Good Guys vs Bad Guys

[KG Erwin]

Is there such a thing in SPWaW? We don't deal with the larger strategic/geopolitical issues. This is simply a test of wills between common soldiers and their combat leadership against an enemy.

I've thought about this a lot, and I have my sentimental favorites, but when it gets down to it, all we have are our troops and a mission to accomplish.

Yeah, the Gunny wears his loyalty on his sleeve, but that doesn't mean that any of the other fighting men are good or bad.

It's an old cliche -- "Theirs is not to question why. Theirs is just to do or die".

[Alby]

me vs any pbem opponet is
Good guy(me) vs bad guys(them)....
LOL

[FlashfyreSP]

Erwin, why do you struggle with this? [&:]
There is no "ideology" in SPWAW...it doesn't matter what the "socio-political factors" are between the various nations; anyone who has even briefly studied the history of WWII knows who the "good guys" are and who the "bad guys" are. Besides, those terms are subjective, depending on whose viewpoint you are "looking through". For example, the USMC is the "bad guy" when seen through the eyes of the Japanese soldier defending his homeland. [;)]

Forget about the "cosmic influences" and "startegic deliberations" and all that other *crap*, and play the game for what it is...a combat simulation focused on WWII. [8D]

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: FlashfyreSP

Erwin, why do you struggle with this? [&:]
There is no "ideology" in SPWAW...it doesn't matter what the "socio-political factors" are between the various nations; anyone who has even briefly studied the history of WWII knows who the "good guys" are and who the "bad guys" are. Besides, those terms are subjective, depending on whose viewpoint you are "looking through". For example, the USMC is the "bad guy" when seen through the eyes of the Japanese soldier defending his homeland. [;)]

Forget about the "cosmic influences" and "startegic deliberations" and all that other *crap*, and play the game for what it is...a combat simulation focused on WWII. [8D]

Kevin, that's exactly what I was trying to say in my original post.

[vahauser]

Glenn,
 
Does that mean you've reconsidered and are willing to play KG Kruger in a Cataclysm Campaign?

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: vahauser

Glenn,

Does that mean you've reconsidered and are willing to play KG Kruger in a Cataclysm Campaign?

No. I'll still insist on playing with a reasonably "historic" force, i.e., not with a Finnish core of ski troops and Sissi guerrillas, nor a completely mechanized German force in 1939. That's fantasy. Sorry.

[vahauser]

What if you and I design a core together for Kamfgruppe Erwin for a Cataclysm Campaign?
 
If we can come with a core that is satisfactory as a reasonable compromise to both of us, then will you play a Cataclysm Campaign as Kampfgruppe Erwin?

[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

I'm always USA so I always hold the moral highground.

[vahauser]

UndercoverNotChickenSalad,
 
I think the point of this thread is that taking the "moral high ground" is problematic, to say the least.

[forgorin]

What the #$%^ is with this ##$$ 'moral high ground'? Its just so much shit. It would be nice if some people would grow up. It's a game you lame ass morron. Jees. Soldiers just do their job. You all go on about how the Americans in Iraq are just doing their jobs. What about the Japanes or Germans in WWll? What were they? Were they all evil 'rip the heads off your babis and rape your women' types?

Grow up. You people disgust me.[:@][:@][:@]

[PimpYourAFV]

There are good guys and bad guys in every army. There is no such thing as a good army or bad army or whatever. There is the same ratio of good to bad people in every army as there is in any group of people just like the members of this forum for example.

Bad people look like this:

Good people, like me for example, look like this:

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: forgorin

What the #$%^ is with this ##$$ 'moral high ground'? Its just so much shit. It would be nice if some people would grow up. It's a game you lame ass morron. Jees. Soldiers just do their job. You all go on about how the Americans in Iraq are just doing their jobs. What about the Japanes or Germans in WWll? What were they? Were they all evil 'rip the heads off your babis and rape your women' types?

Grow up. You people disgust me.[:@][:@][:@]

Damn... Calm down...

[Riun T]

You should all read,"The end of war" by David L. Robbins,, gives an excellent depiction of just this type of morale delema,and how some things that happen during war can start out with a very cloudy interpretation,,,and end up working themselves out with the influence of other occurances in the same war,that shock or educate u back into civil ethecal morale return of mindset. a long but really good read.RT

[Kevin E. Duguay]

You almost had to think about it when you sent that cardboard platoon of trucks down a road to their doom, just to slow the enemy advance.

Now it's just a click of the mouse.

[Goblin]

forgorin,
 
It seemed to me that Chicken was cracking a joke. Even if he was not, please tone down your responses some, eh?
 
 
 
Goblin

[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

fangorine you shut up, boy.    
 

[Goblin]

OK...
 
Everyone tone down your responses, please.
 
 
 
Goblin

[Alby]

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[forgorin]

HEHEHEHEHEHE[:)]

Yes Masta!

[Goblin]

ORIGINAL: Alby

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