Powerful Panzers

[doomtrader]

ORIGINAL: freeboy

BROKEN!!!!

Are you sure?
They are really powerful when comparing to Soviet forces, as historically in 1941. The Germans just rolled trough Red Army.
Please check how long those steamrollers are able to keep their strength at maximum. If ToF has to simulate real WW2 at least just a little bit, Soviets should be kicked until the end of 1942 if you are starting from Barnarossa. If you are starting to play since 1939 or at least 1940, you have some time to prepare.
If you are starting in 1941, wait for the winter and keep your fingers crossed that 1942 will be better.

Of course you might try Lemming tactic presented in one of the AAR's.

[Akmatov]

Hmmm, and I do get the TOW discount. . . . .

[freeboy]

Doom, Yes I am sure... the ai just crushed me... I barely am holding on to Moscow, Lenn will fall. Stallingrad will fall.. I cannot build troops fast enough, even the German infantry is cruising.. and they should be crippled in the first winter

[freeboy]

Can I modify the ratios or formula for urban conflict.. reducing armor effectivenes attacking into urban sq?

[doomtrader]

There is a common modifier for all units fighting in Urban terrain.

I can not promise, but will think about such modifier for the 1.02 patch.

On the other hand on this game scale a Panzer Unit is not a unit with armors only. IIRC there are two tank regiments and one mechanized infantry regiment. Later in the war, the proportions has changed.





Getting back on the topic.
One of the most important modifiers which makes the Panzers so strong is the warfare doctrine. Germans are having it higher than others, and with each level the supremacy is increasing.
What comes to my mind is that if the German player is doing not better than in reality, the warfare bonus should be slowly lowered.
Comments?

But I'm still waiting for some feedback from 1942/43

[freeboy]

we are talking about abilities.. in very loose terms.. My point is .. as a MOD.. one for myself to try and to test.. can I change the values of combat in urban for the armor divisions and korps?
thanks
imo this one thing would save us from the dreaded upk syndrom..
I just am not sure if I can change one part of the combat mechinism... ie only affectin armor units?

[doomtrader]

As I said.
City defense modifier works for all units, so if you will change it, it will affecting infantry also.

[freeboy]

right.. can I sellectively change combat for only armor? help?

[doomtrader]

no

[freeboy]

alas my hopo fades! lol
What is your day job? You are awesome at helping here!!!
I keep thinking on how, easily, to adjust the game to add spice and playability.. that last idea was about as good as I have!
And
I am willing to mod.. and test
thanks again
my pbserver againsth the WAR GOD is interesting.. he beat me up in NA, I am taking all I can in Euroope.. soon we will face off in USSR...
 

[doomtrader]

I'm working 24/7.
Usually.

If you are doing what you really like, you are more committed to do the job right.

[battlevonwar]

Examining this conundrum right now in a live player game. How do the Reds face off vs the Panzers. Historically they didn't, until all the Panzer vaporized to the Snow and Soviet Counter Attacks.

In game: FreeBoy is playing a game vs me as Allies, he is in Summer of '40...Looks like a buildup for Barbie is inevitable. I will see what if anything can be done...

[freeboy]

stay tuned