Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
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Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Freeboy and myself started a new WAW pbem, this time with V27a which freeboy slightly modded, he nerfed the CAs a bit.
We have played the first couple of turns now, next turn freeboy will start Fall Gelb.
Noteworthy events so far:
- Polish stragglers could occupy Königsberg on turn 2 because Freeboy left it undefended
- I was risking a bit too much with the two royal navy fleets in GB. So with lots of CA Freeboy managed to sink the fleets, losses have been slightly favorable for him, but he had to use the german navy to finish them off, overall iirc he lost about 7 planes and 3 ships.
- RAF sunk lots of german u-boats so far, about 8 in total
- RAF started the air war in March 1940 and shot down 4-5 german fighters losing only 1-2 fighters
We play with a few houserules also:
- No neutral fleet blocking of Japan like e.g. the china strait
- Barbarossa and Pearl harbour may not be delayed much, we will discuss how many turns delay are acceptable when we reach late 1940, but it will be most likely something short like a maximum delay of 2 turns beyond the historic dates.
We have played the first couple of turns now, next turn freeboy will start Fall Gelb.
Noteworthy events so far:
- Polish stragglers could occupy Königsberg on turn 2 because Freeboy left it undefended
- I was risking a bit too much with the two royal navy fleets in GB. So with lots of CA Freeboy managed to sink the fleets, losses have been slightly favorable for him, but he had to use the german navy to finish them off, overall iirc he lost about 7 planes and 3 ships.
- RAF sunk lots of german u-boats so far, about 8 in total
- RAF started the air war in March 1940 and shot down 4-5 german fighters losing only 1-2 fighters
We play with a few houserules also:
- No neutral fleet blocking of Japan like e.g. the china strait
- Barbarossa and Pearl harbour may not be delayed much, we will discuss how many turns delay are acceptable when we reach late 1940, but it will be most likely something short like a maximum delay of 2 turns beyond the historic dates.
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
It's april 1940 now, Fall Gelb has started. The Raf has air supremacy though and reconnaisance spots lots of german bombers in Köln without adequate fighter cover. The Raf doesn't let pass this opportunity and attacks the poor Luftwaffe.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
10 Fighters in Paris start a second wave and shoot down 2 additional german fighters and 4 bombers without losses. The germans also didn't manage to take Lille in 1940, the french garrisions held, though with great losses.
France will fall, but the germans will have to pay a high bloodtoll.
France will fall, but the germans will have to pay a high bloodtoll.
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
yep, I screwed up, notenough pp built up and got a real bitchslpping by xbx
So, Lille falls in May, and I have domanant Panzers, and will roll out 88 aa guns, a special weapon per the unique rules option which will help with those darn fighter 4's ! he of course spent a ton to getto fighter 4. too bad I cannot mount a serious invasion of England now, just strugling to build pp,and overrun france.. I never really worry too much about taking france super quick, as the Red army is still off the map till the fall of Paris I can take some time and limit, ouch, my losses and then get a well trained army to attack the balkins, which in turn jheads east into the Ukrain. sometime in 41
China should also be interesting, I plan on giving xbx some fits there before the us can do anything about it, otr the reds
So, Lille falls in May, and I have domanant Panzers, and will roll out 88 aa guns, a special weapon per the unique rules option which will help with those darn fighter 4's ! he of course spent a ton to getto fighter 4. too bad I cannot mount a serious invasion of England now, just strugling to build pp,and overrun france.. I never really worry too much about taking france super quick, as the Red army is still off the map till the fall of Paris I can take some time and limit, ouch, my losses and then get a well trained army to attack the balkins, which in turn jheads east into the Ukrain. sometime in 41
China should also be interesting, I plan on giving xbx some fits there before the us can do anything about it, otr the reds
"Tanks forward"
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Casualities for the germans to take Lille have been high.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Raf finds remnants of the Luftwaffe in Berlin. Thanks to Tech IV we can even attack them in Berlin. The result could have been better though, we hoped to take down all german planes.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
The situation at the end of my turn. The French declare Paris as fortified city. It should hold out at least one more turn i think. The allies suffered no casualities this turn and destroyed 1 Truck, 1 Artillery, 4 Fighters, 2 submarines and 3 divebombers. Overall a weird situation, the allies are quite strong, but due to the loss of large parts of our navy some months ago they are probably not strong enough to hold france and thus decide the game early.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Freeboy sent the next turn. It's late June 1940 now. Looks like the germans have a rough time in France.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
The replay showed that the germans tried to assault Paris but got repulsed. Quite a bloodbath.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Allied supreme command is investigating the possibility of counterattacking the germans to buy even more time for Paris.
First they exploit their air superiority and the Raf fighters shoot down many helpless german soldiers who find no cover in the plains.

First they exploit their air superiority and the Raf fighters shoot down many helpless german soldiers who find no cover in the plains.

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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Since we have nothing to lose the French counterattack with every available man. It is a bloodbath, but we are successful and the losses even slightly favor the allies.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
A couple of subs are also spotted and most of them are sunk, the royal navy only lost 1 destroyer. Totals for this turn are highly favorable for the allies. Allied forces worth 12800 production points are annilihated during the fierce battles and the Axis lose forces worth 66960 production points.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
This is so ugly, another futile headlong attack against PAris.. and I think my new plan will be to surround it and art shell it and allowit to stand, whill attackingEngland with my new yet unborn airforce lol, I snuck some troops into England.. lets see if he can stop me!
"Tanks forward"
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Here's the new german assault attempt vs. the brave paris defenders Freeboy is speaking of.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
The RAF is unsuccessful this turn. They marginally lose a battle vs. german 88 Flaks en masse because british reconnaisance information was incorrect.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Overall it is an uneventful turn. This time the losses are equal for both sides, but only around 10k production points, so rather minor. Most frontline troops, Axis and Allied, seem exhausted after the tough battles of the last turns.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Thanks for sharing, guys. I do have to say that it looks like Tom needs to ratchet up the PP costs of the tech upgrades, and in a major way. It just seems so wrong to have Fighter IV's and Rifle/SMG III's running about in the middle of 1940. Given that the tech trees have been consolidated into so many fewer branches, the branches really should each be made significantly more expensive than they are now.
Freeboy and I are playing the same mod, with him being the Axis in it, as well. My tech ramping hasn't been as drastic as you've done, but we've just finished turn 9, April 27, 1940, and I've already got my Ships, Fighters, Infantry, and Guns to level II, plus a whole pile of PP's in the bank, waiting to see what needs to be upgraded next.
Freeboy and I are playing the same mod, with him being the Axis in it, as well. My tech ramping hasn't been as drastic as you've done, but we've just finished turn 9, April 27, 1940, and I've already got my Ships, Fighters, Infantry, and Guns to level II, plus a whole pile of PP's in the bank, waiting to see what needs to be upgraded next.
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
I totally agree , also seems that unrealistic to upgrade tanks and planes and ships, light troops I can see being refitted in the fields.. but fighters and bombers ships etc oftenwhere not able with perhaps the exception being the adding of guns and radar to ships.. still it seems that making it cost allot more to go upgrade a unit from one to four would also help here imo
fyi turn sent another suicide attack against the defenders.. I did not want tohose smg threes to get dug in, but his guns ripped me up.. seems I need to forgo paris for awhile
fyi turn sent another suicide attack against the defenders.. I did not want tohose smg threes to get dug in, but his guns ripped me up.. seems I need to forgo paris for awhile
"Tanks forward"
RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
Another bloody turn. Most of the casualities happened in the fierce fighting for paris.


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RE: Waw v27a(with Freeboys CA mod) Freeboy (Axis) vs. Boron (Allies)
During my turn not much action again, RAF softens up some besiegers of Paris who are without air-/flakcover and the french defenders make two sallies. German losses are much higher than the allied losses. But again a rather calm turn. 17700 german production points vs. 300 allied.


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