CC6 = Modern?

Close Combat - Cross of Iron is based on Atomic Games award Winning Close Combat Series. Close Combat is a real time game were you take command of German or Soviet squads on the Eastern Front during World War II. This version is being developed by CSO Simtek and will include many new features and improvements.
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Jumping the gun here but I hope it isnt true.
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Depends what you mean by 'modern'. Certainly not anything USA beats up assorted Arab/muslim types, though. I'm reasonably confident that won't happen if only because of the sh*t that hit the fan when it was announced for the new Combat Mission.

Much as I'd love to see a Cold War, Vietnam or even Mid East '67 and '73 CC I suspect WW2 is what folks want, and where the most money is. They would be daft to do anything else IMHO, and with that restriction the Pacific would seem to be the obvious choice as it was (strangely) avoided last time.
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There are a couple of things to remember here.
 
CC6 is already underway and is making use of the current engine. CC7 will be a new engine and new technology.
 
CC6 is going to cover a lot of ground, but modern is not your thing, have no fear ;) I have laready posted many of the new features and thats just a start on what will be in CC6. It will move CC forward a long ways ;)
 
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Well, I personally would liek to see a modern tactical squad shooter...in fact I was recently going to post would it be too "insensitive" to create a CC based on the 1990 Gulf War...where we actually had a legit reason for a fight.
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Nothing wrong with 1990 Gulf War (apart from it had to happen).  Getting rid of an invader with Global approval.  Legit no question.
 
CC suits WWII.  No surprises there!.  I think I can say that further productions of CC will include more modern theatres.  It already exists in Military Sims based on CC.
 
Whether CC6 will be modern you will just have to wait and see at this stage...[:)]
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Unless you want to kill the series before it even get's going again, I wouldn't go modern to start.
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Nor would I do another WW2 Western Front......CC1,2,4,and 5 exhausted my interest in that theatre.
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Do you guys know that CC3 had mods for every front from poland to vietnam?  I think there was even a mad that made it orcs vs humans and one based on star wars.  I'd suspect cc6, no matter what front the developers chose in about a year you'll play whatever time period and theater you'd like so I wouldn't worry about that.
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ORIGINAL: UndercoverNotChickenSalad

Do you guys know that CC3 had mods for every front from poland to vietnam? I think there was even a mad that made it orcs vs humans and one based on star wars. I'd suspect cc6, no matter what front the developers chose in about a year you'll play whatever time period and theater you'd like so I wouldn't worry about that.

Well aware of that and I'm also tired of yet another hedgerow to cross. Gets boring.
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I love defending behind hedgerows :)
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I'd suspect cc6, no matter what front the developers chose in about a year you'll play whatever time period and theater you'd like so I wouldn't worry about that.
Ah reckon so... [:)]
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From what i`ve read on the internet, CC6 will be based on the Korean war and will be called CC: Red Pheonix but I read this a long time ago. LOL! Actually, there`s still a space over at gamefaqs.com for this game but no US release date is listed.

I suppose the Korean war would be a good choice, even though it doesn`t get much talk. It seems to be a bit of a forgotten war but it wasn`t just America versus North Korea, it was the allies vs NK. Several countries participated in that war.

On a side note... can someone explain in full detail (but keep it under 2 paragraphs) why the second gulf war wasn`t 'legit'? If I remember correctly the UN did sign authorization for the war. And so did almost every US senator. Please... explain.
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(@warishwere, wikipedia "iraq war", Kofi Anan General Secretary UN 16.09.2004: "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal.", and there is also mentioned the UN Resolution 11.10.2002 Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq)
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ORIGINAL: UndercoverNotChickenSalad

Do you guys know that CC3 had mods for every front from poland to vietnam?  I think there was even a mad that made it orcs vs humans and one based on star wars.  I'd suspect cc6, no matter what front the developers chose in about a year you'll play whatever time period and theater you'd like so I wouldn't worry about that.


I would rather have CC6 be based on WW2 and mod forward then the other way around...besides we are way overdue for a dedicated Pacific island hopping Campaign. CC6: Pacific ...I wouldn't mind CC6: Italy/Greece as well.
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The "problem" with any new Close Combat set in WWII will be there are precious few theaters that have not already been covered in a previous release or full scale mod, while, with the exception of Vietnam, any more modern conflict would be exceedinly tank heavy (and armored combat is probably CC's greatest weakpoint.)
 
@warishere and Motomouse: By that same standard, the war over Kosovo was also illegal (and Kofi Annan said as much, though in that case he was still in favor of the war). However, it can also be argued that UN Resolution 1441 gave the United States, Great Britain, and their allies legal authority under the UN Charter to use force if Iraq failed comply with UN demands. Either way, the invasion and liberation of Iraq was undertaken in response to a chronic perceived regional and potentially international threat, and is in that regard no less "legit" than any of the other dozens of conflicts the US, UK, and continental powers have been involved in since 1945, with or without detailed UN approval.
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Out of curiosity, did Lebanon get permission from the UN to launch a pre-emptive strike against Israel? It wasn`t that long ago when this happend and I don`t recall a UN resolution for it? I guess its okay for Leb to strike Israel but its not okay for the allies to take out Saddam? And god forbid, Israel makes any attempt to defend themselves.

Since when was war ever 'legit' anyways? LOL! Thats funny....
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If they release a non-WWII CC it's a no-sale from me, I just have trouble getting into modern although I've tried.

I'd be happy if they looked more closely at particular battles within theatres, a bit like the HASL squad leader modules. I know there's a stalingrad mod out there - that sort of thing, and concentrate on bug fixing and adding features rather than tackling different eras.

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CC6 is not Red Phoenix.  It will not be Koera circa 2008 and it will not be Korea circa 1950.  What it will be is a CC as never before and a modder's dream come true.
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