AVs in RHSCVO

[John 3rd]

As I look around the Japanese, I find more AVs then before but several of them do not have a Float Plane group assigned to them. Ships Found with this and location:

Kunikawa Maru--Sasebo
Kamoi--Nagoya
Kinagawa Maru--Toyko

I do I have to pay Political Points and transfer LB Float Planes to provide the airgroup?

I hate--but like for the realism--that I do not hardly have ANY A6M2s to upgrade at the start of the campaign. I remember the Japanese were having kittens on having enough for the KB AND Southern Drive.

Also like the changed air group sizes on the smaller CVs. Seems better and like the organic air groups on the CVEs.

Just checking things out. Probably the first of many questions...

[el cid again]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

As I look around the Japanese, I find more AVs then before but several of them do not have a Float Plane group assigned to them. Ships Found with this and location:

Kunikawa Maru--Sasebo
Kamoi--Nagoya
Kinagawa Maru--Toyko

I do I have to pay Political Points and transfer LB Float Planes to provide the airgroup?

I hate--but like for the realism--that I do not hardly have ANY A6M2s to upgrade at the start of the campaign. I remember the Japanese were having kittens on having enough for the KB AND Southern Drive.

Also like the changed air group sizes on the smaller CVs. Seems better and like the organic air groups on the CVEs.

Just checking things out. Probably the first of many questions...

The A6M2 is just coming on stream - and almost all the aircraft are committed to the operational forces. But this aircraft is in serious production (by Japanese standards) and comes up fast. For a long time it will dominate your naval fighters in terms of numbers.

The CVs are not smaller - just defined at their hanger capacity. The Japanese did it this way IRL - and for technical reasons deck parks should not be used in WITP (you do not risk losing any in heavy weather). So we don't use em. But even if we did, Japan would not have any.

Kunikawa should have an air group - and it was wrongly 9999ed out in CVO and BBO family scenarios. It was absent where the ship is not present as an AV in an experimental OB. It is correct in EOS family scenarios.

Kinagawa does not have an air group in CVO and BBO - it literally does not exist. Not sure why? It has one in EOS. EDIT: It appears it should have one - so this is added for x.786

Kamoi was a very old and somewhat experimental AV - and it was in fact an oiler as well (converted back to that role mid war). She also does not have an air group in CVO and BBO - and I am not sure an air group had existed for her for some time? It has one in EOS. Both these ships still function as seaplane and flying boat tenders when at any anchorage or port.

There is considerable controversy about the Japanese CVEs. It is often alleged they had no air groups. Yet it is ALSO claimed they "were ASW carriers with a uniquely unsuccessful record - all were sunk by submarines". We also can show later in the war there were ASW aircraft and ship based air units of both fighter and ASW were formed up by both IJA and IJN. It is certain these ships embarked training elements from air groups on Kyushu in any event. Since the game mechanics won't allow a player to transfer aircraft to a ship (as they really did IRL) - we went this way - so the ships can act as something besides aircraft transports - which all carriers can do. A player who believes these ships never had an air group in a sense that would matter if the enemy came over the horizon should land them - and indeed is free to do so.