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dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:14 pm

The game allows me to order the British fleet to patrol in the Baltic from their North Sea bases, but they just move to the North Sea and stay there. Is movement to the Baltic restricted in some undocumented way?

Also, is Wilhelmshaven considered to be a North Sea or Baltic port? It does not show up on the list of landing sites for North Sea amphib movement......

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:49 pm

a) British ships cannot enter the Baltic exept for Uboats.
b) You cannot amphib an enemy port if there are fleet vessels in it. So taking a fleet base by sea is not possible.

dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:24 pm

ORIGINAL: boogada
a) British ships cannot enter the Baltic except for Uboats.
b) You cannot amphib an enemy port if there are fleet vessels in it. So taking a fleet base by sea is not possible.

Good rules, I think. At least the second one. That means that Alexandria is safe as well.

I wonder if the Russians can rebase something to Petrograd to protect it as well?

Sewerlobster · Post by **Sewerlobster** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:32 pm

ORIGINAL: boogada

a) British ships cannot enter the Baltic exept for Uboats.

Are you sure? I believe I have.

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:18 am

I think you could amphib Wilhelmshaven or Alexandria if you destroy the enemy fleet before (during one game I lost almost the entire Entente fleet. The Central powers even sent a corps to India!!). If you have conqered that part of Germany by land, you will already be winning the game anyway.

And I think British ships are restricted from the Baltic as long as the Germans have control about Wilhelmshaven.

SMK-at-work · Post by **SMK-at-work** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:30 am

ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

ORIGINAL: boogada

a) British ships cannot enter the Baltic exept for Uboats.
Are you sure? I believe I have.

Possibly in an earlier version - you certainly should not be able to now.

HannoMeier · Post by **HannoMeier** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:08 pm

What about opposed amphib assaults in general?

For example, in my current game I loaded an english corps on an amphib in the Eastern Med and tried to land on a turkish port (Hi Dan

). But only Scutari, the Serbian port was available.

Constantinople should be out due to fleet based in it or maybe because Gallippoli was still turkish (does this matter?)

Is it possible to have amphib operations in the Eastern Med?

Cheers,
Hanno

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:10 pm

To amphib an enemy port the corps has to be activated. I guess that is what is missing. If it is not activated only friendly ports will show up.

dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:10 pm

ORIGINAL: boogada
To amphib an enemy port the corps has to be activated. I guess that is what is missing. If it is not activated only friendly ports will show up.

I think he has you there, Hanno. On the other hand, if what was written above is correct, then all the Turks need do is station one DD at each port, and they are forever safe from invasion. Someone should perhaps rethink that......

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:43 pm

I think you need at least one cruiser. And Constantinople is the only fleet base. 

SMK-at-work · Post by **SMK-at-work** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:47 am

You can't amphib Constantinople from the med unless you control Gallipoli.  Smyrna is also an option as a target with some food nearby to be seized.

Did you try to do this on T1?

If so then Turkey is still neutral, so shame on you!!

You can't amphib anyone unless you're at war with them!!  Sheesh!![:D]

dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:18 pm

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work
You can't amphib Constantinople from the med unless you control Gallipoli. Smyrna is also an option as a target with some food nearby to be seized.

This is all great information. I just wonder why none of it is in the manual, or even the new revised manual. Same with the supply system. Complete mystery there.

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:57 pm

ORIGINAL: dpstafford
This is all great information. I just wonder why none of it is in the manual, or even the new revised manual. Same with the supply system. Complete mystery there.

Umm yeah the quality of the manual has been mentioned as sub-par multiple times. The support and community on the board is great though.

Toby42 · Post by **Toby42** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:02 pm

I still think that the Naval Rules are too complicated???

SMK-at-work · Post by **SMK-at-work** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:58 pm

What's complicated?

Not well explained is fair comment - but I don't see them as being complicated.

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Thu May 01, 2008 11:28 pm

OK, I think TE ships can now raid the Baltic in 1.23??? I've had cruisers sinking the german transports a couple of times now. 

dpstafford · Post by **dpstafford** » Thu May 01, 2008 11:34 pm

ORIGINAL: boogada
OK, I think TE ships can now raid the Baltic in 1.23??? I've had cruisers sinking the german transports a couple of times now.

Raiders only? Can they Patrol with the big boys?

Lascar · Post by **Lascar** » Fri May 02, 2008 1:24 am

ORIGINAL: boogada

OK, I think TE ships can now raid the Baltic in 1.23??? I've had cruisers sinking the german transports a couple of times now.

Are you referring to Russian ships or British too?

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:53 am

Im playing the CP, but I had British Cruisers taking out my Transports. And I have rebased those Transports to Rostock before. 

boogada · Post by **boogada** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:56 am

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