset of demand. True, you are the customer--but the natural dignity of human beings (at least) should make you pause and attempt to recognize the gravity of the situation.

For instance, you have constantly bugged for a longer period of beta-testing and not rushing DW. Ok, fine, great, tell Matrix that...once or twice, but in virtually every thread on here? I think Mr. Rutkins and Elliot can read. They understand your perspective.

By the way, that goes for those who want the game NOW...of course we want to play the game. Yet harping on the release date (though good for marketing and such) does at some point become irresponsible.

I certainly have little "pull" or influence here--I merely say these things as a human who likes for folks to respect one another. It can get tense in here the weeks before release. That's understandable. What is less understandable is the continual refrain for now now now or wait wait wait.

Lest anyone assume I am a 'fanboy' or whatnot for Matrix, let me say that I've had some unhappy experiences with them back in the day (due to computer troubles et al). I still intend to buy DW.

Feel free to push back...

[Aurelian]

I think I've said it brfore. It will be released when ready.

I also have to say that this: tm.asp?m=2393647 should of been enough.

It brings to mind a scene from Hogan's Heroes.

Klink : "There's never been a successful escape from Stalag 13!!!!"

Burkhalter: "So you've told me........... And told me............ And told me."

[magickoji]

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

Bad point.

I have been posting my reoccuring message about opposition to rushing Distant Worlds only when I see that others are posting reoccuring messages advocating rushing Distant Worlds(like you maybe just did).
If you think that maybe I am spamming then it should apply that you also think that maybe those others are spamming messages that have already been duplicated by many others.

ORIGINAL:  impact
but crying out the same message over and over again or referring to it in every other post one makes can become redundant quickly and might at some point start being considered "spamming" by some users.

Go cry more (QQ).
Don't tell other forum members what not to post. Just post your own.
Let the developers make any decisions they like while reeading our posts.

I see that I'm not the only one that thinks Wade is a spammer. Just ignore him. Too bad there isn't a way to NOT see certain peoples posts. I'll have to check into that.

Also let's take a vote, since Wade doesn't mind waiting... Lets let everyone else get the Game and enjoy it. While he waits for it to be perfected and not rushed.



edit: Also very good post Leglaen.

edit2: cool I just got a star... not a matrix recruit anymore.