what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
in my current game (standard scenario) I've come to the conclusion I've many 2 star (18 generals) and 3 star generals (10 generals roughly) and only ONE 1 star general.
Is this WAD ? I don't build academies, but it's weird to find virtually none 1 star generals.
why ?
Is this WAD ? I don't build academies, but it's weird to find virtually none 1 star generals.
why ?
RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
You do have one 3-star for each corps and one 2-star for each division, right? What might be happening is that if you're playing with "Fewer Generals" and are near the start of the game you've received about 30 generals so far, and have promoted them all. As you get new generals they'll be arriving as one-stars, and will stay at that rank unless you produce more containers.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
You do have one 3-star for each corps and one 2-star for each division, right? What might be happening is that if you're playing with "Fewer Generals" and are near the start of the game you've received about 30 generals so far, and have promoted them all. As you get new generals they'll be arriving as one-stars, and will stay at that rank unless you produce more containers.
I think what he means is that the game generates too many 2 and 3-star generals period. I have gotten Hood as a 3-star general only when he should be a 1-star, and Igot him as a 3-star in early 1862. I did not promote Hood, he came that way to the game and he and some other 3-star and a couple of excess 2-stars have messed-up my command structure. I put Hood in the Coprs conatining Polk, and Polk is also a 3-star, so which 3-star is in command, Hood or Polk?? Same for all the 2-stars.
Chris
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
There are some issues associated with generals coming in at higher than one star that I need to look into. What you're describing seems related.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
There are some issues associated with generals coming in at higher than one star that I need to look into. What you're describing seems related.
Thanx, and it is related as it is the same thing that Spruce is saying; too many 2 and 3-star Gens. being generated by the game.
Also, it would be good to know who is in command if you have more than one 2 or 3-star Gen. in the same container.
Chris
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
Wait, are you saying that there are more 2-stars than divisions and/or more 3-stars than corps? If so, I misunderstood before.
When two generals of the same rank are in a container alphabetical order breaks the tie. (This is better than making it random, since at least you immediately can know who's in charge.)
When two generals of the same rank are in a container alphabetical order breaks the tie. (This is better than making it random, since at least you immediately can know who's in charge.)
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
Wait, are you saying that there are more 2-stars than divisions and/or more 3-stars than corps? If so, I misunderstood before.
When two generals of the same rank are in a container alphabetical order breaks the tie. (This is better than making it random, since at least you immediately can know who's in charge.)
Both, more 2-stars and 3-stars than respective containers. [&:]
Thanx for telling me/us about the alphabetical command priority. That is OK as there has to be something to base command prioritization on. Now, I can put Hood over Polk and AP Hill over Bragg. Bragg and/or Polk lower the disposition of their troops it seems. This info. helps a lot!!
Chris
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
ORIGINAL: christof139
Wait, are you saying that there are more 2-stars than divisions and/or more 3-stars than corps? If so, I misunderstood before.
When two generals of the same rank are in a container alphabetical order breaks the tie. (This is better than making it random, since at least you immediately can know who's in charge.)
Both, more 2-stars and 3-stars than respective containers. [&:]
Thanx for telling me/us about the alphabetical command priority. That is OK as there has to be something to base command prioritization on. Now, I can put Hood over Polk and AP Hill over Bragg. Bragg and/or Polk lower the disposition of their troops it seems. This info. helps a lot!!
Chris
A.P. Hill does not come after Bragg alphabetically...
Okay, I think I know how to solve this business of # 2/3-stars > # divisions/corps.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
Gil,
He must be referring to Coming Fury, which still has 100 percenters entering after Turn 1 at higher than 1 Star rank.
The original poster simply ran out of generals. Once you promote those you have up to command all divisions, corps and armies (especially if you are expanding your forces rapidly), you won't have many 1 stars left unless you're playing with More Generals. That's fine though, the default settings aren't intended to saddle you with a lot of 1 stars.
Regards,
- Erik
He must be referring to Coming Fury, which still has 100 percenters entering after Turn 1 at higher than 1 Star rank.
The original poster simply ran out of generals. Once you promote those you have up to command all divisions, corps and armies (especially if you are expanding your forces rapidly), you won't have many 1 stars left unless you're playing with More Generals. That's fine though, the default settings aren't intended to saddle you with a lot of 1 stars.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
I'll tinker with the relevant files tomorrow night or Friday, and post them for download.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
A.P. Hill does not come after Bragg alphabetically...
Mmmmm, I didn't say that, i said just the opposite here: "Now, I can put Hood over Polk and AP Hill over Bragg."
Better get some eyeglasses. I've had mine since 3rd Grade, but sometimes they don't help.
Chris
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
But Hill cannot go over Bragg, because 'B' comes before 'H' -- so any container with Hill and Bragg at identical ranks will be commanded by Bragg.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
But Hill cannot go over Bragg, because 'B' comes before 'H' -- so any container with Hill and Bragg at identical ranks will be commanded by Bragg.
Oh, I thought the 'AP' in 'Hill' came first, so you are right as I thought it was considered part of the whole name in the alphabetical sense since Braxton Bragg is a 'BB', Bragg is a 'B' and A.P. Hill is an 'APH'. Bragg is usually referred to as just 'Bragg', A.P, Hill not as just 'Hill' but as 'A.P. Hill' since there are those other 'Hills' around, and Hardee as just 'Hardee' rather than 'W. Hardee', and 'Hardee' comes before Lucius Polk or just 'Polk'. Simple isn't it??? [&:][X(][8|][:)]
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'What is more amazing, is that amongst all those approaching enemies there is not one named Gisgo.' Hannibal Barcid (or Barca) to Gisgo, a Greek staff officer, Cannae.
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RE: what's wrong with the distribution of general ranks ?
ORIGINAL: Gil R.
But Hill cannot go over Bragg, because 'B' comes before 'H' -- so any container with Hill and Bragg at identical ranks will be commanded by Bragg.
Thanks Gil for the clarification. Does this priority apply even when when the other competing three stars generals are attached to divisions within a corps and a three star (further down alphabet) is shown only in the corps and is the named commander on screen?
Using the beta I have had some examples where a lesser star commander has been named instead of the appropriate army or corps commander in the scouting/terrain option screens before battles. Also instances where a three star has been named instead of the three star commanding but that may be because of the above priority.
In the game I am playing - using default generals- there does seem a mismatch between the permitted level (not the excess starting level) and the number of matching containers. Eg 6 corps commanders start (more arrive), permitted level of 5 and yet only the 4th corps container has been built.
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